Decyferon Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I know it goes against everything DAO ever said but you should lay off the booze, it IS a depressant and to keep on drinking heavily will ultimately negate any effects that anti depressants will offer you, I know you wanna still be able to go out partying and shit but believe me it is booze that makes a manic depressive, I know I have been there, it took me fucking years to realise it but since I have stopped drinking so much I am a much more positive and happy person. It might be working ok now, but that is because you are thinking it is the right thing to do, once you stop taking the pills and still drink heavily you will still get the depressive episodes. But good luck no matter what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T14K Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 im stoked to e one of those people that can drink all night and get 2 hours of sleep and still feel good the next day and go into work and put in a solid 8. like im about to do right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavaruawon Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Agreed decyferon my niggle. I am now EIGHT DAYS SOBER.And I feel like a motherfucking champ! I'm not as depressed this week and I feel things are really looking up. I also quit smoking cigs on January 1st so that's pretty cool too. I haven't had any harsh cravings, mainly, I think because I've been staying really fucking busy. I don't give myself time to think about how badly I'd love a brew and a camel filter. On that note I'm finna smoke a jay-bird (of course I'm still smoking herb every now and again) and take my dog for a run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Also, I just read your comment about how it isn't the drinking because you get depressed during the day, that is exactly how I used to be when I drank a lot, obviously I can only comment for myself, but it may be worth a try knocking the drinking on the head for a bit, just see if it helps, surely that is better than using other drugs to try and combat a problem that could easily be solved another way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Anyone who could get "high" off 1 mg of klonopin would be a lucky man, that's like being trashed off 2 beers I'm not saying 1mg is leaving you "trashed" but you feel different, you feel better...that's a high, no? anyways blah blah blah, just do you how come being depressed is gay, but anti-depressants are so cool? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 ^ I'm taking one in the morning, and then drinking at night per the usual. I think that'll be OK, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineCabinet Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I've heard water cures everything, when I was living and working for National Park Service. To this day I don't sick easily i was being sarcastic :lol: dont eat raw chicken, salmonella can kill but agreed on water being the god of all drinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 If water cured everything I'd be straight, I drink 15-20 bottles a day probably About the only healthy thing I've got goin in my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 However taking just one in the morning and then drinking at night hasn't shown to produce any bad results as of yet, so I'm fairly confident in what I've got going on. Like I said, I haven't felt this calm and levelheaded in a long time So you're going to pull this for 30 days, then see if you can quit cold turkey? Watch out man, you might find yourself addicted to this shit, then when you stop fall right back into the same pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 If water cured everything I'd be straight, I drink 15-20 bottles a day probably About the only healthy thing I've got goin in my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 So you're going to pull this for 30 days, then see if you can quit cold turkey? Watch out man, you might find yourself addicted to this shit, then when you stop fall right back into the same pattern. As much as I'll admit I have an addictive personality, there is one good thing about it...I know very much what I like and what I don't like. I've tried plenty of drugs, and anything that wasn't an upper hasn't really ever appealed to me at all, and thus I couldn't even come close to being addicted. I'm taking these for 30 days and then won't be touching them again, that's an absolute guarantee. If after the 30 I start to feel badly again, then it might be time to actually see a doctor and try for something more longterm Edit: As for water intoxication, doubt it haha. Although when I was on house arrest and used to have to piss with someone in the room I would hafta drink insane amounts for hours (shy bladder and all), and that used to definitely make me feel sick as a dog after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 i have been prescribed benzos for many years now. i have really bad anxiety. alright, - If you take them in the morning, they only last for about 6 hours. - What you need to remember though, is that benzos can also be used as a sleeping aid (as my doctor has told me and from experience). It's going to be rough taking one of those and going to work, especially if you are not very tolerant to them. You'll probably be very sluggish by the end of the day. I would take one in the morning on a Saturday and Sunday just to try it out and see how you act and feel. Everyone reacts to medication differently. On that note, you will be fine drinking at night in my opinion. I wouldn't drink as much. But, like I said, everyone reacts to medication differently. good luck, i hope things turn around for you. benzos have helped me a lot at times. it's something to take when you need them.. not something you take every morning in my experience, but we are using them for two different reasons. alcohol is a stimulant, if anything i would try to cut it back.. it can only do good, not bad. *fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpuddles Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 i totally disagree with your 30 day plan (i am a mother after all....) but there is def no stopping you. but if this doesn't work out please promise you won't try to get on full time depression meds and still drink. those things are usually time released and you will never feel right. believe me, me and mine have been through that shit. i know my womanly advice isn't that helpful but at least pay this a little heed. **hey!! you got my 500th!