yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 so to be quick with an intro... i post on some private joint between a few friends and i, we started an art thread because alot of us paint canvas as opposed to write graffiti nowadays. i love graffiti which is why im on here all the time, but the long depressing drowning feeling of being a soon to be self employed muralist in not well paying pittsburgh has me intrigued to find out if i can make it on my own making sometimes taxable/nontaxable income and traveling doing shows and so forth. i know some people who post on here are better than i am at this, and we all have our influences and references and i would like this to be a thread fitting all of it and also our own personal work. i know there is another part on this site for this, i think it is untitled, but noone really posts there and there is so much personality in channel zero as opposed to untitled and i believe the discussion can be alot better..... anyway some flicks of people i enjoy. richard prince this dude saved my ass in a crit in college i wasnt ready for because of a vicodin bender with and old flame. i had to have a specific reference for my work so i rocked some stenciled letters and even that wasnt good enough. i broke out a quote he had from an interview with "modern painters" magazine (american edition)interview below. an interview from modern painters... a euro mag "For our SPECIAL AMERICAN ISSUE, we invited Richard prince to curate an on-the-page installation. Best known for his photographs and his joke paintings, Prince reveals in his email responses to MODERN PAINTERS' questions that while his sources are multifarious, by no means anything goes". Have you always been funny? Richard Prince: No, I'm not so funny. I like it when other people are funny. It's hard being funny. Being funny is a way to survive. It's like that joke: Jewish Man to his Friend: 'If I live I'll see you Wednesday. If I don't I'll see you Thursday'. When did you start telling jokes? Prince: I never really started telling. I started telling them over. Back in 1985, in Venice, California, I was drawing my favorite cartoons in pencil on paper. After this I dropped the illustration or image part of the cartoon and concentrated on the punch line. What was your first joke? And when did you tell it? Prince: The 'psychiatrist' joke. 1986- when I was living in New York, in the back of 303 Gallery on Park Ave. South. Like this- 'I went to see a psychiatrist. He said "tell me everything", I did, and now he's doing my act'. I wrote it out by hand on a piece of paper with a pencil. On a small piece of paper. I called it a "Hand-Written "joke. Are they always your own jokes? Prince: None of them are mine. I get them from magazines, books, the internet. Sometimes from the inside of a bank. You know they're just like blueprints that float around the sky and show up on a cloud. Sometimes I buy them from other criminals. People tell them to me. Ministers. Rabbis. Priests. Once I saw one in the washing machine spinning around getting clean. Do you laugh at your own jokes? Prince: No. Are there comedians you enjoy watching? Prince: Sam Kinison. Bernie Mac. Richard Pryor. Phyllis Diller. Rodney Dangerfield. Are there any no-go areas of humour? Prince: Religious paintings. Religious jokes. Black paintings. Black jokes. White paintings. White jokes. Right and wrong. Responsibility. Crossing a line. Step over this line if you want to fight, and then that someone does and you step back and draw another line. 'Why did the Nazi cross the road?' That's it. My no-going area is like living in sand. Moving by wading more than swimming. I mean I wouldn't kill for a joke. There's a lot of areas the world goes where it shouldn't be going. The world is fucked up enough without me fucking it up more. Most people start painting and then add words. Did you start the other way? Prince: I got my supplies. I got my houseboat. I got a good pair of shoes. The light is good. The clock is ticking. I wake up and I'm doing it in my sleep. The bed is made and the floor is clean. It's my turn to drive, I sit back. I stare. I stare at the painting and I forget. It's finished. Then I get more canvas and more stretchers and more paint and start over. When did you first think that you were a serious artist? Prince: In 1967. I was seventeen. I walked into the Whiskey on Sunset Strip and heard Jim Morrison sing Roadhouse Blues. Does your art come from an autobiographical source? Prince: It's all just like me. And it's all what I like. If you like it, I'll call it mine. But you can't say it's all mine. Some of me, some of you. Most of me, none of you. It's like when they ask me where I'm from- I say, 'not from any place really'. And they say, 'What? Born in a balloon?' What do you see as your major influences? The Canal Zone. Peach Street in Braintree, Mass. Zorro. Carving the word 'shit' on my desk in fifth grade. Getting to know how to make it come out of my cock in sixth grade. Steve McQueen and the two cars in the movie Bullitt. Watching Lee Harvey Oswald get shot on TV. The Vietnam war. Martin Luther King's assassination. Jackson Pollack. Lenny Bruce. Jimmy Piersol (he played baseball for the Boston Red Sox and he was mentally unstable). Touching the Berlin Wall in 1968. Rod Sterling. Hugh Hefner. What's My Line? Truth or Consequences. Who Do You Trust? The Ed Sullivan Show (all TV shows). Milton Bradley. Christian Metz. Lew Welch (a poet). Two Lane Blacktop (a movie). Woodstock. Procol Harum. Blonde on Blonde. Beach combing in Weymouth, Mass, when I was a teenager. West Side Story- especially the outfit Bernardo wore to the YMCA dance. The INs and OUTs of the New York Social Register. The fragrance counter at Sak's Fifth Avenue. Carol Shelby. The shininess of the Velvet Underground. The Beach Boys'. In My Room. The World of Video. Tons more. Tons. Are there other artists working today or in the past that you rate highly? Christopher Wool. Jeff Koons. Fischli & Weiss. David Hammonds. Sarah Lucas. Martin Kippenberger. Rosemarie Trockel. Walter Dahn. George Condo. James Casebere. James Welling. Dike Blair. Ricky Sparrow. Damien Hirst. Thomas Ruff. Is advertising a major influence in your work? Overdetermination. Art directed. Psychologically hopped-up. Too good to be true. The way it could be but never is. I wouldn't say an influence so much as a sub-text. I've always liked when the impossible looks possible. Like a good Sci-Fi film. Although your subject matter is loud, your palette seems quiet. Is this how you see it? Yes. Like a beautiful scar on our head. As well as jokes, are you also working on other kinds of painting? YES. I'm painting nurses. I like their hats. Their aprons. Their shoes. My mother was a nurse. My sister was a nurse. My grandmother and two cousins were nurses. I collect 'nurse' books. Paperbacks. You can't miss them. They're all over the airport. I like the words 'nurse', 'nurses', 'nursing'. I'm recovering. Do you work at the same time with photographic images as well as written ones? Yes. Mixing up the medicine. Pajamas and a pipe. Slippers and a dog. Back and forth. Which is which? Bang a gong. Dip a brush. Click a camera. It's a free concert from now on. Do you find it confusing to work in different media at the same time? There's nothing confusing about making art for me. I can't build a house. I can't ride a horse. I can't repair a car. I can't sing and I can't vote. Wavy hair. Freckles on a face. An arm defined by a vein. I can make art. Does working and living outside of New York help to focus the mind on art matters and avoid art politics? I like living outside. Working outside. Right now outside is good. I can eat politics, I can sleep politics, but I don't have to drink politics. he makes other shit too, i just loooooove the joke paintings so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 my man thad mosley a real pittsburgh mafucka for real!! the mail man!! anyway, if you dont know about thaddeus mosley, he is a pittsburgh staple. 