BELTOLEUM Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Who here think the invites system should be brought back??? it is amazing the amount of people that joined since the invites were gone and i think it is getting out of hand with all the new people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 yeah... I think maybe opening the board for a short period of time every few months but leaving it invite only the rest of the time would be good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 do you guys want this to be some old folks fucking retirement website and shit? let who ever wants to come, come. if they like graffiti let them come. if n00bs act up. pwn them and let them keep talking. fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Who here think the invites system should be brought back??? it is amazing the amount of people that joined since the invites were gone and i think it is getting out of hand with all the new people. BELTOLEUM Member Posts: 526 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Murder City Status: Online :confused: :confused: :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seffiks Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 lets learn how to use our prop buttons, like make only certain people have prop power ( sort of like a secondary moderator for the regular users to control the n00bs example: a handful of people that are not mods that are here a lot and know the rules or have seniority over areas of the message board they should be the only ones with prop power to hand out or take away prop points whoever gets to the red tampon stage gets banned by a mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 where do i apply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 like dudes like that guy Davak and a few others maybe deserve to be e-pounded and banned. but not all the n00bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I would encourage you to do exactly the opposite. Noobs inevitably will have some learning to do through trial and error, but established members should know the deal and should be not only setting the example, but also providing counter-suckage in the form of good threads. I've seen a lot more shitty threads by regular members (daily) than noobs (every once in a while). Ch.0 quality isn't brought down by the occasional noob thread, it's brought down by the rest of us posting tons of mediocre ones. Like this one. Everyone hated on me for pointing out that this place was falling off, but you can't deny that there's more new people around making moves....some better, some worse. So, what are you going to do about it? Bitch and moan and say "CHANGE IT BACK!!!", or explain to the new arrivals how things work around here? Because if you bitch and moan, I guarantee you I'll go dig up posts where you did the exact same thing to me and Seffiks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotclone Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think that when enough members call for a banning someone should get banned, like in the instance of DAVAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 the only way that the invite should be brought back is if it cost to much money from all the new activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtime Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 i think us green people should have more power, POWER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
After School Special Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 CAN WE PLEASE STOP THESE ANNOYING ASS THREADS? IF YOU ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE INTERNET, DO SOMETHING ELSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 i think us green people should have more power, POWER! cosign* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 the invite system was tried. most of us didn't like it so raven brought the old style back. he makes the decisions and spends the money... i dono, i like the influx of retards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 the only way that the invite should be brought back is if it cost to much money from all the new activity. Ah, good point. I thought about this, too. The way I see it, since Raven sells advertising on the site he needs to have good Alexa numbers to show how much traffic the site gets. So, while more traffic means more bandwidth costs, it's also making the Alexa rating of 12 oz. go up, so advertisers will think, "Hey, good place to put a banner ad!" Then, Raven gets paid, and the cycle repeats. Let's try this. Anyone who has been here for a year knows the difference between "fail" and "win". Let's try not being total dicks to new people right off the bat, and encourage more "win" through explanation and example. That way, the content improves and everyone is happy. It's called "giving people the benefit of the doubt". However, some people aren't going to get it right away. Those are the ones that you razz until they get with the program. If they don't, and they want to stick around and get abused, hey...that's their call. Also, I don't know if the thread me and Seffiks started got the forum opened again, but if it did, I'm glad. Not to mention the fact that we tried to make our case sound thought out and logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 im a dick. but to the ones who deserve it. after they proved to at least me that they are a fucking retard. but yeah pretty much what you said sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacuum cleaner Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 iawtc, after school... beltoleum, you live in detroit. go paint it so the thead doesn't look like shit. detroit's thread looks like pure garbage, minus a few out of towners making the place look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Plus, invites didn't work. I remember plenty of new people getting ran out of here in the past three months. What spectr said is a good idea (have invites most of the time but limited open registration ala