seeking Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 arguing about this shit is retarded. america is the only first world country without nationalized health care. it's not because we're smarter than everyone else, it's because we're controlled by the insurance industry. if they were about to making a killing off of this, they wouldnt have fought it so hard. this plan wont be perfect, but it'll be a step into the 21st century. about fucking time. and anyone who doesnt think youre already paying for illegals, the uninsured, those with chronic diseases, diabetes, hypertension, etc have no clue how our health care system works. even if you dont have insurance, you're still paying for the care of those that do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@ndomH3ro Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I already have universal health care, its awesome. Thanks government job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getoe Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G_Zxup7esU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Oh there's going to be some tears and tantrums over this shit. Looking forward to all the "OMG, were turning into Soviet Cubans, Obama hates America" and all that top notch shit. I don't know how it compares to the US but I've been super fucking happy to have used Australia's health system when I've been hit by cars, stacked my motorbike, come a cropper, whatever. Well done House of Reps, good luck to you United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50million Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 everyone has to be covered or they get a $650/year fine or jail time. that's not freedom if you ask me...hopefully it will be cheaper this way. not sure how i feel about this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeverBeenBetter Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 The government makes you have car insurance... but somehow people are flipping out about this... Fuck that. Im all over it. Can't wait to be able to go to the doctor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeverBeenBetter Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 the reason our healthcare is the way it is... http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/b46391c0-55d0-45c4-91af-3e8793c1512b bout time we started getting on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHoodieKid Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 hah good luck getting shitty health insurance "here is your band-aids sir we dont think you'll need stitches for this 2inch wound but this should cheer you up hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeverBeenBetter Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I feel like everyone who argues about this shit hasn't been to a different country that has nationalized health care... Mexico has fucking better health care than us. Everyone is retarded but me, im sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 everyone has to be covered or they get a $650/year fine or jail time. So how does one get coverage if they're broke and dealing with pre-existing conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 So how does one get coverage if they're broke and dealing with pre-existing conditions? marry a canadian??:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@ndomH3ro Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 So how does one get coverage if they're broke and dealing with pre-existing conditions? If you are broke the government will provide you with Medicare If you have a job you employer will have to insure you or pay a fine No one can now deny you because of pre-existing conditions That is what I read, I may be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 on paper I think that's right but every case is different, and only time will tell how all this is actually going to be implemented. but for the time being, this is obviously a step in the right direction. anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.H.Caulfield Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 If you are broke the government will provide you with Medicare If you have a job you employer will have to insure you or pay a fine No one can now deny you because of pre-existing conditions That is what I read, I may be wrong I argued about this for about an hour on facebook,before coming across this.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/fact-sheet-the-truth-abou_b_506026.html :( :( :( :( :( :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityonSMASH Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't know how it compares to the US but I've been super fucking happy to have used Australia's health system when I've been hit by cars, stacked my motorbike, come a cropper, whatever. explain what the fuck 'come a cropper means you annoying dipshit. as for the news, Obama doin his thang i see. good shit. it aint all gravy but the positives farrr outway the negatives. maybe its time i went juan valdez on the 49th and rotate south for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 24 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 here i totally googled it for you, you idiot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 So even though I don't have insurance because I haven't been to a hospital since I was about six, this is supposed to be good for me by making me pay for insurance I don't need? Sure, it'll be nice when I get into a car crash and break a couple bones, but until then I'll be paying for not going to the hospital. However, I am pretty happy about the student loan bill included in it. Even though I'm not sure how the two are related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 explain what the fuck 'come a cropper means you annoying dipshit. . Hahaha, some one is in tears because they got negged. :lol: :lol: Classic COS. refer to tango 24's post for an explanation, ya big sook!! I have just experienced the Chinese health care system via my girl. After the rage subsides I might relay how totally fucked up it is. Nutshell; developed world prices for hospital service and conditions an Amazonian fucking tribesman wouldn't envy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 marry a canadian??:confused: TABERNAC! If you are broke the government will provide you with Medicare If you have a job you employer will have to insure you or pay a fine No one can now deny you because of pre-existing conditions That is what I read, I may be wrong I'm probably going to get yelled at for saying this...normally I'm all about smaller government but health care has been treated as a commodity in the US for far too long. However, I'm going to hedge my bets. There's too much money at stake and one can only imagine the deals and promises that were made to get this passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, implementing this without it being shouted down for every bump and wrinkle in the implementing process is going to be harder than getting senate and rep approval in the first place. As per any policy in your average two party system the anti crowd will be picking apart the implementation of this policy and every fucking crack and stutter will be blown up all over the TV with a big red FAIL stamp on it. Sometimes you can have a good and workable policy that needs to be implemented, assessed, reformulated, re-implemented, assessed, reformul....... until the end product is the best result possible. However the opposition won't let it get that far and turn public opinion against it before the cake is cooked. Not saying that this is a good policy, I don't know the details. But it is definitely a top candidate for an early death due to the buzzards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoteller Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 great. does this mean illegals get coverage as well. i dont feel like paying for juan, two, and three; just because their here illegally and cant get insurance you were already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Whats up with the people airing their stupidity out thinking illegals are covered under this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morton Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 30 years ago Reagen told the American people that the road to prosperity was to stop paying for niggers to have babies. Some people bought that line of thinking and now even the poor have latched on, hook, line and sinker. Just another twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Legitimate reason to hate on the obese people. Lard Holocaust cometh. *buys soloflex* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 there are so many misconceptions. it's just sad. i'm glad it finally passed though. i watched insurance companies make decisions about what care my ma was allowed to get for fucking YEARS> then paramedics killed her. our health care blows donkey nuts. something had to change. it still disgusts me that it's a for-crazy-profits-at-any-cost industry, like everything else in this hellhole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Figures... After 33 years of no health care, I finally get it from work this year and this happens. Isn't it ironic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowmagik Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 do you get weird looks when you bring transformer action figures in with you to the waiting room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire15 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I feel like everyone who argues about this shit hasn't been to a different country that has nationalized health care... Mexico has fucking better health care than us. Everyone is retarded but me, im sure of it. When I explained how I had to pay 2000$ out of pocket before my health care was covered by insurance to a dutch friend, she almost fell out of her fucking chair. The only people who on some SOCIALISM ZOMG COMMUNISM shit, are fucking fags that grew up in some cold war brainwash shit where they think Russian people are worse then Satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I haven't been able to afford to go to the doctor since the Transformers came out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortFuse Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 ^^^haahahha. So when do I get my FREE health care, and what does that include? Do I get dental? What's my co-pay going to be? How much will come from my taxes? What about emergency room visits or prescription drugs? How about vision? Old 4 eyes needs to get his nerd back in check. hahaha seriously.. I dont think its going to be that great. I mean the government helps provide health care for its military and one of my friends in the army says hed rather do his own surgery at home then to trust what they provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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