herbsyntec Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 an end to wooden railroad ties, more and more computer controlled rail traffic flow, perhaps robot engines and possibly a revival of electric freight service. In another thread in here Kabar said this. In the local yard and some lay-ups and various spots, I have seen a shift towards this. I cannot figure out a pattern. Is anyone on the know on this? Is there a legitimate shift to metal ties? Is it hitting any main lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Never heard of metal ties. Seen some concrete ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.hopeless. Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 i dont see what the problem is with metal ties...can someone explain why this is a big deal..or at least big enough to open a thread about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranx0 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Never heard of metal ties. Seen some concrete ones. X2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 THere are metal ties, but concrete ties are more popular, they are durable and the way they are made is very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranx0 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 "and the way they are made is very interesting." Describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 They rebar int he middle is stretched as tight as they can, then the concrete is poured ontop of them, then the rebar is released, making them extremely strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I havebt seen any metal ties myself. I have seen some newer concrete ties. But thats mostly around new or renovated train & subway stations. I think its only for economics, that they are useing the concrete. Woods not going anywhere any time soon. I have been seeing alot of working being done to the lines around my way. Swaping out old rails and laying new WOOD ties. I Actaully saw a local fr8 workers today laying new wood ties on branch section of a fr8 line. Got any flicks of the metal ties?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Concrete ties and would ties are both being used, as well as metal ties. Concrete ties are being used in yard situations where they new heavier cars such as excess height cars and reefers are being placed. Mainline operations in the powder river basin also use concrete ties. They also have composite railroad ties made of plastics and polymers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 you also run into concrete ties on high speed or highly traveled lines (like the powder river) where such strong infrastructure is necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Yeah, i was gonna include that, but i dont think people care as much as they make out, I think maybe 1 percent or less of freight writers actually care about freights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmyrtlex Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Yeah, i was gonna include that, but i dont think people care as much as they make out, I think maybe 1 percent or less of freight writers actually care about freights yup your right about that and seen them putting down metal ties there really light to only takes 2 people to lift them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Yeah, i was gonna include that, but i dont think people care as much as they make out, I think maybe 1 percent or less of freight writers actually care about freights agreed. and it isn't that surprising... although i've found that the more i know about freights the easier it is to paint them and the more i understand about where my work will travel. i'm not sure why metal ties would be used though, it seems that they would deteriorate faster than wood, be much louder, and generally more of a nuisance. ties from recycled plastic would be great for all parties: MOW wouldn't have to replace ties that often, and plastic could end up somewhere other than a dump where it takes 4000 years to decompose, or however long it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmyrtlex Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 agreed. and it isn't that surprising... although i've found that the more i know about freights the easier it is to paint them and the more i understand about where my work will travel. i'm not sure why metal ties would be used though, it seems that they would deteriorate faster than wood, be much louder, and generally more of a nuisance. ties from recycled plastic would be great for all parties: MOW wouldn't have to replace ties that often, and plastic could end up somewhere other than a dump where it takes 4000 years to decompose, or however long it takes. your right this is the best section on this whole site but people only paint trains cause its the cool thing to do now a days anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 I mean, its good that people dont care, cuz then being more knowledgeable puts us a step ahead of others ya know. But it has its faults too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranx0 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 These look like they are sitting on top of the ground. Seems like they can be quickly moved and reassembled differently if required. I think that was already mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 seen alot of wood and concrete in my area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 They are on the ground, awaiting ballast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpopoff Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 holy fuck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 They are on the ground, awaiting ballast melded in 09, too. and the metal looks untreated. i can't figure out why that would make any sense at all... oh well. learn somethin' new everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Those ties are for a new amtrak storage track at a station they are retrofitting to allow layovers of trains. I couldnt tell you why they are untreated. Probably because its Amtrak. I dont know if its worth mentioning, but because they are hollow, you can stack many many more in the same amount of space as a regular tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dranx0 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Good information on these. I haven't seen any here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloverthetown Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 only bad thing I see with metal ties, imagine areas of the country, like New England, where temperature changes, from balls hot, to freezing temperatures. All metal warps... It just seems ignorant for them to use metal ties, unless it's like a temporary deal, like building a layup in a parking lot for some reason, etc. like pictured above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 THe photo above is a turnout laid on concrete before they install it in the track bed, its by no means "in place" there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnout Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 these are going in a tunnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnout Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 The ties on the brisbane commuter trains are metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 both the above pictures have Pandrol clips. only seen those on temp track in the local yard and at switches, bridges, tunnels, or other atypical way sections. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_fastening_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_tie http://www.flickr.com/photos/38817306@N03/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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