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YANKS... U and your freights


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i understand that, but WE take our freight culture very seriously. different cars, different companies, different merchandise, different priorities and so on. the NA freight system is the life of the continent and reaches every writer in every city. it is as equal a playing field as there is in this game period. that is the excitement in it: that any kid in a small town has ALMOST OR MORE an equal shot as any big city head. I know some heads are going to argue with me at that last statement but that is my opinion. ITS REALLY HOW BAD YOU WANT IT!

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Just one last point.

Some writer's who paint freight, paint them because they are completely addicted to graffiti.

They paint 5 or 6 times a week, sometimes more if they're the really up guys. Freights are not only a medium that can be concentrated on, but they can also be a substitute for the times you can't get into the yard and spots are hot. People paint freights because they are easy, plain and simple, and even freights can be super hot depending on what part of the US you're from.

Also, I didn't mean to imply that Europe didn't have VS's. You don't hear about them in the US. New Yorks Vandal Squad is legendary. My city has one hell of a Vandal Squad as well, somewhat notorious in their own right, pulling shady shit, lying, doing whatever it takes to make an arrest. Now they've started smearing suspects names in the media as well, trying to make sure there's convictions by using the press to create additional outrage. I haven't really heard of anywhere in Europe having vandal squads as bad as this. Only thing I can think of was when France cracked down a few years back and was about to charge a lot of dudes who did damage with almost terrorism related charges, which is nuts.

 

Seriously, give the whole argument a rest. If you lived here for a while you would probably see why there is a focus on the freights. This topic has been done to death.

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You dont even paint anymore and you talk shit about the active generation, give me a fucking break. Your just another salty old douche bag hating on the Now, times have changed we cant go to the yards anymore 15 deep with food and 40's. Who here is not pissed off about that? We do what we can and some of us do way more than others.

 

Im not a punk kid I have respect for the dudes who came before me and you probably did your thing for a long time, but you came at this country real hard with that bullshit. No matter where you are from or what year we are in NYC will always be the graffiti capital of the world, and American writers will always be on top of the game, thats why you are on our forum not the other way around.

 

The game here is bigger than a city's system, the Freight trains have connected American graffiti the same way the tracks connected American cities when they were laid down. Freight train graffiti has lead to the Networking of writers from all different parts of the continent Canada and Mexico included. Kids might not be painting as many panels these days, but every single freight line in the country is running smashed out right now with layers of paint on them.

 

And finally, when the subways were really getting destroyed it was because they were running and people expected their names to run across the city forever or until they got capped. They dont run anymore, most people moved on to things that do, we dont rage on our systems because we hate our oppressive governments, for the most part we are as lazy as you are, so whats your problem.

 

P.S. A DONDI blaclbook sketch is better than the best thing European graffiti has ever produced. Who the fuck are you Dondi is graffiti.

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this arguement is stupid, lame and without merit. the guy who created this thread is either dumb as a bag of nails, some toy from europe that recently watched style wars and cant move past that, or someone consious of both and started this thread for shits and giggles.

 

if it is not the ladder, then as a toy you are perhaps you should learn more about this AMERICAN cultre before you make febile attempts to dis it.

 

europen writers get props for doing what they do. no question. and american writers who rock freights get equally, if not more props for rocking freights. if you dont live here then you cant understand this freight shit so just leave it there.

 

descended down to a scene that paints (mostly crappy) pieces on rolling garbage cans....

 

and for the record, even though i give europe writers props for rocking the trains in their countries, and i love their paint. no europe writer will ever be able to touch the likes of Dondi, or Sent, or Kwest. and no belton or montana will ever be able to hang with a can of gloss black rusto and a can of harbor blue. just like the latest wutang album will never be better than the first one.

 

common fucking sense dude. c'mon.

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zed said it best..

 

stapler, what do you want again?..no one answered your questions yet?..

 

 

"i just dont understand is the dedication and the fact that you people rate painting freights simular to that of cleans."

 

is this all you dont understand?..dont type a whole paragraph bitching about someone in america behind a screen name typing "uptight", or that you can speak for "99% of the euros"..next time, just write your question..or find an american writer in person, not online, and ask them..peace

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You dont even paint anymore and you talk shit about the active generation, give me a fucking break. Your just another salty old douche bag hating on the Now, times have changed we cant go to the yards anymore 15 deep with food and 40's. Who here is not pissed off about that? We do what we can and some of us do way more than others.

