RIP Dolla

[seeking]

you cant really blame the problems blacks face on whites, and then claim that whites are failing in their attempts to control blacks. you get one or the other, not both.

if ever there was a nefarious plot to keep black people down, it's become so ingrained that whites can now completely step back and let yall run it yourself. but indeed, you all do do it with great swagger, so congrats on that.

[Abstract Rationality]

I'm not black, or at least completely.

 

I'm not blaiming Dolla gettin' bucked in the head on whites.

 

I DO understand both sides of this story, Seeking. I see where you're coming from.

 

 

I DON'T understand how people can talk shit about a whole race

and its actions without keeping in mind how this shit got here in the first place.

 

 

 

That goes for the so-called "aliens" that live in this country as well.

 

 

 

But that's another topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Swagger? Hell yeah mother fucker.

[autoteller]

1. you dress like shit in the south because there's mainly labor jobs. even the women work em`. you don't wear a tux to a hole in the ground, or enyce to the coal mine.

 

2. i've never heard one redneck whine about how 'that bitch's shit ain't nice'. infact you'll never hear that. most hicks are pretty cool, though scary and unpredictable. i've never unloaded rounds of buckshot into gas cans with dudes from the hood, but i sure as fuck have with rednecks, and then shot 5 other types of guns that i've never heard of.

 

simply put, the cultures are different. comparing one to another is like apples to oranges. hicks would rather spend more money on guns and less on clothes, whereas dudes in the hood spend more money on clothes so they can appear to have more cash than they do, and then spend 50 bucks on a shitty glock, and maybe a few grand on a sub-par post-ban assault rifle, and go broke for it, when the hick already has 12.

 

simply put, the rappers dress the gangsta part, but i bet if we invited jethro and his boys up to the city, they'd be able to turn a small city into a crater and they'd be wearing nothing but a stained wifebeater and acid wash jeans stolen from a goodwill container from 1982

[japillahan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqsDRQJesMI

[seeking]

abstract,

sorry for all the ignorant jokes. if we were in the same room, youd understand where i'm coming from much better.

[Abstract Rationality]

All good, normal discussions.......

 

 

I'm sure we'd have a better talk.

 

 

I'll go on forever about race or religion. It all comes down to who's close or open minded.

[seeking]

agreed.

[southside google gangster]

niggas really be takin this shit seriously..im from/live in the hood..so i SEE lots and lots of dirt on a daily basis..i see mad shit that i'll never talk about on the intenet i dont expect everyone on here to believe it..cause its foreign to you.

 

 

NAHMEAN?

[southside google gangster]

and i dont hate white people..not all white guys are soft....but they would get bodied in the hood if they tried to get on some crazy shit...it really doesnt matter what race you are..if you go to somebody else hood with no posse, no weapons and think you gonna do whatever you want cause your invicible try again...

[SwampFightOner]

And I don't hate black people..not all black people are soft...but come to an Italian/Irish/whatever hood poppin all that crazy shit and see what happens

 

That's my point son, ya feel me?

[famecrazy]

I come from one of the most racist countries in the world, and somebody touched on it before saying that the racism is so entrenched in white people that they don't have to do fuck all these days but sit back and watch the ethnics fight it out.

The reason blacks, hispanics or who ever seem to be a little more crazy than your average white is because usually they are. They feel repressed, degraded and lower than the whites and they probably don't even understand why.

[shaolinmasta]

Honestly I don't give a fuck about your race, I perceive you as how you are as an actual person

 

/No hippy talk

 

But yeah that's how I think in my mind anyway.

[TheoHuxtable..]

I come from one of the most racist countries in the world, and somebody touched on it before saying that the racism is so entrenched in white people that they don't have to do fuck all these days but sit back and watch the ethnics fight it out.

The reason blacks, hispanics or who ever seem to be a little more crazy than your average white is because usually they are. They feel repressed, degraded and lower than the whites and they probably don't even understand why.

 

 

Is it really racist there? I mean I heard about a couple race riots involving beating up Lebanese but that's about it. I just never got the impression of Australia being "one of the most racist countries".

