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"This brings to a formal conclusion my criminal defense which began when I was arrested on September 1st, 2007 at a Circuit City for refusing to provide a police officer with my driver’s license. The fact that my charges were dropped reaffirms the assertion which I’ve made since the beginning: US citizens are not and should not be required to provide paper identification when asked by law enforcement, in most circumstances. In Ohio this right is specifically protected by Ohio Revised Code 2921.29 which states that a person may not be arrested for refusing to provide a law enforcement officer with anything other than a verbal representation of their name, address and date of birth. In other words, if you are walking along a sidewalk and a police officer has reason to question you, you must verbally state your name, address and date of birth, but you can’t be arrested for refusing to show your driver’s license. (Or for that matter your fishing license, marriage license, liquor license, etc.)"

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Well then you can be ARRESTED for anything. Because legally all police are allowed to detain you for 48 hours while they determine what to charge you with. Pretty much regardless of if they have any proof. The point I'm making is that there is no LAW on the books that says you're required to tell police anything more than your name, address, and DOB.

 

Yes there fucking is. It's called "failure to provide ID".

Detained and arrested are the same fucking thing. How the fuck are you getting the shit confused like it's two different things?

Whenever you get hemmed up first you're arrested, then you're charged.

Arrested and detained are the same fucking thing.

Please try and explain the difference between being arrested and being detained.

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I've already said thats fine. You totally win that side of the argument. Detained and arrested are the same thing You can be arrested. You're right. But you can't be CHARGED for that. But as far as being arrested and being detained being the same. You're right You win that argument. Are you stoked?

 

But being as that wasn't what I was arguing in the first place. Which was that you said there was a law that said you had to produce an ID to a police officer, There is no such law. You cannot go to court and be charged with "failure to produce an ID card"

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I've already said thats fine. You totally win that side of the argument. Detained and arrested are the same thing You can be arrested. You're right. But you can't be CHARGED for that. But as far as being arrested and being detained being the same. You're right You win that argument. Are you stoked?

 

But being as that wasn't what I was arguing in the first place. Which was that you said there was a law that said you had to produce an ID to a police officer, There is no such law. You cannot go to court and be charged with "failure to produce an ID card"

 

It's not a law that you can be arrested for not having your ID.

 

But you can be detained for not having your ID.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You kow what? Argueing with a retard is futile.

Hollerback = the knew Inkheadscrew.

Anybody feel like helping him break the 3 tampon record?

 

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I got popped for graffiti in Boston once and started freakin out since I was already on probation, for graffiti, back home. I was pretending to be real drunk and sick so the cop left me uncuffed in his car for a few, and I used that opportunity to stash my ID and cards in my sock, since its always a 50/50 shot if cops are gunna check the bottom of your feet or not.

 

Anyways, I got arrested and back to the station and made it about halfway through the booking process using my uncle's name, until thy found a fuckin Old Navy card in my wallet that I had missed. My own fault, got caught slippin

 

The good part was that after that they still didn't get my RI record when they ran my background check. The bad part was that an overzealous cop ran a better one on his own and brought my record to one of my pre-trial hearings. At that point I gave up fighting the charge and just copped the plea ha....actually, I think I'm off probation there this month

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man, i got a dui this summer. crashed into some parked cars, when i saw the lights behind me i was just like "fuck it" i didnt even wanna look for my license. pretty much stuck my hands out like, fuck a test man. lets just get this over with.

 

you got way more steez.

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i think there is a small different between detained and arrested.

 

 

for example, "the cop thought i had warrants so i got detained today. after a background check at the station i was released."

 

vs "i was selling drugs in the park today and was arrested by plain clothes officers. i was taken to the station, processed, charged, and i am in jail currently while awaiting trial.

 

 

detained is like a pussy stint, never more than 5 hours. arrested is being popped for a serious charge and facing formal criminal charges and penalties.

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i think there is a small different between detained and arrested.

 

 

for example, "the cop thought i had warrants so i got detained today. after a background check at the station i was released."

 

vs "i was selling drugs in the park today and was arrested by plain clothes officers. i was taken to the station, processed, charged, and i am in jail currently while awaiting trial.

 

 

detained is like a pussy stint, never more than 5 hours. arrested is being popped for a serious charge and facing formal criminal charges and penalties.

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if being a man means have my car impounded and siezed, (costing me 2000), plus doing 2 weeks in martinez prison plus another 1000 in fines and a 6 month extension of my driver suspension than give me a victorias secret gift card cus im switching up.

 

 

trust me, trruuuuust me, i do not purposely break laws and act like some outlaw renegage, well maybe i do, but i have my reasons. there is NO public transportation where i live, california suburbs, nothing out here. my commute by public transit would take a 1.5 hour each way easily. a cab ride is 50 roundtrip, each day. by contrast, driving takes 15 minutes each way through back roads that cops rarely frequent. i was really slipping when i was driving today. i let myself get in front of the cop, stupid, i should have slowed down and let him pass in front. i was coming off a tough vicodin binge and strep throat the night before, i wasnt 100%. somehow i still managed to lie my ass outta that whole situation.

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that story made me really nervous

i have developed this fear...if you could even really call it fear for the police.

everytime i see a cop i watch him or her drive by until they are out of sight

and i think about all the illegal things i could be doing but i am lucky enough to not be doing them when they drive by

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You shouldn't watch them. If they see you constantly eyeing them in your mirror, they use that as probable cause to pull you over and find out why you're so nervous.

 

I ended up getting popped once because my girl kept looking back all nervous and shit (even though I repeatedly told her to not do that).

The cop even wrote in his report that that was the reason why he pulled me over.

 

But yeah, I think most of us have the same phobia of cops. Where you get all nervous and shit just seeing them driving behind you.

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you know that cops be running plates all day. just for driving down the block and looking wrong will get your plates run. cops will pull you over if your registered address is very far from where you are at. they love catching warrants, suspended licenses, driving while drunk/high, they love those kind of charges. have your registration all good if you wanna drive in america now, having that first line of "credibility" defense is god in preventing car searches and unwannated questioning.

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