GnomeToys Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The civilians are lucky, we just shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Good band but not very enlightened politically. You need to present solutions to the problems, they just yelled a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Someone needed(s) to do the yelling to get shit rolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoes Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Did Shai just put the dis in Dystopia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I don't hate them, but most of their songs are about how fucked up the world is. That was cool when I was 22, but after a while it wears on you. Lately I've been listening to Billy Bragg and The Ex when I want to hear political stuff. It's not like they answer the hard questions but they don't beat you over the head with gloom and doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suber Giraffe Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 It is...anyone who thinks torturing Al Qaeda is a bad idea is a moron THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 What, are you just gonna keep repeating yourself? HOO-RAH. If you're that psyched, put your money where your mouth is and join the army. I'm quite sure you can volunteer to pull a prison detail in Iraq or Afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 9/11 was far from the worst crime against humanity ever. I laugh at how defensive/patriotic people get about it like it's their god given right to do whatever they want to the people involved. Hiroshima anyone? 120000/140000 dead. Who said 9/11 was the worst? And I think The Holocaust was a greater crime than Hiroshima. And the firebombings of Tokyo killed more than Hiroshima. Just didn't get as much notice since it was "conventional" bombing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeHits RS Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I cared about something once I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KITTENS Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well that's because your an idiot. Wait till dudes have you tied down to the table. See who cares about what than. Torture isn't acceptable on anybody. "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." ~ Thomas Paine. You are also fueling the fire. Creating the image that Islamic extremists paint as the enemy to the people they recruit. CORRECT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Stalin's 30 million slaying of the Gulag prisoners. Trumped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Stalin killed more people than Hitler but they were Russian so nobody cared. It's kind of like if Hitler had killed 6 million Irish people they probably would have just kept drinking and ignored it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hundreds of thousands of civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined as a direct result of US intervention. Something that no one's mentioned yet is that these missions were intended to be promote peace, freedom and security. Torturing people, locking them up incommunicado, destroying their infrastructure and levying embargoes against them do nothing to achieve those goals...in fact, if I had to pick the easiest way to radicalize people, I'd probably just go by the US playbook in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 We are paving the way for democratic progress shithead. Don't you watch the news? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 LULZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperface Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 If you asked everyone in Iraq right now if they wanted the US involved in the rebuilding of their country, the answer would be a resounding NO. After all, we can't even get basic shit (like elections, transportation or the economy) right here, so why the hell is the US even getting involved in the affairs of a sovereign country? And oil doesn't count, that shit can sit there forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Paint The World White. White Man's Burden. Get with the program. Now what we really need is internal change. Change we can believe in. More. White. Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Just to be clear, I don't think torture is an effective means of gathering information...it's been proven it isn't I just couldn't care less if Osama Asalamalakim gets tortured. As far as I'm concerned when it comes to Al Qaeda and other such Islamic extremists anything is fair game...fuck em all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperface Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/investigation-confirms-secret-prison/story?id=9209929 The link has a few pictures Apparently there were similar sites in Romania and Poland too. This place opened up the same month that Bush got Lithuania into the UN. You mean NATO (2004). They joined UN in 1991. 9 months earlier that year Russian troops were shooting and driving people over with tanks in Vilnius. There's also a huge TORTURE MUSEUM in the center of the city. The building was used both by the NAZIS and the KGB during their prime. That's pretty much all I know about Lithuania. But yeah, I think it shows very discreet consideration from CIA's part to do their torturin' --of whoever the fuck they detain and suspect-- in a slightly more secluded location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Christians Infiltrating Anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I don't know about the rest of you, but I fail to feel any outrage about members of Al Qaeda being tortured ...Here's the thing. I think Dave Barry (Miami Herald) said it the best. He wrote this article the day after 9/11. I encourage you to read it, it's pretty good. I clipped an excerpt of the section that's relevant to your statement. The people who did this to us are monsters; the people who cheered them have hate-sickened minds. One reason they can cheer is that they know we would never do to them what their heroes did to us, even though we could, a thousand times worse. They know that when we hunt down the monsters, we will try hard not to harm the innocent. Those are the handcuffs we willingly wear, because for all our flaws, we are a decent people.... Some day, our country will track down the rest of the monsters behind this, and make them pay, and I suppose that will make most of us feel a little better. But revenge and hatred won't be why we'll go on. We'll go on because we know this is a good country, a country worth keeping. Those who would destroy it only make us see more clearly how precious it is. Full article here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 USA USA USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rail junkie Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 You could run a story in the New York Times tomorrow about how alien vampire niggers were behind WTC, JFK and the baseball steroid scandal....if it ran next to an full page ad for $150 Wii systems, which one do you think people would notice? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLU Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 RAINBOW FLAG PEOPLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindle Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 this thread is good. it's like an IQ test no shit, i felt dumber by post 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire15 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Whoa whoa whoaaaa! Who the fuck said anyone cares about fake info and shit? I hope they tortures these motherfuckers just for the sake of torturing them. Fuck a nigga named Al Qaeda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLU Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 as long as they don't torture human beings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 ^ Ding ding ding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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