 

I consider South Korea to be the most racist country I've ever been to.

[famecrazy]

It's a different kind of racism here, it's not that violent for immigrants but they are not well received so cultures do not really mix here.

You just need look at videos like http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...n-inner-sydney to understand the australian vs minority state of mind.

[TheoHuxtable..]

The link didn't work. I think you posted the abridged version.

[famecrazy]

http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129397

[TheoHuxtable..]

I didn't see what that had to do with racism. Some dude got shot in an argument.

[famecrazy]

the term wog is racist, however it is common lingo in australia.

[famecrazy]

similar to calling someone a nigger.

 

this might also interest you, it's loosely related (to australia)

 

http://reconciliaction.org.au/nsw/education-kit/stolen-generations/

[TheoHuxtable..]

Oh I had no idea what a wog was. Thought it was some Australian slang for "dude" or something.

 

Anyway Australia's racist history doesn't seem any worse than America's.

[famecrazy]

Video released of vicious bashing of Sourabh Sharma

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By Anthony Dowsley

 

May 21, 2009 06:34pm

 

POLICE have released images of a vicious gang bashing of a foreign student in the latest attack of what is being dubbed "Indian hunting".

The footage shows victim Sourabh Sharma, 21, being beaten after being asked for a cigarette by a group of thugs who descended on him as he travelled alone along Melbourne's Werribee train line on May 9, the Herald Sun reports.

[shaolinmasta]

Yeah I have noticed that Indians aren't very well received here

[DA KID MERO]

really? an all caps rant about how white people would be 'swagless' without blacks is a solid counter argument to my claim that black culture has begun eating away at the hope of a collective future?

if you say so.

 

LMAO NAH MY NIGGA I DONT HAVE SERIOUS ARGUMENTS ON 12OZ.COM IM JUST HERE FOR SOME GIGGLES AND SUCH. THATS WHY I GOT A TOTAL OF 2.134 POSTS IN CROSSFIRE.

 

 

YALL WOULD BE SWAGLESS WITHOUT US MINORITIES THOUGH. THATS AN UNDENIABLE FACT.

[DA KID MERO]

And I don't hate black people..not all black people are soft...but come to an Italian/Irish/whatever hood poppin all that crazy shit and see what happens

 

That's my point son, ya feel me?

 

ILL BEAT UP EVERY WHITE NIGGA IN THE WORLD TWICE WITH MY LEGS IN A POTATO SACK AND ONE SHOE ON AND A SLICK RICK EYEPATCH ON MY EYEBALLS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NAH IM JUST PLAYIN...SEEKS IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN EDUCATED DISCUSSION ON RACE RELATIONS AND SHIT YOU'RE BARKIN UP THE WRONG TREE COUSIN. I JUST LIVE MY LIFE I DONT WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT SHIT LIKE THAT UNLESS IM MAD HIGH AND FEELING PHILOSOPHICAL.

 

IT TOOK JEWS THOUSANDS OF YEARS TO GO FROM SLAVES TO WELL SPOKEN WELL EDUCATED MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE. SO GIVE BLACK PEOPLE ANOTHER 900 OR SO YEARS AND IF THEY DONT GET IT TOGETHER BY THEN ILL SAY YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY ON POINT WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

[alloverthetown]

word I just heard they put a new 40's and 9's up in there... that's my favorite store.. they even do check cashing!

[Abstract Rationality]

Actually, Africans had a culture of rich education and empires way before slavery - then shit got backtracked...too much shit to discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ignorance?? I'm all around it. This is my side last night:

 

 

 

 

Woman killed, eight wounded in violent 80 minutes on South Side

 

 

 

 

 

May 21st, 2009

 

 

 

 

A woman was killed and at least eight others were injured in four separate shootings that occurred in just over an hour Wednesday night on the South Side.

 

About 9:30 p.m., an unidentified person shot four people standing in the street in the 9400 block of South Burnside Avenue, according to police News Affairs. Additionally, a woman was also injured -- but not shot -- in the incident, authorities said.