Demonoid), but I'm not going to ask Raven to do anything for a while. Frankly, you're barking up the wrong tree if you think this forum being open or closed is the reason it's not working for you. I finally realized that it's what I post and how I present myself that makes a difference, no matter how small. You want to make a difference, BELTOLEUM? Find people you want to be part of 12 oz and tell them to sign up, then come up with some good content. That's how it's done. Asking for Raven to change the board to suit your taste is going to get you a lot of unwanted attention. I found that out the hard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ah, good point. I thought about this, too. The way I see it, since Raven sells advertising on the site he needs to have good Alexa numbers to show how much traffic the site gets. So, while more traffic means more bandwidth costs, it's also making the Alexa rating of 12 oz. go up, so advertisers will think, "Hey, good place to put a banner ad!" Then, Raven gets paid, and the cycle repeats. Let's try this. Anyone who has been here for a year knows the difference between "fail" and "win". Let's try not being total dicks to new people right off the bat, and encourage more "win" through explanation and example. That way, the content improves and everyone is happy. It's called "giving people the benefit of the doubt". However, some people aren't going to get it right away. Those are the ones that you razz until they get with the program. If they don't, and they want to stick around and get abused, hey...that's their call. Also, I don't know if the thread me and Seffiks started got the forum opened again, but if it did, I'm glad. Not to mention the fact that we tried to make our case sound thought out and logical. honestly, if these kids can't take the time to look around the board for a few minutes and explore it... if they can't take the time to contribute to a few threads in a positive way... and not make total jackasses of themselves then fuck them... its the internet, I understand that it allows the human race to show how truly retarded it can be... But seriously should we babysit new members and explain to them how to not act like a retard on the internet... Fuck no... if they don't know how to do it then they are on their own.. Though I do agree 12oz can be a little harsh from time to time... So maybe if we had a new section to encourage new members to post in, where people could give them positive feedback, and would be discouraged from just being complete assholes to new members.. that would help the newer members out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 The Yard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
After School Special Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I love the yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 The Yard? no not the yard.. Have you been to the yard? I am sorry, some of those people need some serious help... Sometime I even end up being an asshole in the yard... when someone posts something like this wut shuld i put in mi etch 2 mak it stane how can you not just want to grab then and beat them into a pulp like their parents should have years before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 ohhh shit that post made me fuck LAUGH OUT LOUD but thats exactly what you are trying to say. they go out of their way to act stupid. and its stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Or maybe a ch0 rules list, with things not to post, how to post a thread, the fact that we are going to demand pictures if its something interesting and be upset if you don't deliver on them, etc etc... just give the newer members a heads up.. The yard honestly is one of the most amusing places on 12oz... though every once in a while there is some kid who asks a decent question... but there are to many kids like the one I just posted... No I was think like a whole new section for new members... something like new members post here... let it be a mix of sections.. and if the thread is good, and gets a good response from the rest of the OZ and the newer members then move it to crossfire, ch0, the yard, untitled, or wherever it would belong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELTOLEUM Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 BELTOLEUM Member Posts: 526 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Murder City Status: Online :confused: :confused: :confused: i have been on here since 2005. i got banned once so i had to make a new name. yea the yard does get out of hand cause all of the new people just make stupid less threads instead of searching the marker and ink thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 but still. read the thread. see what we are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBench Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 do you guys want this to be some old folks fucking retirement website and shit? let who ever wants to come, come. if they like graffiti let them come. if n00bs act up. pwn them and let them keep talking. fuck em. cosigned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELTOLEUM Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 i did read it and now that i think about it i agree that the open to all is good. but people in my cities thread all joined within the last week and it is turning to shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This is my name Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I say bring it back but then again what do I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Haha, the Yard. I posted a LOT of good info in the Yard over the years. I wonder how many brain cells I killed and how many carpets I ruined indirectly. It seems like a lot of people aren't going through the Yard/Brickslayers/Channel Zero progression anymore...like, you get tired of one, then move on. Now, I see a lot of new people just starting out in Channel Zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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