fat ralphy Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 the experimenting with LSD on veterans and civilians is how ken kesey was exposed to it.. he then found out how to make it and boom the sixties hippies etc. personally i have enjoyed lsd and never had any bad trips. but the government testing is only the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R@ndomH3ro Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 On Nov. 28, 1953, Frank Olson, a bland, seemingly innocuous 42-year-old government scientist, plunged to his death from room 1018A in New York’s Statler Hotel, landing on a Seventh Avenue sidewalk just opposite Penn Station. It went very far. He obviously fell.... :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavaruawon Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 haha. I had a feeling that photo would strike somebodies nerve. Glad it got noticed. I'm with the crowd that's saying ' how the fuck did you not know of this already. ' I thought this was all fairly common knowledge. Well cos, you've stumbled upon a fucking heap of interesting shit to read - so study up. IN 1959, KEN Kesey, a graduate student in creative writing at Stanford University, volunteered to take part in a government drug research program at Menlo Park Veterans Hospital that tested a variety of psychoactive drugs such as LSD, which was legal at the time, psilocybin, mescaline, and amphetamine IT-290. Over a period of several weeks, Kesey ingested these hallucinogens and wrote of his drug-induced experiences for government researchers. From this experience, Kesey wrote his most celebrated novel, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, and began his own experimentations with psychedelic drugs. His goal was to break through conformist thought and ultimately forge a reconfiguration of American society. In the early 1960s, Neal Cassady showed up to meet the famous author and became the most celebrated member of Kesey's fledgling group, the Merry Pranksters. Much of the hippie aesthetic that would dawn on the San Francisco scene in the late sixties can be traced back to the Merry Pranksters who openly used psychoactive drugs, wore outrageous attire, performed bizarre acts of street theater, and engaged in peaceful confrontation with not only the laws of conformity, but with the mores of conventionality. As Kesey put it: "What we hoped was that we could stop the coming end of the world." By 1966, when Kesey had been apprehended as a fugitive from the law, he denounced the curative powers of LSD as temporary and delusional, but nothing he said could stop the psychedelic era that was about to explode in San Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavaruawon Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Another thing I'd like to point out about the LSD-25 they were using at the time - shit was no bunk-ass 'triple dipped window pane' type of shit. The CIA got it's liquid from Sandoz Pharmaceuticals and Albert Hoffman shortly after it was first synthesized in a lab. It's the real deal, and next to impossible to find doses that could ever compare to the Sandoz stuff in quality or potency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morton Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 So one problem the government ran into with testing LSD was that only heads would show up for the open tests. To find out how it would effect the more "square" population they set up a brothel for business men. When the john went to the bathroom to wash up before getting busy with the hooker he got dosed. Back in the room with the hooker there were one way mirrors with the FBI etc on the other side to observe the behavior of the now dosed individual. Can you imagine being turned on unknowingly in such a manner. Not cool I would venture to guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 So one problem the government ran into with testing LSD was that only heads would show up for the open tests. To find out how it would effect the more "square" population they set up a brothel for business men. When the john went to the bathroom to wash up before getting busy with the hooker he got dosed. Back in the room with the hooker there were one way mirrors with the FBI etc on the other side to observe the behavior of the now dosed individual. Can you imagine being turned on unknowingly in such a manner. Not cool I would venture to guess. Yep, they also sent spooks to Vegas to go into casino's and dose folks. Fuckers. Back then they also had an idea to dose all of L.A. by polluting their water supply with L. Didn't work because of chlorine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morton Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Never heard the city dose one. Always taking it to the next level casek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityonSMASH Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Imagine if they had of found what they were looking for and they succeeded in finding reprograming truth serums. Shits scary, the worlld was in a far dofferent state back then both in terms of war super powers and the threat of dictaters trying to take over nations at the drop of a dime. This shit could have/woukd have spawned an entirely different existance to the world as we know it today. As inhumane and disturbing as these studies were, apart from the doping of countless unknowing civilians some of these had to happen and had to be determined, so as then we could deem tjem inapropriate. But only, because we then had the answers. Now that iv been reading into all of this there's some other gross shit I came across. The implanting of sub concious insecurities and weaknesses in subjects thru hypnosis. Some really horendous shit all in all. I hope this thread sosnt get moved to other areas of 12oz because weather you knew about it a lot or a little this shit needs to be known front to back top to bottom and not just by conspirasists but by everyone else. I tend to lose intrest in theorys and inconclusive truths to do with such extreme cases and don't go into any other text based threads here to read about them. This is on some shit levels I thought undisclosed, its fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Casek I'm not sure... didn't you say the VA Tech shooter was under CIA mind control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Casek I'm not sure... didn't you say the VA Tech shooter was under CIA mind control? I think I recall saying it was odd that he did such a thing near CIA facilities that specialize in mind control. VA Tech is also a big spook recruiting hub. Stranger things have happened, my friend. This is neat. http://www.audioboneheadphones.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I've never heard of this before (except for the fact that Bulger got LSD tested on him), but it doesn't surprise me...the CIA does some scary ass shit. That said, I'd really like the chance to fight Immortal Technique...what a fucking faggot. Edit: As someone who almost lost my mind during a bad acid trip, I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to just get hit with that shit unknowingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lord_casek Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I believe the link to mind control is his therapist/psychologist. Here's an interesting person to look into COS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I don't know Swamp. I think Immortal Technique has atleast a black belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 The last time someone told me they were a black belt I beat them so bad I fled the state because I thought they might be dead :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityonSMASH Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 Geezus. *edit: @ Lugr/Casek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I don't think you understand, he has a black belt and criticizes the government. Plus anyone wearing army fatigues must know how to kill someone in 5 moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I know what you were saying br0, I was just responding in the correct manner haha. Technique actually filmed a video directly around the corner from one of my old cribs, but I didn't know about it til later on...I wish I could have, at the very least, gone and thrown things at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hahahaha and after he caves your face in he'll add insult to injury with some stunning bars. "And he thought he could be beat me, he's another white oppressor Metaphorically, Educatedly, broke him down like a spaceshipfluxcapacitor." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 The last time someone told me they were a black belt I beat them so bad I fled the state because I thought they might be dead :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I love Bas Rutten haha "OK, I'm sorry, BANG BANG BANG, no I'm not" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I have a Bas vid about barfights. Brutal and funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 DANGITY DANGITY DANG "Okay sir, I'm sorry, I don't want any troub...WOOP And I slit your throat." Guys did you know I can deliver headbutt out of nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavaruawon Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Immortal Technique knows the way of the hundred hand slap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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