SwampFightOner Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 *this will change in a year or two. The Lakers are already more successful with more wins, a higher winning percentage, more playoff appearances, more Finals appearances, etc etc. The only reason people say the Celtics are better are the titles, most of which were won when everyone in the league was 6'1 and white. I can't wait til next year when the Lakers have the same amount of titles, and Celtics fans might finally shut up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 The Lakers are already more successful with more wins, a higher winning percentage, more playoff appearances, more Finals appearances, etc etc. The only reason people say the Celtics are better are the titles, most of which were won when everyone in the league was 6'1 and white. I can't wait til next year when the Lakers have the same amount of titles, and Celtics fans might finally shut up There's no doubt that the Lakers are by far the most celebrated NBA team nationwide & worldwide, and have been for the past 10+ years. With the largest fan base. Laker games get the highest TV ratings. Even during the slump (2004-2007), one of those years the Lakers not making the playoffs, the Lakers were the most watched. The only thing the Celtics have above the Lakers is that 1 extra title, but like you said fans today aren't gauging that by some titles won long ago in another era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Bucks resigned Salmons, Suns signed Hakim Warrick and resigned Channing Frye, and the Lakers signed Steve Blake. Still waiting to see something really big go down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 If I recall correctly, Steve Blake is a pretty decent point guard. Would be good as a backup. Farmar is probably leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Farmers gone for sure even before this signing. I just hope this doesent affect our chances of signing Shannon knowing blakes gonna get dome o his minutes rather than looking at farmers departure as an opportunity for more playing time. They're asking fish to take a pay cut knowing he wants to stay/ they have to sign fish or LA fans will be pissed. Shannon said he wanted to stay but I'm thinking it might end up like artest/ariza where ariza was like WTF they just signed dude at my position so I guess I'm gone type deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCheadle Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Steve Blake= one of the most underrated guards in the NBA. I know this from NBA fantasy team value /nh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 The Lakers are already more successful with more wins, a higher winning percentage, more playoff appearances, more Finals appearances, etc etc. The only reason people say the Celtics are better are the titles, most of which were won when everyone in the league was 6'1 and white. I can't wait til next year when the Lakers have the same amount of titles, and Celtics fans might finally shut up This will never happen. That fact that The Celtics have won more Championships in less wins makes them a better franchise percentage wise. Or do you need to retake 4rth grade math? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I said a higher winning percentage in the NBA Finals? Word? Need to retake 4th grade reading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Besides, fans today are not doing math in their heads to figure out which team "won more championships in less wins" starting in the 1940's to see whether they like the Lakers or Celtics more. If you look at recent times that are relevant (last decade), the Lakers have 5 championships to the Celtics 1. And the whole Kobe, Shaq, Phil, Hollywood thing, and the history/legacy thing is thrown in there. The Lakers are to basketball what the Cowboys are to football & the Yankees are to baseball & the Red Wings or Maple Leafs are to hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I said a higher winning percentage in the NBA Finals? Word? Need to retake 4th grade reading? Listen asshole, If i wanted to argue with a 13 year old kid about basketball i would go down to the local high school and instigate. CELTICS FINALS WIN PERCENTAGE is .810 LAKERS FINALS WIN PERCENTAGE is .548 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Besides, fans today are not doing math in their heads to figure out which team "won more championships in less wins" starting in the 1940's to see whether they like the Lakers or Celtics more. If you look at recent times that are relevant (last decade), the Lakers have 5 championships to the Celtics 1. And the whole Kobe, Shaq, Phil, Hollywood thing, and the history/legacy thing is thrown in there. The Lakers are to basketball what the Cowboys are to football & the Yankees are to baseball & the Red Wings or Maple Leafs are to hockey. Listen ultra asshole. I am tired of idiots using the Hollywood excuse on why a team nowadays that runs the spot light is a more relevant champion than one of the preceding days. So are you telling me that the Bill Russell era of basketball meant nothing and is old news? An 8 time in 8 year champion means nothing? It was years and years ago but it was still the NBA and has the ripest rivalry of Celtics Lakers finals this sport has ever seen. So because The Lakers lost their first 8 meetings against The Celtics in the finals, our first 8 rings are considered unimportant? Because Jerry west is the logo of the FUCKING NBA TODAY and couldn't beat The Celtics in the finals once in his god damned career, that feeds no fire in to this rivalry? in the Kobe Bryant era of over paid athletes and shitty foul calls, you are telling me that the first 70 some odd years of pure, aggressively played basketball didn't count because the first wave of champions are older than out parents? Only a jealous ass Lakers fan that is desperate at making a glimpse of an excuse why The Lakers are a better franchise would ever dare using excuses like you just did. Take your Hollywood excuses and shrivel in the embarrassment of our 17 rings and higher NBA Finals win percentage you ignorant asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO FANS ROUTE FOR. UNTIL THE LAKERS GET THEIR FINALS WIN PERCENTAGE UP AND CATCH OUR 17 RINGS, YOU CAN BITCH AND MOAN ALL YOU WANT ABOUT HOW BOSTON FANS RUN THEIR MOUTHS AND TALK SHIT. IT IS BECAUSE THE CELTICS AS A FRANCHISE ARE BETTER THAN THE LAKERS, PERIOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM4RT Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 They weren't better this year. You mad. It's so fucking annoying and stupid when "fans" get so worked up about stats and bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 No, its ignorant and cheer leader like when fans DONT know stats and jock great players nuts because they dunk and get talked about a lot on ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Stubborn Lakers fans can't agree with me and refuse to, so don't even try. Just ignore me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Listen ultra asshole. I am tired of idiots using the Hollywood excuse on why a team nowadays that runs the spot light is a more relevant champion than one of the preceding days. So are you