JustHereForTheNight Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ACCESS TO PORN Seriously though. When i was a runt you got porn one of three ways... 1) You racked it (Pretty hard to do since we were all small and they were usually on the top racks of the newstands/bookstores/liquor store 2) You got on your bike, rode to the local swap meet and found the booth with the cool old guy who would sell you a dog-eared copy of playboy and tell you "Yo momma gonna whup yo asses when she see whatchoo got! Eeee hee hee hee!" 3) You got someone's older brother to buy a copy for you And now? One click of a button and you have a buffet line of porn to choose from. From traditional sex to eels up japanese asses, there's a world of perversion available to the youth today with just a few clicks of the mouse and keyboard. I mean, stuff that existed only as urban legend on the schoolyard. I think the internet has taken away porns mythical status to youth. i mean, it's so easily available. When someone in our schoolyard gang had a smut mag it was a big fucking deal. like they had ascended mount olympus and came down with the ten commandments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allfreetime Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I spent so much on graff mags in the 90s. I was psyched that I could get free graff pics off from the internet. I recall downloading my first pic from http://www.graffiti.org in 1998. It took over 30 minutes. THis was the pic. I see Joe creeping. *rehosted the pic in case the link got broken. <--- innaweb talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperface Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I think internet has replaced a part of social reality from people. For example graffiti: some of you guys are disappointed of graffiti now that it's online, but I think that is because you can only see pictures of it instead of the phenomenon in real life. New flicks online aren't even as good as new flicks as paper printed photographs, because you don't get into a situation with some fool who will hand you the pics and maybe give some background info about them (thus providing some inkling of the phenomenon I speak of). Then again, internet is very useful, you can learn so much about different cultures , languages and regional/social things that don't make it to every dictionary and book. etc. Anonymity is another really col thing that's thinkworthy in a deeper sense. More alarming is how increasingly many databases, books, registers and dictionaries among with majority of modern photographs exist only in computer formats. Imagine a nuclear bomb, or another device with EMP effect: everything gone. You know how little we know of ancient cultures, and they might've had paper or stone slabs and statues and shit. Most ´existing´ information isn't even accessible without electricity or internet connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA KID MERO Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 THE SHIT DID CHANGE GRAFFITI FOR THE WORSE THOUGH CUZ BEFORE A NIGGA HAD TO REALLY BE INTO THIS SHIT AND IT WASNT EASY...SOMEONE HAD TO SEE YOU WRITIN OR SEE YOU WITH SOME GRAFFITI TYPE SHIT (A TAG ON YOUR HAT, A BLACKBOOK) AND EVEN THEN THE "WHAT YOU WRITE?" QUESTION WASN'T A SAFE ONE TO ANSWER CUZ YOU COULD SAY THE WRONG NAME OR WRONG CREW AND END UP SCRAPPIN RIGHT THEN N THERE. NOW THE SHIT IS MAD SAFE AND NIGGAS SETTLE THEY DIFFERENCES ON AIM AND MEET UP IN STARBUCKS AND JUST KICK IT. NIGGAS HAD TO GO ON MISSIONS TO GET SUPPLIES, WASNT NO MAIL ORDER, AND FLICKS WAS A WHOLE NOTHER THING CUZ THERE WASNT NO PHOTOBUCKET AND DIGITAL CAMERAS LOOKED LIKE TOASTER OVENS THAT YOU STICK A FLOPPY DISK INTO...(WHEN THE SHIT GOT DIGITAL) BEFORE THAT YOU COULD FUCK AROUND AND FLICK FOR HOURS ONLY TO GET THE SHITS DEVELOPED AND THEY ALL FUCKED UP AND DARK OR AINT COME OUT AT ALL. BASICALLY A NIGGA REALLY HAD TO BE DOWN FOR THE CAUSE. NOW ANY RINKYDINK SKATEBOARD NIGGA CAN PICK UP SOME MAGAZINES AND DO SOME WILD RIDICULOUS SHIT AND BE THE NEXT NECKFACE WITHOUT KNOWING NOT ONE WRITER OR OLD SCHOOL NIGGA. WHEN I WAS A LITTLE NIGGA MEETIN COPE WAS A BIG DEAL AND NIGGAS WOULD KICK IT IN FRONT OF THAT NIGGA BUILDING WITH BOOKS AND SHIT AND JUST ABSORB SHIT FROM OLDER NIGGAS. FOR THESE YOUNG NIGGAS GOOGLE AND FLICKR IS COPE AND SEEN AND IZ (RIP) AND ALL THOSE NIGGAS IN DIGITAL SOULLESS FORM. SHIT IS WACK. BUT YO THE INTERNET PRETTY MUCH MADE GETTIN PUSSY EASIER THAN BRUSHIN MY TEETH SO GOOD LOOKIN FOR THAT INTERNET. PRECIATE IT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA KID MERO Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 THATS WHY WHEN THESE LIL NIGGAS ASK ME FOR WEBSITES IM LIKE "NAH FUCK THAT MY NIGGA, FUCK THE INTERNET, TALK TO OGS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernummy Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 ACCESS TO PORN[/size] Seriously though. When i was a runt you got porn one of three ways... 1) You racked it (Pretty hard to do since we were all small and they were usually on the top racks of the newstands/bookstores/liquor store 2) You got on your bike, rode to the local swap meet and found the booth with the cool old guy who would sell you a dog-eared copy of playboy and tell you "Yo momma gonna whup yo asses when she see whatchoo got! Eeee hee hee hee!" 3) You got someone's older brother to buy a copy for you don't forget squigglevision (when you had cable, but those channels were blocked, so you had to sneak up at night hoping your parents were asleep, and you KINDA got em, but you had to really concentrate on them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
