Everyone's favourite racist gun-nut Charlton Heston expired

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

Ok, let me explain that to you, like I have many other things in this thread: Its because conservative politics means that government control should be restricted to property/contract law and allow society to regulate itself. That then implies that a man has the right to protect what he wants how he wants, hence, no restriction on weapons. A conservative government is conservative with their governing. However, a liberal government is liberal with their governing of a country, meaning they provide welfare, social law like censorship, etc. and also provide protection in society. That would also say that liberals think the state should provide protection, not every man for himself.

 

In short; Conservatives are conservative with the application of law, liberals are liberal with the application of law (liberal meaning "liberal doses of, or large helpings of).

 

I know, I know, I'm not form America so how the fuck would I know. But, if you still have trouble understanding this, feel free to ask and I'll explain it with lego and pop-up books.

 

Just jokes dude, don't take it as an e-slap.

 

 

Damn... I try and make a funny and this dude thought I was serious. :headache:

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

What are you gonna do about it DAO?

 

Does owning a gun make you a revolutionary?

 

I mean, you sure as hell won't be on the frontlines of any infowar, that's for fuck sure :haha:

 

Eat shit.

 

 

 

Nah, but it gives the people some leverage.

 

I'll leave the shit eating to you.

[phax]

three pages deep!!!! does domeone smell human feces? cause there's a video of a whiteguy wearing sunglasses taking a long nasty sht over at gangstagays.com..... this shit is a fucking emergency.... evacuate the premises bitch..... there's a fire.....

[After School Special]

Damn... I try and make a funny and this dude thought I was serious. :headache:

 

Are you really gonna front like you weren't dead serious man?

 

Really?

 

Hahahaha.

 

Dude even pulled out a dictionary and looked up "oxymoron" to drive his point home.

 

Shit is classic.

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

^This nigga just recently discovered cocain and now he thinks he's Superman.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[christo-f]

This was me nine years ago. I do like guns, but only when I've got the biggest one.

 

[After School Special]

Hey Gliks.

 

A challenger appears!

[After School Special]

^This nigga just recently discovered cocain and now he thinks he's Superman.[/img]

 

Are you talking about my post in the Team Sleep thread?

 

The one about caffeine?

 

[shitting]

gliks Vs christo behind the woolshed after school

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

Are you talking about my post in the Team Sleep thread?

 

The one about caffeine?

 

 

 

 

Nah, I don't even go in that thread.

 

I was talking about your new found bravery.

[the_gooch]

This was me nine years ago. I do like guns, but only when I've got the biggest one.

 

 

 

do you still wear glasses and have a funny smile?

 

 

:rolleyes:

[shitting]

............;)

[vivouno]

in dallas caught a whole car by sever........very clearly across the top RIP charlton heston!

[HydrogenPeroxide]

holy fuck. dao, i can respect that you have a different opinion, but goddamn, you just come off like an ignorant, uneducated dude the majority of the time

[Prime Chaos]

RIP

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

holy fuck. dao, i can respect that you have a different opinion, but goddamn, you just come off like an ignorant, uneducated dude the majority of the time

 

I'm ignorant and unuducated for supporting the second ammendment?

LMFAO!

 

Anybody who's in favor of banning a citizens right to bare arms is an ignorant uneducated fucking moron.

 

Move to another country. Please.

[pissdrunkwhat?!]

damn so many arguments going on all over lol

[Spitfire15]

NO! FUCK YOU!

 

/nh

[angelofdeath]

my only problem with heston was when he gave that 'from my cold dead hands' speech, he should of been holding an assault weapon over his head.

shame on the NRA, arguably the nations largest gun control organization, for supporting the brady bill and the brady bill expansion, GA68, NFA34, and most every other major gun control measure since the country decided to start abolishing the second amendment. atleast they acted in court after the gun confiscations of hurricane katrina.

[En Sabah Nur]

i'm going to tell everyone he got shot to death.

 

i <3 guns.

