lord_casek Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 http://911.wikileaks.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 7:05:57 AM Please don't leave the building. One of the towers just collapsed! PLease, please be careful. Repeat, 8:51:31 AM Andrew.Terzakis@pentagon.af.mil|Please call Pentagon Weather|UNCLASSIFIED Please call Pentagon Weather.......reference 1030 Meeting.....703-695-0406 ANDREW J. TERZAKIS, Lt 8:53:44 AM "NYPD Ops Div" <|1 PCT WORLD TRADE CENTER|--- 1 PCT - WORLD TRADE CENTER - POSSIBLE EXPLOSION WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING. LEVEL 3 MOBILIZATION TO CHURCH AND VESSY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 2001-09-11 09:21:44 Skytel [005414004] B ALPHA US bombers are in the air in-route to Clasified targets waiting for strike orders. 2001-09-11 09:21:46 Skytel [005414004] B ALPHA (62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007519187] A ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007513810] A ALPHA y-alerts@yahoo-inc.com|| Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007519558] B ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007521091] A ALPHA || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007518930] A ALPHA y-alerts@yahoo-inc.com|| Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:41 Skytel [007519309] D ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:42 Metrocall [1708879] D ALPHA MSG: Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:42 Skytel [007518957] D ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:43 Skytel [007520096] A ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. 2001-09-11 15:39:43 Skytel [007524714] C ALPHA Y! || Fourth explosion at World Trade Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisetuxedo Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 this is a little creepy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Im reading these and looked at the site. But what am I really seeing. Hmmm A forth explonion at the WTC on sept 11, 01 at 3:41 pm. Not surprising, concidering the fact of what was happening to the buildings structurally. Now im just saying this. >>>-----> Im not 100% buying into the conspiracy theories. But i would not be surprised if history unfolds the facts that it was some fucked out conspiracy of a internal political nature. As for the post were it states Alpha US Bomber in route to a clasified target at 9:21 AM that same day. That target could be anywhere on the glode. If your attemtping to show that a US bomber dropped bombs on the WTC as some point, on that day. Its already shown that it didnt happen. As the US bomber mentioned was in the air and heading for a target many hours before 3:41 PM. PLease clear up what you showing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Yea I have to admit I read through some of the stuff but didn't know what I was looking for, just lots of mundane messages and numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 As for the post were it states Alpha US Bomber in route to a clasified target at 9:21 AM that same day. That target could be anywhere on the glode. If your attemtping to show that a US bomber dropped bombs on the WTC as some point, on that day. Its already shown that it didnt happen. As the US bomber mentioned was in the air and heading for a target many hours before 3:41 PM. PLease clear up what you showing us. Not trying to show you anything other than the pages that were sent that day. I just found some of them odd. No way did anyone drop bombs on the WTC's. That is beyond foolish to think so. Planting bombs, on the other hand, may not be so foolish. BTW: plans were on Bush's desk to attack Afghanistan right before 9/11. Literally. Twilight zone anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonsOfSulkendastron Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 the pentagon is what bothers me. the whole "Loose Change" segment on that was rather disturbing... look that up if you havnt seen it casek, then: could the cruise missle that hit the pentagon have been released by the bombers in the pager messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainframe Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 the pentagon is what bothers me. the whole "Loose Change" segment on that was rather disturbing... look that up if you havnt seen it casek, then: could the cruise missle that hit the pentagon have been released by the bombers in the pager messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 the pentagon is what bothers me. the whole "Loose Change" segment on that was rather disturbing... look that up if you havnt seen it casek, then: could the cruise missle that hit the pentagon have been released by the bombers in the pager messages? http://12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108435 I should be asleep. The pentagon bothers me, as well. Lots of things about that day bother me. Lots of questions I have. As for the bombers, no. Probably on their way to Afghanistan. My thinking is that what hit the pentagon was a Global Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindvapors Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 CNN.com tells me the Pentagon was hit by a plane at 9:43am. But i'm seeing reports of smoke and fire and early as 9:39. 2001-09-11 09:39:55 Skytel [004209088] A ALPHA linda.collings@verizon.com||Explosion at Pentagon too. It is being evacuated. (96 http://911.wikileaks.org/files/messages_2001_09_11-09_35_2001_09_11-09_39.html Also, the number in brackets seems to be unique to the sender. And messages are broken up. See here: 2001-09-11 09:21:44 Skytel [005414004] B ALPHA US bombers are in the air in-route to 2001-09-11 09:21:46 Skytel [005414004] B ALPHA Clasified targets waiting for strike orders. (62 http://bit.ly/4I2Lqw 2001-09-11 09:42:59 Skytel [005414004] B ALPHA White House is being evacuated. Surface to Air Missiles are being deployed in the Wash. Area. (64 http://bit.ly/7pmxjd Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameaintbic Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 that whole day is full of sketchy...just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 How about we all stop writing "just sayin". It's cliche and all it does is indicate that you cannot explain what you're just written. Yes the US admin and a number of other admins (including Iran) were discussing going in to Afghan well before the towers were hit. Yes the PNAC were saying dumb shit like the US needed another Pearl Harbour to force it to act like it should. I would suggest the smarter people are looking at possible blockages to intelligence flows rather than the placement of explosives, remote control planes and far