Zeek-ATL Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Back to what I said before, a massive catastrophe isn't necessary. Even if the universe continues expanding, eventually there will be a form of heat death where matter is so spread out that there are no molecular interactions occurring to increase temperature and everything will wind up being absolute zero. This is a slow process that wouldn't happen until so long after our own sun burned out that it's barely worth mentioning, because the chances of our race surviving that long are extremely small. ok lol so back on topic. wheres the proof that theirs a god? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I was using the lack of infinity as proof that there isn't, as infinity in terms of size and time is a religious concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 just take it one sentence at a time .... let it marinate. you'll understand if you take it slowly ... lolwut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 ok lol so back on topic. wheres the proof that theirs a god? here's what we came up with i think so far: 1. ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT THE EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE! 2. you truly are alone out there and will die and turn to worm food 3. god is a vindictive malevolent being, hell bent on fucking you over 4. god does exist because I got laid on jesus's birthday (newest addition) pick from one of those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatsss Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I have a mind. I'm not brainwashed. If you know shit about culture much less science you know that religion is man made. Fucking idiots. Get off your knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organic Therapy Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I bet you listen to whitechapel and black swedish metal, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 4. god does exist because I got laid on jesus's birthday (newest addition) THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek-ATL Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 i pick 2 and 3 and i guess i can go with 4.. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dark horse Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 lolwut you got something you want me to break down for you my man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatsss Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I bet you listen to whitechapel and black swedish metal, right? Haha No. I hate hipster stuff. My friend plays drums in WC though.... I'm a normal person. I just have a mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Joker Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I personally believe there is a god I mean think about it if there wasn't where did we come into all this why do we have the feeling of love , sadness ,Happyness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Jesus christ... Do people even read threads before they comment? That's the beauty of this format, a cataloged series of thoughts with a continuous theme amongst them. Please, please, please people; read the thread before you post. The_Joker- the very questions you are asking have been responded to in the nine previous pages to your post. Read them. If you have further questions or opinions, please do post. I'm not tryin to put you on blast, but I find this to be one of the major reasons that threads in this section of the forum have "an expiration date" on them. People just post their thoughts without looking into what has been said before, and then questions start getting re-hashed, and things just become redundant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Jesus christ... Do people even read threads before they comment? That's the beauty of this format, a cataloged series of thoughts with a continuous theme amongst them. Please, please, please people; read the thread before you post. The_Joker- the very questions you are asking have been responded to in the nine previous pages to your post. Read them. If you have further questions or opinions, please do post. I'm not tryin to put you on blast, but I find this to be one of the major reasons that threads in this section of the forum have "an expiration date" on them. People just post their thoughts without looking into what has been said before, and then questions start getting re-hashed, and things just become redundant. Training to become a school marm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Naw, it's just annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted January 3, 2010 Author Share Posted January 3, 2010 it is the fatal flaw of crossfire. tldr. and that fool joker is a troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Haha No. I hate hipster stuff. My friend plays drums in WC though.... I'm a normal person. I just have a mind. not trying to derail the the thread but how is white chapel or swedish metal 'hipster'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted January 3, 2010 Author Share Posted January 3, 2010 fuck that bubblegum bullshit i listen to bands like SKULL FUCK and MURDER RAPE. we drink LIGHT BEER in the forest near CHUCK E CHEESE and rock our fucking faces off. fuckin hipsters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatsss Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 not trying to derail the the thread but how is white chapel or swedish metal 'hipster'? Haha well I'm into a alot of black metal. Not deathcore and stuff thats cool at the moment. Its the same difference as in if a kid says all the bands on the warped tour are hardcore bands. He/she thinks their hardcore bands because they scream and have breakdowns. When in reality hardcore is a massive sub culture just like graffiti. Its not out in the open. Its modern day punk. Nah mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 yeah i do, but i still don't understand how whitechapel or metal from sweden can immediately be called hipster. but w/e. this is not the thread or the channel for this. does anyone here read into the philosophies presented in normal American fiction? ie the thoughts of steinbeck or mccarthy or hemingway on god? i really enjoy piecing together, or trying to, those authors ideas by the ideas of their characters. cormac mccarthy especially. i really want to have drinks with him someday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPMS556 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 oh, my bad ,,,, wrong forum topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 real talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 does anyone here read into the philosophies presented in normal American fiction? ie the thoughts of steinbeck or mccarthy or hemingway on god? i really enjoy piecing together, or trying to, those authors ideas by the ideas of their characters. cormac mccarthy especially. i really want to have drinks with him someday. Of course I do, but I would point out that you missed other early/mid 20th century landmark writers such as Faulkner, Fitzgerald, and 'Tennessee'... and I'll challenge you to look into 'modern' writers like Tom McGuane and Jim Harrison. I think I've made it pretty clear in the past, however, that the be all end all for me is Douglas Adams. He's the most absurdly correct IMHO. Seroiously though, check out 'The Sporting Club' by McG and 'A Good Day to Die' by Harrison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 *almost forgot to prop Mark Twain's "Letters From the Earth", C.S. Lewis 'The Screwtape Letters" and everything by Vonnegut. **Yes I get the irony in my inclusion of Lewis but ignorance is no excuse and knowledge is power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 my list was in no way meant to be complete. i will look into mcguane and harrison. i think very highly of cs lewis; one doesn't have to agree with what he reads to appreciate the artistry of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushu Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I skimmed through most of this thread and believe that a part of David Foster Wallace's commencement speech to Kenyon College '05 best addresses "the best reason to believe that there is a God" as opposed to good proof for why god exists. "Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God or spiritual-type thing to worship -- be it J.C. or Allah, be it Yahweh or the Wiccan mother-goddess or the Four Noble Truths or some infrangible set of ethical principles -- is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things -- if they are where you tap real meaning in life -- then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you. On one level, we all know this stuff already -- it's been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, bromides, epigrams, parables: the skeleton of every great story. The trick is keeping the truth up-front in daily consciousness. Worship power -- you will feel weak and afraid, and you will need ever more power over others to keep the fear at bay. Worship your intellect, being seen as smart -- you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. And so on." - David Foster Wallace. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178211966454607.html However, Wallace didn't literally advise the graduating class to become religious and what he said can be taken many ways. One significance in what he said was how he saw religion, vanity, power, and intellectualism, (I would have added art) as servants to the same purpose - survival. So, assuming that you're haven't yet discovered life's absurdity, the best reason to believe in God, or anything, is because it is convenient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 i disagree with his use of the word worship from the start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 So, assuming that you're haven't yet discovered life's absurdity, the best reason to believe in God, or anything, is because it is convenient. how convenient. you summed up 10 pages in one quote. kudos. i see you're new. what are the chances you googled this question only to show up here to answer? would be cooler than if you were lurking brick slayers and had a moment of clarity. either way I'm intrigued. thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre T. Strongbody Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The older i get the more i come to realize everything is subjective, and most everything separated by 6 degrees. Saying there is no god is the same as saying there is a god. Segan said it well “If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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