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 There is, and I have experience with how bad it can be when mixed with alcohol. However taking just one in the morning and then drinking at night hasn't shown to produce any bad results as of yet, so I'm fairly confident in what I've got going on. Like I said, I haven't felt this calm and levelheaded in a long time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Boat decided this was my new theme song today...shit is catchy as fuck haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeedupfromthefeetup Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 klonopins are weaksauce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 For me klonopins are useless. Check this out tho AB. I was locked up and they started giving me prozac. This is the only medication that ive felt improved by. Considering my location and state of affairs at the time there may be something to that. If you have decided to go this route (which isn't necessarily the wrong move) i would suggest taking a low dose of the klonopin and a low does of a SSRI like prozac or zoloft. It will take a month or so for the SSRI to go into effect and its not a drug that you can abuse. I wouldn't recommend too much SSRI. Sexual side effects but 20mg of Prozac you probably wouldn't notice it.. And if your genuinely trying to get your depression and anxiety under control i would suggest slowly cutting the benzos out once the SSRI begins to take over. The benzo is good for the transition but after that its just another drug. I went into jail with a 20-30 mg of xanax a day habit. This isn't some shit you want to detox off either. I seriously felt like flushing myself down the toilet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 talk about self medication. I took eight 10/325 norcos and i'm drinking beer. Chewed them all at the same time and I can barely feel them. Shits annoying. I take some opiate pain killers maybe 3 or 4 times a month. Its not like i abuse the shit. You would think 80mg of hydrocodone i would be fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vharkano Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I blew all my money last night on drugs and alcohol and nearly got crushed by Method Man. I blame this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 [/url] Boat decided this was my new theme song today...shit is catchy as fuck haha I hope you're kidding. That sounds like something that would be playing in Boy George's bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Not my usual steez, but I enjoy it haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord help me Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't think he's totally opposed to making some changes in his lifestyle, but it's gonna have to be his call. He can only beat himself up for so long before he decides that it's a sucker's game...another factor is that he's selfish, so hopefully he'll sort it out before it gets sorted out for him. I just got freaked out because I know a couple people who went out this way and it was a total waste. If I had known what was going on with them all the way down the line, I could have at least tried to slap some sense into them but they played the "dude, I'm getting my shit together, I'm not doing hard dope anymore...see, my pills are prescribed, I'm legit!" card really well, and when you see someone doing good after doing bad for so long you want to believe them...those aren't odds I want to play anymore. All I can say is this. I know at least a couple of his friends are probably going to read this thread, and I want them to at least try to talk some sense into him and let them know that they care. No one is invincible...even if they keep beating the house, eventually they're gonna crap out and that's something you really don't want to have to live with. this guy always has good advice...i like it. for somebody that really isnt into AA ;) ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul vice Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't understand how taking klonopin every day for the next 30 days is going to help you in the long run, but I'm no doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wags Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 *fixed[/size] uhh i am pretty sure alcohol is a depressant. look it up. :) nice one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't understand how taking klonopin every day for the next 30 days is going to help you in the long run, but I'm no doctor. As I said, its supposed to be effective for short term management of manic depression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 uhh i am pretty sure alcohol is a depressant. look it up. :) nice one though! Every third grader knows its a fucking stimulant. I asked my boys and we all feel pumped after drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultram666 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Anyone who thinks prolonged hard drug use is cool should attend a Narcotics Anonymous meeting in the deep south.. You'll think before snorting that next rail. A different breed of drug-fiend exists down here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser miyagi Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 "In 1993 Dr. Grob directed the Hoasca Project, the first in-depth study of the physical and psychological effects of ayahuasca on humans. He and his team went to Brazil, where the plant mixture can be taken legally, to study members of a church, the União do Vegetal (UDV), who use ayahuasca as a sacrament, and compared them to a control group that had never ingested the substance. The studies found that all the ayahuasca-using UDV members had experienced remission without recurrence of their addictions, depression, or anxiety disorders. Unlike most common anti-depressants, which Grob says can create such high levels of serotonin that cells may actually compensate by losing many of their serotonin receptors, the Hoasca Project showed that ayahuasca strongly enhances the body’s ability to absorb the serotonin that’s naturally there [4]. 'Ayahuasca is perhaps a far more sophisticated and effective way to treat depression than SSRIs [antidepressant drugs]," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca a good friend of mine did that course in the jungles of peru. came back to australia o'd and died 6 months later at 21. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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