work yr soul Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 i'm gonna throw this out there, i only thought of it a moment ago so don't flame me... basically because of the internet maybe graffiti has come full circle and is back to where it was in the early 70s in NYC: *innovations in style can be bitten or adapted within hours by anyone in the 'community'. *graffiti is once again just a hobby for some new kids (see the youtube toys thread) rather than a full blown obsession - its just something they do in between other interests. *in the early 70s writers had a personal preference for hitting certain spots on the subway car and there was some order to it, in other words everyone had their niche - kinda like now with it split into trains, streets/walls, galleries and street art. *some writers are dressing 'fly' again! have you noticed? i'm seeing a lot of new kids with spotless kicks and immaculate clothes. *for better or worse the flickr documenters are, in a way, filling the role played by Cooper, Chalfant and Craig Castleman et al back in the day (yeah i know it was the 80s not the 70s when they did their thing), bringing graffiti to new audiences using the prevalent media of the day. or maybe i'm talking shit. graff 2.0! adapt or die! who's gonna be the next Phase2? hmm maybe not...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACTORY_MADE Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 i think you guys are exagerating this instant gratification shit too much. Like you know what i usually call a kid who has no context of graff outside of the net? a toy. And those kids usually continue to be toys or just grow out of graffiti. Alot of people on here started doing this shit cus they saw it in a magazine or a book and that is no better than getting into graffiti by going online. It's where people take it that matters. info on making mops , nibs, modding caps, hearing tall tales, was always easily available. Maybe not in bumblefuck sacramento but growing up in ny where there was a graff scene that information was not exclusive at all. Everyone knew that so and so had a pegleg or that yadayada smoked crack. the only thing thats changed about it is the way we percieve it. and as far as shit getting social. I think we could blame that on things like an economic bubble. Better understandings of property.(ipods, psp, 500$ phones, mad brand name gear) that really shifted people mentality. With all these amenities people are mor comfortable and conciousness shifts. Niggas are no longer bored/angry enough to be runnin around trying to spit blades from they mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iloveboxcars Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Right?! I got my first e-mail address when I was a senior in College ('96) - AOL dial up 28.8 the internet started blowing up around 92.. which would place you in your teens. yadidadigme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 and it isn't just graffiti. the internet has taken the soul out of any hobby where information gathering is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushawn wuan Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 i only read as far to where you said you and your friend didnt grow up with the internet so im going to say your friend is dao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushawn wuan Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 so yeah, the internet is probably bad, but porn is free and abundant, so you'll have to kill me before you take it away. THIS. but then again sometimes i feel like ive seen all the bitches out there, all the positions over and over and over. but fuck that scat porn shit and them crazy asians with they weird porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Nerves Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 We didn't have the internet on this.. But we did have Frogger: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 and it isn't just graffiti. the internet has taken the soul out of any hobby where information gathering is needed. It's not all accurate information, though. Remember Geocities? Everyone was an "expert" on there. You still have to sift through a lot of crap on the internet to find straight answers. As far as my experience with the internet, I started using the web in the early 90s. My stepmom works for Adobe, so we had a few Macs around the house. The one I used had a 28.8 modem, and I'd talk with people about skateboarding and parties on an early network called SFNet and a couple of Bay Area BBSes. Around 1995 my dad got an AOL subscription so I migrated over there for a couple years, and in 1997 I got my first Yahoo account. For a while I used a Powerbook 5300 (1998-2002) on dialup just to check email and newsgroups, since that's about all it was good for. About all I've ever used the web for is keeping in touch with people and information. As far as that goes, the internet has a place in my life but it hasn't replaced anything nor is it a substitute for going out and being social. It's definitely changed over the years for better and for worse. Compared to 15 years ago what's available online now is