 

The shooting occurred just outside the campus of Chicago State University.

Gresham District police indicated the shooting occurred during a gathering held in remembrance for 24-year-old Michael Johnson -- one of two Chicago men shot and killed early Wednesday outside a bar at 403 Torrence Ave. in Calumet City.

Family members of Johnson live close to where the shooting occurred, and one of the victims -- a man who suffered a graze wound to the head -- is related to Johnson, police said.

In Wednesday night’s shooting, two men and a woman were found shot near South Burnside Avenue and South Langley Avenue, according to Fire Media Affairs Director Larry Langford.

Police said the group gathered to remember Johnson were standing in the street and dove to the ground when an unknown gunman or gunmen started firing an assault-type weapon towards them.

 

 

Brittany Barnes, 21, of the 9400 block of South Eberhart Avenue, was pronounced dead at 11 p.m. at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office.

Police said Barnes suffered two gunshot wounds to the “left lower back” and thigh, while Langford said she was shot in the abdominal area. An autopsy is scheduled for later Thursday, the medical examiner’s office said.

 

 

A 31-year-old man, reportedly Johnson’s relative, suffered a graze wound to the head and refused medical treatment, police said.

 

 

A 28-year-old man was taken is in good condition at Advocate Trinity Hospital with a gunshot wound to the leg, police said early Thursday.

A third man, 26, took himself to Trinity Hospital with a gunshot wound to the elbow and was treated-and-released, police said early Thursday.

A fifth person, a woman, was also injured when she landed on something -- possibly glass -- that cut her arm as she attempted to drive away from the gunfire, Langford said. She told emergency personnel she would be taking herself to an area hospital to receive stitches.

None of the people are related, including the woman killed, but it was not immediately known if they know each other, according to police.

 

 

The survivors told police they heard the shots, but did not see anything that occurred, according to police, who did not have a description of the attackers or know immediately how many suspects they are seeking.

 

 

Multiple shell casings from different weapons -- including the assault weapon -- were found on the scene, including those of a .9 mm, “rifle-type” and .40 caliber, police said.

Police are investigating the shooting as possibly gang-related.

 

 

In a separate shooting about 8:40 p.m., a 16-year-old boy was outside in the 7400 block of South Colfax Avenue when he “heard shots and felt pain,” according to Grand Crossing District police.The boy suffered a gunshot wound to the lower leg and was taken to an undisclosed hospital in “stable” condition, police said.

 

 

About 9:30 p.m., an 18-year-old man and a 22-year-old man were shot at 6101 S. King Dr., authorities said.

 

 

Police said three black males wearing black hooded-sweatshirts emerged from an alley, opened fire then fled south.The victims told police they “heard shots and felt pain,” police said.

 

 

The 22-year-old was shot in the buttocks and the 18-year-old man was shot in the shoulder. Both were taken to John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital of Cook County in good condition, Langford said.

 

 

About 10 p.m., a 27-year-old man was shot in the upper chest area in the 300 block of East 115th Street. The man was taken in critical condition to Christ Medical Center, Langford said.

Greer said no one is in custody for any of the shootings as of 10:30 p.m.

 

 

Calumet Area detectives are investigating all four shootings, but nobody is in custody for any of the attacks early Thursday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sirens go allllll night ..........

[seeking]

somebody touched on it before saying that the racism is so entrenched in white people that they don't have to do fuck all these days but sit back and watch the ethnics fight it out.

 

i hate to burst anyones bubble, but your average white person in america, in practice, isn't really all that racist these days. they might make a joke, they might be a little apprehensive of dealing with thuggish black people, but i don't know anyone who does anything to 'keep blacks down'. pretty much we all just go about life in our little world.

[TheoHuxtable..]

Aubrey Berry acquitted of all charges

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/22/local/la-me-0522-rapper-verdict-20100522

 

Man acquitted in rapper's shooting death

Aubrey Berry said he fired at Dolla at the Beverly Center in Los Angeles in self-defense.