[angelofdeath]

"Ok, let me explain that to you, like I have many other things in this thread: Its because conservative politics means that government control should be restricted to property/contract law and allow society to regulate itself. That then implies that a man has the right to protect what he wants how he wants, hence, no restriction on weapons. A conservative government is conservative with their governing. However, a liberal government is liberal with their governing of a country, meaning they provide welfare, social law like censorship, etc. and also provide protection in society. That would also say that liberals think the state should provide protection, not every man for himself.

 

In short; Conservatives are conservative with the application of law, liberals are liberal with the application of law (liberal meaning "liberal doses of, or large helpings of).

 

I know, I know, I'm not form America so how the fuck would I know. But, if you still have trouble understanding this, feel free to ask and I'll explain it with lego and pop-up books.

 

Just jokes dude, don't take it as an e-slap."

 

 

in america, 'conservatism' as a movement is a relatively new phenomenon. the term wasnt commonly used, unless as a slur to say that you supported monarchies, etc, until russell kirk's book, the conservative mind, came out in 1953.

 

the founding generation for the most part was 'liberal.' which in its classical, true sense, is libertarianism. the party of classical liberalism stemmed from thomas jefferson and patrick henry, john taylor and james madison, the republicans. later termed democrats. this was the limited government party until the late 19th century. when the capital R republican party came about in the late 1850's, it started the era of real big government. around the time of the progressive era, the socialist element began to enter the democratic party. the devout statist FDR ran on a platform of abolishing government, gold standard, no foreign wars, etc. which was the platform of the classical liberals since jefferson. when FDR was elected he did a 180 on his campaign promises. a group of classical liberals formed on the american right in opposition to the march to statism, the new deal and foreign wars. these men were the beginning of the 'conservative' movement which in reality was trying to preserve the liberal tradition of our past.

 

the old right, differed with the new right that was starting to form on a few issues. the new right, began to be militaristically anti communist, while the old right maintained the traditional american foreign policy. this set the seeds of statism in the conservatism movement. so now americans are faced with facist and socialist polices of the left and the fascist and socialist policies of the right.

 

conservatives are not today what they say they are. that is quite evident when you see how far ron paul has got during his run for president. if conservatives were really the limited government types they said they are, ron paul would be the republican nominee.

 

hopefully this shows how the word 'liberal' has been corrupted. it used to mean freedom. today it is synonomous with the total state.

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

^REAL TALK.

[After School Special]

Pity you don't have the brainpower to articulate your own thoughts :(

 

It's much easier when someone says something intelligent and you claim it as your own.

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

Pity you don't have the brainpower to articulate your own thoughts :(

 

It's much easier when someone says something intelligent and you claim it as your own.

 

Who are you talking to? Alls I said was "real talk". LMAO!!!

 

Put the crack pipe down kiddo.

 

[christo-f]

in america, 'conservatism' as a movement is a relatively new phenomenon. the term wasnt commonly used, unless as a slur to say that you supported monarchies, etc, until russell kirk's book, the conservative mind, came out in 1953.

 

the founding generation for the most part was 'liberal.' which in its classical, true sense, is libertarianism. the party of classical liberalism stemmed from thomas jefferson and patrick henry, john taylor and james madison, the republicans. later termed democrats. this was the limited government party until the late 19th century. when the capital R republican party came about in the late 1850's, it started the era of real big government. around the time of the progressive era, the socialist element began to enter the democratic party. the devout statist FDR ran on a platform of abolishing government, gold standard, no foreign wars, etc. which was the platform of the classical liberals since jefferson. when FDR was elected he did a 180 on his campaign promises. a group of classical liberals formed on the american right in opposition to the march to statism, the new deal and foreign wars. these men were the beginning of the 'conservative' movement which in reality was trying to preserve the liberal tradition of our past.

 

the old right, differed with the new right that was starting to form on a few issues. the new right, began to be militaristically anti communist, while the old right maintained the traditional american foreign policy. this set the seeds of statism in the conservatism movement. so now americans are faced with facist and socialist polices of the left and the fascist and socialist policies of the right.

 

conservatives are not today what they say they are. that is quite evident when you see how far ron paul has got during his run for president. if conservatives were really the limited government types they said they are, ron paul would be the republican nominee.

 

hopefully this shows how the word 'liberal' has been corrupted. it used to mean freedom. today it is synonomous with the total state.