amazing, but sometimes the sheer volume makes it tough to find what you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindle Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 THE INTERNET ROTTED MY ATTENTION SPAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Seeing as i'm only 19 maybe i have a different view on the internet than the rest of you. The internet wasn't given to me until i was about 16, and a cell phone until i turned legal. To say our generation was raised on the internet seems like a lazy way to blame the "wrong doings" and "exploitations of cultures" that have happened since then on the younger generation... But remember, without the generation before us (who the success of the internet was ultimately relied on), the exploitations of any given group of people never would have happened. Maybe i'm just drunk and rambling and guilty of not reading the reason for this thread, but the people responsible for any downfall are allways quick to point fingers at the lesser of people... Bottom line is things have changed since the 90s...which is no surprise. Everything changes and im sure the generation before yours would have similar things to say about you as you do about us. People are going to be who they are no matter what, doesnt matter when they were born.... Just stay real to yourself. Fuck everything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushawn wuan Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 i also think being on a compute for hours a day has something to do with my sucky vision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightscrawler Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ... IS NOT A BIG TRUCK, THE INTERNET IS A SERIES OF TUBES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killrbeez Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 What The fuck is the Internet.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 hahahahaha, dao, you do realize photoshop has tools to draw circles for you instead of trying to freehand that shit, or is that shit too tech? I didn't grow up with the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 The one good thing that the internet has done for me is help mature my taste of music, when i was younger i was really into rap, but as i got older and music got more shitty through the 2000's i really began to hate this shit we call rap. I would hear talk about groups such as led zep and the who and got curious. All i had to do was do some clicks here and there and VOILA! i have an entire discography of some of the greatest bands of all time. (funny shit, my American history teacher got me into weezer) You coulda just turned on the radio and switched the dial to your local classic rock station. They've been playing the life out of bands like The Who and Led Zeplin non-stop for the past 30+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 the internet started blowing up around 92.. which would place you in your teens. yadidadigme? I seriously doubt that I'm alone in saying that I never even heard the word "internet" till the mid-late 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakeenyc Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 information revolution 2.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 I seriously doubt that I'm alone in saying that I never even heard the word "internet" till the mid-late 90's. your time tables are off. unless philly is under a huge tech news blocking rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I'm a bit with DAO on that one (not late 90's but my first memories of the internet thing are an old microsoft ad in about 1994 "aren't you tired of being outside the amusement park?" which made me sit up and listen.) Some hungarian writer I traded flicks with was rabbiting on about it and I had no idea wtf he was talking about -Electric mail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris The Butcher Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 The internet is an angry fat black woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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!@#$% Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 for better or for worse. the internet is still no substitute for experiencing things. i hope the next generation gets bored of the internet because it's always there. my job is pretty much information and data gathering the internet has only enhanced my ability to do molecular biology it's hard for people who don't know shit about genetics to understand how the internet revolutionized and aided genomics, proteomics, medical research etc. we can all share our findings about genes, gene transcripts, species variations, SNPs, nomenclature, procedures, protocols etc etc etc and this is only in the prism of genetics. i don't kno where the fuck my research would be without http://www.pubmed.org or http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi blast. you can type in a sequence and the database will analyze it and spit out similar sequences.. it's tough to see why i guess but it is invaluable. priceless, and totally necessary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 TACKZ-AM7-T7L in Amsterdam 1996. That's a rare pic. And JOE-ASD next to him is even more rare! Guess this interweb thing has it's up side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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