 

May 22, 2010|By Jack Leonard, Los Angeles Times

A man who shot and killed an up-and-coming rapper at the Beverly Center last year was acquitted of murder Friday in a case that focused in part on the victim's violence-laced gangsta rap lyrics.

 

Aubrey Berry, 24, was hugged by his defense attorney as the last of the not guilty verdicts was read in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom. Friends and family of rapper Dolla, whose real name was Roderick Anthony Burton II, wailed and sobbed in the audience.

 

"Obviously, what happened on May 18, 2009, was a horrible tragedy for everyone," Superior Court Judge Michael E. Pastor told the lawyers in court. "The jurors have spoken."

 

Berry testified last week that he opened fire in self-defense in the parking garage of the upscale mall. He said Burton, 21, threatened to kill him near the valet desk and reached toward his back as though he were drawing a gun. Police found no weapon on Burton, who was shot once in the left biceps and three times in the back.

 

Berry testified that Burton had been part of a group of men who kicked and punched him 11 days earlier at an Atlanta nightclub.

 

Minutes before the shooting, the two men saw each other again while dining separately at P.F. Chang's in the Beverly Center. Berry said he left the restaurant in fear and watched Burton leave a minute later and run at him.

 

Berry had a concealed handgun on his hip, a weapon he said he routinely carried after being the victim of several violent crimes. He had a permit to carry the firearm in Georgia and other states but said he did not realize the permit did not apply to California.

 

Jurors deliberated less than two days before rejecting murder or manslaughter charges in Burton's death and assault charges in which Berry was accused of firing at two men who were with Burton at the time of the shooting. Only Burton was struck by gunfire.

 

Outside court, defense attorney Howard R. Price hailed the jury for carefully weighing the evidence and faulted the district attorney's office for pursuing the shooting as a murder, calling the decision "absurd."

 

"This is clearly a case of justice being done," he said.

 

During the trial, Berry told jurors he had learned about Burton through online research after the Atlanta assault. He said he viewed an Internet video in which Burton stood with alleged gang members and boasted about breaking a man's jaw. And he listened to one of Burton's songs in which the rapper glorified gangs and bragged about always carrying a gun.

 

Price described Burton as a violent gang member and played both the video and the song — "Is You Holdin'?" — during closing arguments this week. He said they showed that Berry was justified in fearing for his life when he shot Burton.

 

"His music is horrendous, offensive," Price said Friday as he waited for his client to leave court. "I don't think he engendered any sympathy."

 

Deputy Dist. Atty. Bobby Grace said he was disappointed by the verdict but felt prosecutors presented a compelling case. He said he was unsure whether the rap lyrics swayed the jury.

 

"You'd hate to think that was the tipping point," he said outside court.

 

Jurors told the judge they did not want to speak to reporters and were escorted from the courthouse through a secure exit.

 

Prosecutors argued during the trial that Burton's music was irrelevant. They said his lyrics were simply entertainment: part of a gangsta rap genre that went mainstream years ago. And they accused the defense of victimizing Burton again by characterizing him as a thug.

 

Prosecutors told jurors that Berry was lying about the shooting and argued that ballistics and blood evidence showed the singer was running away when the fatal shots into his back were fired.

 

But Price disagreed, saying Burton was stationary and posing a threat when he was shot. The lawyer said the ordeal of the last year had taken a toll on his client, who was housed in isolation in jail to ensure his safety from gang members.

 

Price said he believed that Berry, who had no criminal record, was the key to his own acquittal.

 

"He was such a lovable, likable person that I think people understood and accepted his version," Price said. "Aubrey could never have won this case if the jury did not believe him."

[TheoHuxtable..]

Aubrey Berry found not guilty on all charges in shooting death of rapper, Dolla:

 

 

Back story:

(Pt. 1)

(Pt. 2)

 

 

Aubrey Berry testifies in his own defense on why he shot Roderick "Dolla" Burton:

 

Trial ends in 1st degree murder trial of Aubrey Berry, Roderick "Dolla Burton:

[T_R_O_N]

Sometimes i can't believe people actually say the shit they say on here, then i remember this is the internet and you're all robots.