 

 

The game here is bigger than a city's system, the Freight trains have connected American graffiti the same way the tracks connected American cities when they were laid down. Freight train graffiti has lead to the Networking of writers from all different parts of the continent Canada and Mexico included. Kids might not be painting as many panels these days, but every single freight line in the country is running smashed out right now with layers of paint on them.

 

And finally, when the subways were really getting destroyed it was because they were running and people expected their names to run across the city forever or until they got capped. They dont run anymore, most people moved on to things that do, we dont rage on our systems because we hate our oppressive governments,

 

 

 

P.S. A DONDI blaclbook sketch is better than the best thing European graffiti has ever produced. Who the fuck are you Dondi is graffiti.

 

 

read newbie read. where did i say i dont paint anymore ;-)

 

to get political: you should rage on your oppressing goverment. you are living orwells 1984 without knowing it...

 

my point. dondi is graffiti yes and seeing it on a freight wouldnt do it for me understand now??

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zed said it best..

 

stapler, what do you want again?..no one answered your questions yet?..

 

 

"i just dont understand is the dedication and the fact that you people rate painting freights simular to that of cleans."

 

is this all you dont understand?..dont type a whole paragraph bitching about someone in america behind a screen name typing "uptight", or that you can speak for "99% of the euros"..next time, just write your question..or find an american writer in person, not online, and ask them..peace

 

my questions are answered.

and thanx for the abuse and the entertainment always nice to see i get cut down for a few words on a screen 2pac listening style wars watching euro toy HAHAHAHA no clue, really no clue thats the funny part.

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this argument is apples and oranges in two seperate locations.

 

you can hardly compare cleans here to cleans in europe, and you're trying to compare cleans there to freights here, no matter how much you argue, you cant do it.

 

 

So stop trying.

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USA the country that gave birth to graffiti but descended down to a scene that paints (mostly crappy) pieces on rolling garbage cans....

 

With thousands and thousands of passengertrains available all over the country, several subway systems waiting to get properly bombed and you guys focus on freights?

 

Taking the piss at euros and their designer paints....

 

If you look deep down dont you agree you people just lost the plot??

 

Why all this above??

 

I think if you are a REAL writer at heart you should be fucking ashamed hitting those rolling pieces of shite.

 

graffiti is about getting up and getting know on rolling stock that transports people not rolling stock that transports crates of rice....

 

yes i am euro and yes there are places in europe that are so chill to hit you can bring 20 friends and a BBQ but the majority of the systems that are hit, being local trains, national trains or subway systems are guarded, heavily guarded and still EVERY day phatt e2e's are done, WC's are done, and plain panels... i dont even mention those.

 

How many of your crew mates can say they hit over 15 different subway systems? How many of your friends travel EVERY year to various countries to do what they have to do? How many of your friends have done hundreds even thousands of PROPER FC pieces on trains...

 

When was the last time you saw a guard sitting in a tree overlooking a yard spotting for paint fumes? when was the last time dogs were set loose on you? when was the last time you were shot at while painting?

 

Dont gimme this BS about "beanching freights" so get you fucking act together and put your money where your mouth is because the days of US hegemony on graffiti are long gone

 

and beforehand: dont reply with fucking euro toy this or that because i started painting before most of you were even born :-)

 

First of all there is this thing called the patriot act you fucking retard, so if you are crazy enough to hit a transit system in america and then get caught they can not only one throw breaking and entering at you but a possible attempt of terrorism due to that whole shitty act that no one really read through.

Second times change, and me personaly dont see bad freights because to me seeing writers from different areas and their style is a learning experience for me no matter how bad the graffiti is.

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Yeah ghost they are snapping like fucking dobermanns.

fuck me i am enjoying myself. And i see you sitting there all smiling cos you know who i am ;-))

 

anyway: keep painting people and when ever your mom always you overseas drop me a pm so you have a place to crash & and paint a proper train. no hard feelings ;-) rock on

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its kinda simple cities get buffed usually with in 2 weeks unless you find a good spot, a lot of cities don't have cleans only a select few of the larger one and they get buffed pretty quick too, but a freight usually rolls forever unless you get stamped for going over numbers.

This Yank loves freights with RUSTO (emphasis on rusto), go have some tea and crumpets and listen to The Streets albums. No hate I just love talkin shit

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actually rusto nowadays isn't the same as it used to be..I remember days when cascade green or adobe or avocado got on my hand and that shit stayed for days, even after scrubbing with turpentine..

it's all watered down now..for the enviornment lol...

 

global warming - graffiti cares...

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