telling me that the Bill Russell era of basketball meant nothing and is old news? LOL @ "ultra asshole". You're mad at the truth. I'm telling you the facts. The Lakers have the highest TV ratings of any NBA team and the largest fan base. And Kobe Bryant has the top-selling NBA jersey worldwide. Don't get mad at me -- honestly I couldn't care less if the Lakers were the most celebrated team or least, I'd root for them regardless. And the fact is, these fans (bandwagon or not) are not calculating in their minds statistical mathematics before determining which team to root for. They're not counting championships. If the fans were, then the Celtics would be the most watched team! An 8 time in 8 year champion means nothing? It was years and years ago but it was still the NBA and has the ripest rivalry of Celtics Lakers finals this sport has ever seen. So because The Lakers lost their first 8 meetings against The Celtics in the finals, our first 8 rings are considered unimportant? Because Jerry west is the logo of the FUCKING NBA TODAY and couldn't beat The Celtics in the finals once in his god damned career, that feeds no fire in to this rivalry? Again, I never said any of this was unimportant. I'm talking about fans in general, and why the Lakers are the most fancied team... and that these fans today did not calculate statistics from 40 years ago to figure out whether they should root for the Lakers or not. No one thinks like that, unless you're like that dude from the "Beautiful Mind" movie. in the Kobe Bryant era of over paid athletes and shitty foul calls, you are telling me that the first 70 some odd years of pure, aggressively played basketball didn't count because the first wave of champions are older than out parents? Only a jealous ass Lakers fan that is desperate at making a glimpse of an excuse why The Lakers are a better franchise would ever dare using excuses like you just did. Take your Hollywood excuses and shrivel in the embarrassment of our 17 rings and higher NBA Finals win percentage you ignorant asshole. You're mad as hell. I didn't say the Lakers were a "better franchise", because that is open to opinion. But I did say the Lakers are more celebrated *today* than any other team. And that's based on jersey/memorabilia sales, TV ratings, attendance at opposing arenas, polls I've seen on NBA.com, etc. Again, you're clinging on to those irrelevant stats because you have nothing else to cling on to -- since this years Finals didn't go the way you wanted to. And the Celtics are going to have to go in to a rebuilding process again. They're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 UNTIL THE LAKERS GET THEIR FINALS WIN PERCENTAGE UP Trust me, no one cares about this. I couldn't care less about "percentage of Finals wins in NBA history". The only people that care about it are angry sour grapes Celtics fans like yourself that are upset about the 2010 Finals, and have nothing else to grasp on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Angry Celtics fan is angry :lol: Keep hanging onto that ONE more title as the reason the Celtics are better, that shit must really keep you warm at night huh? The Lakers are a better franchise in every other way possible, and in two years will have more titles too...enjoy it while you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 The celtics got a majority of their rings in th ebill russel eram including against the Lakers. Not taking anything away fromn that i mean that run was amazing. But the Lakers are the most consistently great team in the NBA. I don't have the stat burned into my brain but I think you could count the times the Lakers have missed the playoffs since coming to LA on one hand. The celtics have had some bad spells. Until a few years ago when they picked up Garnett they stunk. Remember the walker/pierce celts? The Lakers have won at least 1 championship almost every decade. As for the future like swamp said the Lakers will get more rings and overtake the celtic lead in championships soon. In couple years when garnett and pierce are old and suck and only have rondo you better get used to 20+ years of rebuilding just like post bird 80's, 90's and most of the 00's. LOL Get mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 By the way, I missed this Listen asshole, If i wanted to argue with a 13 year old kid about basketball i would go down to the local high school and instigate. LOL. I'm a grown ass man that would smack taste out your face, keep that in mind when making cute comments and getting overly UMAD on the interweb. /No internet tough guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Dirk just agreed to a new deal, no surprise there. WHERE ARE THE BIG FUCKING SIGNINGS DAMNIT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 ^More than likely you'll see it with Bosh, Wade, or LeBron. In my opinion Bosh is most likely to leave (90% chance), Wade is about a 80% chance, and LeBron is about a 65% chance... oh yeah, swamp, anyone ever tell you you look like that singer mike posner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEKmySTEEZ*NC* Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 BAHAHA STEVE BLAKE HE MOVES ROCKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silba Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 95-96 bulls=Best ever 72-10, won 87 out f 100 games including playoffs, .878 overall, started the season 41-3! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 oh yeah, swamp, anyone ever tell you you look like that singer mike posner? :lol: I do kinda, but I've never heard of dude before. We were born in the same year too :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYS TBM Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 95-96 bulls=Best ever 72-10, won 87 out f 100 games including playoffs, .878 overall, started the season 41-3! ^^^^^^^^^^ good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolinmasta Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 You'd fucking hate playing in Kobe Bryants team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEYS TBM Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 If lebron leaves the franchise they have built around him to get a ring I have no respect for him what so ever... Jordan didn't neither did Kobe... If he wants to be mentioned in the same league as these guys he has to work with what he's got a make something of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkob Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 If lebron leaves the franchise they have built around him to get a ring I have no respect for him what so ever... Jordan didn't neither did Kobe... If he wants to be mentioned in the same league as these guys he has to work with what he's got a make something of it I couldn't agree with you more. Honestly, i never thought of it like this. I hope The Cavaliers organization uses this in the pitch to keep Lebron in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escoone! Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Lebron James: More Than A Player (10 Minute Cavaliers Presentation To Lebron To Get Him To Stay) "This Is Home. Blood Is Thicker Than Water" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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