83 years old served in some old war, was a mail man to support his family and is an all around great guy. brian and i were in a workshop with dude in like 99 or 2000. he has a retrospective at the mattress factory up now its worth a saturday afternoon trip for sure. dylan is your pops cool with him i bet he is, i wanna kick it with your pops sometime soon i would like to ask him for a crit of my new work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Bo Bartlett Tarmac 1986 Medium: oil on linen Dimensions: 120 x 168 inches Price: Private Collection Damascus Road 1988 Medium: oil on linen Dimensions: 120 x 168 inches Price: Private Collection Assumption 2001 Medium: oil on linen Dimensions: 48 x 66 inches Price: Private Collection Leviathan 2000 Medium: oil on linen Dimensions: 89 x 138 inches Price: Private Collection Lady Eby 2007 Medium: oil on panel Dimensions: 24 x 24 inches Price: Private Collection The Forge (Swords into Plowshares) 2008 Medium: oil on linen Dimensions: 108 x 156 inches Private Collection Still Point 2007 Medium: oil on panel Dimensions: 32.5" x 32.5" Keep in mind most of these are larger than life size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan5 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 hmmmmmmmmmmm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Harris Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 wall.. of text. but the paintings at the bottom were very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndoe2008 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 alsoit would be cool if people would post show listings in their respective cities just in case people are traveling over the summer, i know ill be showing in boston in august and can get to chicago, philly, nyc, etc etc easilyto check out shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delonemonkey Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The "art" in the first post is garbage, second post is dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 hmmmmmmmmmmm worth a shot fuck it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 my boys flicks from the art institue of chicago museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 E.V. Day Bombshell, 1999, White crepe dress with monofilament and turnbuckles, 192 x 240 x 240 Scarlett Aorta, 2002, Red sequin dress with monofilament and turnbuckles, 192 x 240 x 240 Kristin Baker smash Mai Braun NYT - Oct 10, 2007 (Iraq), 2008; lacquer spray paint on newspaper; 11.5 x 12 Spencer Finch 49 Minutes (after Kawabata) | 2004, 14" x 14" each, seven digital C-prints, unique. The seven images are shot at seven minute intervals looking through a window at dusk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 FRED SANDBACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 My man thad mosley Any more pics, I've only heard of this guy never saw his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 the current favorites of mine: (tracing the border of Israel with a can of paint) Francis Alys^^ Blinky Palermo^ - all time favorite, died of an OD/suicide after his first major work, look him up. How to explain art to a dead animal^ Joseph Beuys^^ pencil on a wall^ Sol Lewitt^^ Lawrence Weiner^ jenny holzer^ raymond pettibon^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan5 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 those line things are pretty bannanas oh and last time i was in LA i went to an art shoe and it had some of that text stuff some was stupid but then again some was pretty mind bogling and made you think also i gotta add there was a painting in one of the mueseums i visited that had an all black painting with like a one foot by one foot white square andsome lady was sayin they paid the artist 2000 for it i was amused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Harris Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 LOL WUT @ Black Flag stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 yeah im kind of salty i was supposed to sell a piece today for 250 and this shithead backed out on it after he made the winning bid on a silent auction so this is what i did, started a thread on 12oz. i would like to see some others post some shit in time, ive been to hella museums all over and i got flicks for days ima post til my laptop dies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delonemonkey Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 FRED SANDBACK I really hope whoever did this did not get paid for it. Unfortunately i am probably very wrong. But whatever i really dislike almost all modern art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 cy twombly^ fred sandback^ (string) gerhard richter^ John Chamberlain^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 I really hope whoever did this did not get paid for it. Unfortunately i am probably very wrong. alot of money, its in a museum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 my homey ldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 charles demuth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yinz n'at Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 mary cassatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Great thread! Let's see if CH.0 can be mature enough for it. I'll submit soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Cy Twombly Blu *Watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuGaqLT-gO4 Derek Hess (Before you even try and hate, and call him played or whatever, he's a hometown hero and a friend./nointentionalnamedrop) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan5 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 yes ill have too submit some of my favorite artists jeff soto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 More friends: Ryan Jaenke Paul Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan5 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 yo i wish i had more friends that do art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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