fetched stuff like that. You guys all seem to credit the intelligence services and other organisations with far more cunning and capability than they deserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindvapors Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 That's exactly why i said "just sayin". Because i found what i found peculiar, but don't have anything else to say about it. Just presenting it to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 How about we all stop writing "just sayin". It's cliche and all it does is indicate that you cannot explain what you're just written. Yes the US admin and a number of other admins (including Iran) were discussing going in to Afghan well before the towers were hit. Yes the PNAC were saying dumb shit like the US needed another Pearl Harbour to force it to act like it should. I would suggest the smarter people are looking at possible blockages to intelligence flows rather than the placement of explosives, remote control planes and far fetched stuff like that. You guys all seem to credit the intelligence services and other organisations with far more cunning and capability than they deserve. I'm looking at all of it, at this point. I don't credit intel agencies with anything. If it was an op, it was very compartmentalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 There is no way possible that an op of such magnitude and consequence could be compartmentalised and remain compartmentalised. There are a mountain of much less risky ways to achieve the outcome that we have now, look at Iraq and Kuwait pre-1991. Simple, hand rope, place around neck, watch them jump, run in and kick the shit out of the body afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 There is no way possible that an op of such magnitude and consequence could be compartmentalised and remain compartmentalised. There are a mountain of much less risky ways to achieve the outcome that we have now, look at Iraq and Kuwait pre-1991. Simple, hand rope, place around neck, watch them jump, run in and kick the shit out of the body afterwards. Thing is, it hasn't remained compartmentalized. Sybel Edmunds, etc. Also, there is blowback. That is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Edmunds claimed that there was knowledge of OBL planning something and that operatives were in country. As far as I'm aware Edmunds never made any claims of an inside op. My argument still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Edmunds claimed that there was knowledge of OBL planning something and that operatives were in country. As far as I'm aware Edmunds never made any claims of an inside op. My argument still stands. She recently broke her gag order and said that she was translating intercepts of CIA and Al Qaeda communications. Also that the CIA was working with OBL up until the day of 9/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I haven't seen anything to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Right, read the transcript and I know what is being discussed. It's actually concerning destabilisation in western China, which really is no secret. The Uighurs under Hizbul Islam Li-Turkistan, ETIM, TIP, IMU, etc., were being trained in various camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan and being moved back in to CA and Xinjiang to destabilise the regimes. It was the US looking at containing Russia and keeping China occupied. To say that there were intimate relations with OBL sounds a little far fetched, considering he had bombed the Embassies in KEnya and Nairobi at that point. To buy that there would have to be pretty solid evidence, until now that has not been provided. That doesn't say that it doesn't exist but it cannot simply be assumed that it does. However there is little doubt that the US has been using jihadists for years, the recent attempted uprising in Uzbekistan is an example of how Islamists are still being used by the US. No secrets there. and it also does not indicate that there was any connection with Sept.11. Maybe event he opposite being that contacts with the militants in the region ceased post Sept.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Also, not meaning to say that the training was totally the US's doing either, that movement was already there and the US had an interest in shaping it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 Right, read the transcript and I know what is being discussed. It's actually concerning destabilisation in western China, which really is no secret. The Uighurs under Hizbul Islam Li-Turkistan, ETIM, TIP, IMU, etc., were being trained in various camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan and being moved back in to CA and Xinjiang to destabilise the regimes. It was the US looking at containing Russia and keeping China occupied. To say that there were intimate relations with OBL sounds a little far fetched, considering he had bombed the Embassies in KEnya and Nairobi at that point. To buy that there would have to be pretty solid evidence, until now that has not been provided. That doesn't say that it doesn't exist but it cannot simply be assumed that it does. However there is little doubt that the US has been using jihadists for years, the recent attempted uprising in Uzbekistan is an example of how Islamists are still being used by the US. No secrets there. and it also does not indicate that there was any connection with Sept.11. Maybe event he opposite being that contacts with the militants in the region ceased post Sept.11 Check OBL's page on the FBI.gov He's not wanted for September 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 So what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 He supposedly planned and financed September 11th. Why would they not include those charges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I think 'supposedly' is the key word there, they don't actually know it was him and threrefore have left it off the list, just thinking outloud really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2009 Author Share Posted November 27, 2009 I think 'supposedly' is the key word there, they don't actually know it was him and threrefore have left it off the list, just thinking outloud really. I saw Mueller (former director of the FBI) publicly state that they have no evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Does it really matter though? It really is irrelevant where his name is listed. If at all possible he will be killed, as publicly as possible. I actually have a guy who tends to know stuff who continually tells me that he is already dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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