12 dead, 31 hurt in attacks at Fort Hood

[kaiser miyagi]

You asked what wars we had won since 1945.

You just admitted that we won those wars while trying to somehow explain how they didn't count.

You fail.

 

ummmm, no. gulf war 1. you kept dropping bombs on iraq for years. the action there has been non-stop since '91. if combat hasn't ended how can a winner be declared?

 

korea. the north is still a threat. 2 navy ships fired on each other the other day. the war has never officially been declared over. how can a winner be declared?

 

you want victory? do shit old skool. get a train carriage in paris and have your defeated enemy sign a contract which stipulates non-conditional surrender and the monthly repayment plan.:p

[TheoHuxtable..]

ummmm, no. gulf war 1. you kept dropping bombs on iraq for years. the action there has been non-stop since '91. if combat hasn't ended how can a winner be declared?

 

korea. the north is still a threat. 2 navy ships fired on each other the other day. the war has never officially been declared over. how can a winner be declared?

 

you want victory? do shit old skool. get a train carriage in paris and have your defeated enemy sign a contract which stipulates non-conditional surrender and the monthly repayment plan.:p

 

Operation Desert Storm was a victory (1991). The bombing from '91 - '03 was an enforcement of the no-fly zone. Two different operations.

 

Korea -- the North is still a threat yes but what's your point? The North certainly didn't win.

 

Wars aren't fought the same way since WWII. There aren't "front lines" and many times the enemy can't/won't have a conventional surrender. You think the Taliban or Al Qaeda would fight a fair war and surrender in Paris? The way to win these days is to completely eliminate them or damage them badly enough where they aren't of much effect.

 

Secondly, I guess you'd consider the US the victor over North Vietnam, since the US bombed them to the negotiating table and made them sign a peace treaty in Paris in 1972.

 

And if you're going to apply that rule, then you're also saying the US has never lost a war either since the US has never gone to Paris or anywhere to sign any contract of "surrender".

[TheoHuxtable..]

Apparently it was another cop who brought him down after Munley got shot up.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts980

 

I wonder why they were giving her all the credit

[abcs]

that dude is cooked.

if you are gonna do some fucked up shit like that you

deserve whats coming to you but should have the foresight

to know that there is no way out. No escape and you

might as well swallow a bullet. Your future hold little

more than public hatred, incarceration, and the eventual

execution

[kaiser miyagi]

Operation Desert Storm was a victory (1991). The bombing from '91 - '03 was an enforcement of the no-fly zone. Two different operations.

 

Korea -- the North is still a threat yes but what's your point? The North certainly didn't win.

 

Wars aren't fought the same way since WWII. There aren't "front lines" and many times the enemy can't/won't have a conventional surrender. You think the Taliban or Al Qaeda would fight a fair war and surrender in Paris? The way to win these days is to completely eliminate them or damage them badly enough where they aren't of much effect.

 

Secondly, I guess you'd consider the US the victor over North Vietnam, since the US bombed them to the negotiating table and made them sign a peace treaty in Paris in 1972.

 

And if you're going to apply that rule, then you're also saying the US has never lost a war either since the US has never gone to Paris or anywhere to sign any contract of "surrender".

 

calm down champ, it was clearly tongue in cheek.:p

 

though you're right war is fought differently these days. often the line between victor and vanquished isn't so clear.:miamivice: