honest tea Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 http://infosthetics.com/archives/ceasefire2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 What an awesome thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest tea Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 does anyone know anything about this ? like why isreal america and britain are appose to this peace? this discussion could save the world in a sense the sooner is everyone is open about this the sooner a solution can be openly talked about idk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephect Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 because of... jews.. and the belief that they arent toys. at graffiti. so they make movies like war 4. and shit on themselves when they sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest tea Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 yea i mean there are some dope jews too but those isrealies need to have more compassion so does america too tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and... Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 threadfail. but the united states has no real interest in peace overseas. the american "empire" thrives off of our global military control. we are able to establish our presence overseas by providing "democracy", foreign aid, ect. our military might stretches the globe, and outer space. plus, where would we spend the trillions of dollars a year if not on the military? surely not here at home, helping the people? right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastZeetec302 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Because the US and Britain make a lot of money from selling weapons and fighter jets and such items, peace is not in the financial interest of the governments of these countries or the huge multi trillion dollar businesses that manufactur these weapons etc. If there were peace throughout the world, there would be no bogeyman for the government to scare their citizens with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 In 10,000 years has the world ever been peaceful? Is peace even possible? Maybe the smarter countries are the ones with the bigger teeth. Trust is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 you can't have peace unless every single person is completely equal and the human nature of improving things for yourself didn't exist. People strive for things such as power which means that they step on other people, this means peace is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 There isn't too much in nature that makes me confident that competition and conflict isn't the natural way of things either. Maybe we can transcend that, I hope we can. Not exactly holding my breath, though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLU Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughslast Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/nov/17/corruption-index-transparency-international grain of salt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 threadfail. but the united states has no real interest in peace overseas. the american "empire" thrives off of our global military control. we are able to establish our presence overseas by providing "democracy", foreign aid, ect. our military might stretches the globe, and outer space. plus, where would we spend the trillions of dollars a year if not on the military? surely not here at home, helping the people? right? there would probably be less peace in the world without american hegemony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephect Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 us and britain dont hacve weapons markets anymore, they make their money selling cloned meat and sugar candys shaped like roger waters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest tea Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 everyone try to look for humanity in some new places maybe a place you forgot, around when you started doing other things besides feeling introspective toward your excitement for surroundings this place may or may not be hard to find but looking within first always helps because how can we begin to feel confident with all of nature until we are confident in helping and loving it first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Tellurian - thanks for calling me cynical, I am and I enjoy it, gives me a good perspective on the world. The only reason I don't believe that peace can be achieved is because of the hungry nature of most humans. There are haves and have nots and there will always be jealousy or people feeling short changed on their deal, which is the way the world is. I don't believe a return to the 'garden of eden' would ever occur, I personally wouldn't want to live without my creature comforts and technology that we have, I am all for technology and science and progressing mankinds understanding of the universe around us. The only way for us to return to our 'roots' like the garden of eden would be if there was some huge meltdown of society, whether through war or huge natural disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I don't see my position as cynical at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 its a little pessimistic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Tellurian - thanks for calling me cynical, I am and I enjoy it, gives me a good perspective on the world. The only reason I don't believe that peace can be achieved is because of the hungry nature of most humans. There are haves and have nots and there will always be jealousy or people feeling short changed on their deal, which is the way the world is. I don't believe a return to the 'garden of eden' would ever occur, I personally wouldn't want to live without my creature comforts and technology that we have, I am all for technology and science and progressing mankinds understanding of the universe around us. The only way for us to return to our 'roots' like the garden of eden would be if there was some huge meltdown of society, whether through war or huge natural disaster. agreed.but i think people could take steps to make life a little bit easier for each other.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 It's only pessimistic if you see instability as a negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 isnt it tho? im just sayinfg the notion of trust is impossible is pessimistic,even tho there is some truth to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It all comes down to a value judgement in the end and that's subjective. Some people may argue that we have gained a lot via instability, such as medicines, technology, etc. Some may argue that it has kept the population to a manageable level, etc. It's all perspective as to what is positive and negative and that is what we base a view of pessimism and optimism. Some one who subscribes to the above view would call my outlook optimistic. Ah, don't worry about me, I'm just arguing for the sake of it. I don't want war and instability either. I've lead a blessed life and have never been concerned with instability but I still hate seeing poor bastards blown up or starved to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Veins Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I dont buy into Democratic Peace Theory. The only reason it has worked so far is because the only truly democratic countries have stemmed from a good relationship with the United States. As democratic governments emerge in places outside the typical American sphere of influence, well see just as much conflict with those countries as we do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 To argue for DPT first you must define democracy. Don't think we've successfully done that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephect Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 peace is possible thru friendship.. and umm NOT EATING ANIMALS.. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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