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did i say anything about shutting down the irs? no, i said i agree with his MESSAGE of fiscal responsibility. don't try to read too much into random-ass comments on the web

 

i've never heard him say shit about shutting down the irs, just the federal reserve, which i wholeheartedly agree with

 

i'm a big fan of LESS government interference in my life, and he's the only national politician i've ever heard say the same things that i feel...but i guess i'm not allowed to voice my opinion on a public internet message board

 

what do i have to do? become a premium member? get my post count up? you tell me DAO, you obviously run things around here.

 

 

and get it right, it's either "this cracker" or "this honkie"

 

"this peckerwood" would also be acceptable

 

/no racist

/no prison gang

/no racist prison gang

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did i say anything about shutting down the irs? no, i said i agree with his MESSAGE of fiscal responsibility. don't try to read too much into random-ass comments on the web

 

 

 

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

THAT'S YOUR BOYS HOLE M.O. WAS THAT HE WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE IRS!!!

THAT'S WHAT HE WAS RUNNING ON!!!

YOU'RE ON THIS NIGGAS DICK AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HIS MESSAGE!!!

LMFAO!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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HA.

 

 

 

 

IGNORANT PEOPLE MAKING AN IGNORANT THREADS.

 

 

READ SOME BOOKS KID. LEARN THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN RUN DOWN WAY OVER 8 YRS NOW. IT HAS GONE DOWN INCREASINGLY THE LAST 20-30 YRS, AND IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE 100 DAYS TO FIX THE PROBLEMS.

 

THERE'S NO RELATION BETWEEN SWINE FLU AND OBAMA. TO EVEN CORRELATE THE TWO IS IGNORANT ENOUGH NOT TO READ THE REST OF THIS THREAD, BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO MOTIVATE YOU TO BECOME EDUCATED.

 

 

OBAMA SMOKING A CIGARETTE, WOW, THAT'S FUCKED UP TOO!

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That's why you're completely oblivious to what the fuck is going on.

You've been holed up in your rightwing conspiracy blogs for so long that you have no idea what the fuck is going on. People like you are so easily manipulated into believing the complete opposite of reality that it's rediculous. Just look at the titles you typed for your links. The shit is fucking laughable.

 

You can post all the wackjob propaganda you want, but those of us who are grounded in the real world already know better than to click on your links or even attempt to read your walls of text.

You're a lost cause, Casek. And I'm not even sure that there's any hope of talking sense to you anymore when it comes to this type of shit.

You're in your own world these days.

 

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lol @ this being the most hypocritical post in the history of 12oz :lol: :lol: :lol:

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

THAT'S YOUR BOYS HOLE M.O. WAS THAT HE WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE IRS!!!

THAT'S WHAT HE WAS RUNNING ON!!!

YOU'RE ON THIS NIGGAS DICK AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HIS MESSAGE!!!

LMFAO!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

THIS NIGGA THINKS THE IRS AND THE FED ARE THE SAME THING :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I THINK HE ALSO SAID THAT THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS SO THE US WOULD HAVE CIVIL WARS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

 

NO WONDER THIS FOOL LIKES OBAMA.

 

what he was trying to do is relate a quote by thomas jefferson.

 

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.

The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is

wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts

they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,

it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not

warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of

resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as

to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost

in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from

time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

It is its natural manure."

 

 

as usual, he fucked it up by his lack of understanding of our history.

 

 

 

metronome: you are correct. he is a troll, but not as educated as most trolls.

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what he was trying to do is relate a quote by thomas jefferson.

 

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.

The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is

wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts

they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,

it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not

warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of

resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as

to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost

in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from

time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

It is its natural manure."

 

 

as usual, he fucked it up by his lack of understanding of our history.

 

 

 

 

 

How the fuck did I fuck it up when you just said exactly what I was saying, dipshit? :dunce:

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DAO: i wanted to see what kind of faggot ass reply you'd have for me....

exactly as expected troll.

 

so, i found this. it's aimed at little kids..you should be able to understand it.

 

http://jc-schools.net/write/civil-war.htm

" The reasons for the Civil War were different economies, state’s rights to vote on laws, and the election of Abraham Lincoln as president."

 

for the adults:

http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/outlines.htm

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you're still on my ignore list, i was just curious to see how you'd back up your stupidity.

 

 

 

TOP FIVE CAUSES OF THE CIVIL WAR

 

1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

 

With Eli Whitney’s invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

 

2. States versus federal rights.

 

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weakness of this form of government caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

 

3. The fight between Slave and Non-Slave State Proponents.

 

As America began to expand, first with the lands gained from the Louisiana Purchase and later with the Mexican War, the question of whether new states admitted to the union would be slave or free. The Missouri Compromise passed in 1820 made a rule that prohibited slavery in states from the former Louisiana Purchase the latitude 36 degrees 30 minutes north except in Missouri. During the Mexican War, conflict started about what would happen with the new territories that the US expected to gain upon victory. David Wilmot proposed the Wilmot Proviso in 1846 which would ban slavery in the new lands. However, this was shot down to much debate. The Compromise of 1850 was created by Henry Clay and others to deal with the balance between slave and free states, northern and southern interests. One of the provisions was the fugitive slave act that was discussed in number one above. Another issue that further increased tensions was the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. It created two new territories that would allow the states to use popular sovereignty to determine whether they would be free or slave. The real issue occurred in Kansas where proslavery Missourians began to pour into the state to help force it to be slave. They were called “Border Ruffians.” Problems came to a head in violence at Lawrence Kansas. The fighting that occurred caused it to be called “Bleeding Kansas.” The fight even erupted on the floor of the senate when antislavery proponent Charles Sumner was beat over the head by South Carolina’s Senator Preston Brooks.

 

4. Growth of the Abolition Movement.

 

Increasingly, the northerners became more polarized against slavery. Sympathies began to grow for abolitionists and against slavery and slaveholders. This occurred especially after some major events including: the publishing of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s Uncle Tom’s Cabin, the Dred Scott Case, John Brown’s Raid, and the passage of the fugitive slave act that held individuals responsible for harboring fugitive slaves even if they were located in non-slave states.

 

5. The election of Abraham Lincoln.

 

Even though things were already coming to a head, when Lincoln was elected in 1860, South Carolina issued its “Declaration of the Causes of Secession.” They believed that Lincoln was anti-slavery and in favor of Northern interests. Before Lincoln was even president, seven states had seceded from the Union: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas.

 

 

 

 

economics not secession.

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Casek, you can copy paste a million and one reasons that cause the Civil war, but that's completely irrelevant.

It's not even the point that we're talking about.

 

The souths GOAL was to secceed from the union.

That was their purpose for fighting the war.

Their mission was to SECCEED.

 

They even called the shit "the war of secession"

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