I guess I said pretty much the same thing without the history lesson and commentary.

 

DOA, you only ever seem to be able to hand out silly abuse (which is what I believe HydrogenPeroxide was saying) and then back up the intellectuals like AngelOfDeath as if you have an idea what you are talking about. It's hard to find any instance where you have put together a well constructed argument of your own which is not based on simple abuse of your opponent. However, when some one does make a well worded and researched post, you act all "Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking too". I believe this accusation will be answered with more silly abuse rather than measured argument.

 

AngelOfDeath, I was wondering where you were! :)

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

What the fuck are you talking about? I agreed with what dude said.... infact he pretty much gave a 5 paragraph detail of what I was getting at when I pointed out that it's ironic that the word "liberal" in todays American language is an oxymoron of it's self.

I didn't need to explain what I was getting at because anybody who's taken American History in Middle school would get what I was saying without some longwinded explaination...

 

But yeah, you're from Australia. So maybe you needed the long winded American history lesson.

Seriously. This is why you'll never see me arguing with Australians about Australian politics and history. So WTF is your problem?

 

Oh I get it. Angel of Death just corrected you with like 5 paragraphs so instead of either admitting you didn't know what you where talking about or trying to back up what you thought you where talking about, you thought you'd hop on ASS's dick for another all night type fest with ole DAO.

 

Get a life homie. For real. Alls I did was agree with dude. So if you feel inclined to strike up an all night argument then pick it with the cat who doesn't seem to mind typing short novels.

You know, the one who shot you down in the first place.

[christo-f]

Disappointed, only one bit of abuse. :lol:

 

He didn't really correct me anyway, we both said the same thing, his gave the history of it. The outcome is the same Liberal = big, Con = Small gov.

 

Ah, don't mind me dude, I just love stirring you up and generating abuse, that's all.

 

And for interest's sake, in Australia our conservative party is called the LIBERAL party!

[After School Special]

Here is the difference DAO, I'll make it simple for you.

 

If I could illustrate with watercolors on the internet I would, but this will have to do for now.

 

Your try at intellectualism:

^Now here's something we can agree on. For some reason people that are all for facist anti-gun laws are called "liberals" over here. I never understood that oxymoron.

 

What you think you sound like:

In america, 'conservatism' as a movement is a relatively new phenomenon. the term wasnt commonly used, unless as a slur to say that you supported monarchies, etc, until russell kirk's book, the conservative mind, came out in 1953.

 

the founding generation for the most part was 'liberal.' which in its classical, true sense, is libertarianism. the party of classical liberalism stemmed from thomas jefferson and patrick henry, john taylor and james madison, the republicans. later termed democrats. this was the limited government party until the late 19th century. when the capital R republican party came about in the late 1850's, it started the era of real big government. around the time of the progressive era, the socialist element began to enter the democratic party. the devout statist FDR ran on a platform of abolishing government, gold standard, no foreign wars, etc. which was the platform of the classical liberals since jefferson. when FDR was elected he did a 180 on his campaign promises. a group of classical liberals formed on the american right in opposition to the march to statism, the new deal and foreign wars. these men were the beginning of the 'conservative' movement which in reality was trying to preserve the liberal tradition of our past.

 

the old right, differed with the new right that was starting to form on a few issues. the new right, began to be militaristically anti communist, while the old right maintained the traditional american foreign policy. this set the seeds of statism in the conservatism movement. so now americans are faced with facist and socialist polices of the left and the fascist and socialist policies of the right.

 

conservatives are not today what they say they are. that is quite evident when you see how far ron paul has got during his run for president. if conservatives were really the limited government types they said they are, ron paul would be the republican nominee.

 

hopefully this shows how the word 'liberal' has been corrupted. it used to mean freedom. today it is synonomous with the total state.

 

What you really sound like:

 

Go ahead and "shoot more holes" in some theories :haha:

[After School Special]

PS, "You're an idiot cocaine head that fucks 14 year old goth girls and gets aids" doesn't cut it.

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

OH SNAP!!!

 

THE NINJA RETARD JUST WON'T QUIT!

 

 

 

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