Virgins and Vegans

[Poesia [ ] T]

Nah Just Virgins Thought the Title would bring in more Viewers.

 

For Guy Virgins: Basic Things No One Told Me About Sex

 

I lost my virginity later than the average guy. Before I got laid for the first time I had read a fair amount about sex. I took Sex Education classes in school. I read articles on positions and techniques in Maxim and Cosmo. I read sites like www.sexuality.org. I read the Savage Love column every week. I also looked at tons of porn on the internet and through my PlayStation 2's handy DVD player. All in all, I thought even though I had never done it myself, I knew most of what there was to know about sex.

Then I started having it and I kept discovering all these basic things that had somehow passed me by. In all the stuff I read and watched these things never came up. I never heard anyone talking about them either. I guess they assumed that the audience was already having sex and that knowing these things was a given. And it seems that porn glosses some things over or does not reflect what actual sex is like. I know, I'm as shocked as you are. So here's my list of basic sexual stuff that I only found out about when I came across it myself.

Hopefully reading this will make life easier for the virgins out there in some way, you know, by lessening that fear of the unknown or whatever. I think the most common theme below is that sex is not as glamorous as it's sometimes made out to be. However, 'not glamorous' isn't the same as 'not enjoyable'. Sex is awesome. If anything, all the little quirks I'll mention below make it more fun.

Positions

 

From reading and watching porn I thought positions like missionary, doggy style, woman-on-top, etc. were simple, cut-and-dry things. I soon found out that each one has tons of subtle variations based on things like how you position your legs, the position of her legs, how deep inside her you are in a resting position, the angle you're thrusting in, the position of your upper body, how high or low your hips are on her body, how your bodies fit together, and so on and so on.

• With some variations her vagina will seem like a straight tunnel that you can easily go in-and-out, in-and-out of. With other variations you're mostly inside her, can only thrust a little, and you're more grinding pelvises together.

For example, if you're in the missionary position:

• If you put your legs together and straight back, you'll get a different feeling then if you had them spread out to your sides and had your knees further up on the bed.
  
• If she spreads her legs you'll be able to thrust in one way. If she lifts them up and wraps them behind your back, you'll be able to thrust deeper.
  
• If you rest on your elbows you'll enter her at one angle and be able to thrust in a certain way. If you straighten your arms and rest on your hands you'll thrust at a different angle.
  
• If the top of your hip bone roughly matches up with hers you'll get a certain angle and depth. If you try to 'ride higher' you'll get a different angle and depth.
  
• If your upper body is parallel to hers things'll go one way. If you raise your torso up to around 45 degrees things'll be slightly different.
  
• What works one way with a petite girl may not feel the same with a girl who's closer to your height.

The idea is you have to play around with these variations in position to find a way that feels good for both of you (or just you if you're selfish).

Vaginal lubrication

 

You probably know that the vagina secretes a natural lubricant and that women get 'wet'. I knew that basic fact too, but I learned some more things about the process firsthand.

• It runs out at some point and she'll get dry, and eventually uncomfortable, during sex. Sometimes you have to pull out and apply some lube. At other times you can keep going for a bit and she'll get wet again.
  
• If the girl gets too wet during sex it can reduce the friction to the point where you don't really feel anything. If she's too dry it doesn't feel that great for you either.
  
• If enough of it accumulates it has a whitish, mayonnaise look to it. Sometimes you'll finish having sex and when you pull out and look down you'll see a big drop of it running down between her legs.
  
• If you're going at in the missionary position, it may run out on to the bed and leave a wet spot on the sheets that's a bit white when it dries.

Erections

 

If you watch porn you may wonder why the guy's erection is sometimes slow to grow. You're thinking that if you were in his shoes you'd be as hard as a rock in a second.

• Nope, the same thing will happen to you. Once the intial thrill of hooking up with this girl/girls in general wears off, your erection will often start to get soft when your penis isn't being directly stimulated.
  
• Being drunk, being distracted, and bad technique on the girl's part can contribute to your not getting it up quickly.
  
• After putting on a condom you may need to jerk yourself off for a second to get it a bit harder before you stick it in her.
  
• If it's not hard enough you'll have a hard time putting it in. It'll tend to bend or slide out of the way instead of penetrating. However, if it's slightly soft and you manage to get in it, you can often get it harder quickly once you start thrusting.
  
• If the sex isn't great and/or you're distracted and/or something messed up happens you may start to go soft once you're inside her.

Sticking it in

 

You've probably heard jokes about this before. Yep, it can be hard to find the hole. Even if you know where you need to go visually, the vaginal entrance can be smaller and tighter than you think so you may not feel exactly where you need to insert the tip of your penis.

• With missionary it's fairly obvious where you need to put it, but if you're trying to guide it in blind then it can be awkward.
  
• With doggy style the hole is further up then you'd think.
  
• When the girl is on top the angle of her vaginal tunnel can give you problems and you can't really see what you're doing. It's best if she guides it in herself.
  
• Like I said above, if you're a bit soft then you can have trouble putting it in.
  
• If you fail to get it in properly your dick will slide somewhere else and may feel like it's in for a second or two.
  
• All this is more difficult if you have a condom on, as it's harder to feel what you're doing.

Climaxing

 

You may also watch porn and wonder why the guy sometimes has to jerk off for a few minutes before delivering the money shot. You're thinking if you were in that position you'd pop off no problem.

• Again, the same thing may happen to you. Sometimes you'll be having sex/getting a blowjob/jerking off and you won't be able to cum. If the stimulation isn't effective it can happen. If you put too much pressure on yourself to orgasm on demand it can happen.
  
• The more common stereotype is that men finish too quickly and that they have to think about stuff like baseball in order to last any real length of time. But not being able to cum happens too. Not all guys are losers who are done in thirty seconds. Finishing too soon definitely happens, but not every single time.
  
• In many cases you're not just going to cum instantly as soon as you start pounding away, you have to find the speed, angle, depth, etc. that feels good for you. It's not automatic, just like you can't just masturbate in any random way. You have to do what's effective for you.
  
• On a related note, women don't always want to have marathon sex sessions. Sometimes they'll get tired of the guy stabbing away endlessly, especially if it's not doing anything for them. Sometimes they'll start to get dry and sore. Sometimes they'll have an orgasm or two and think that's enough. Sometimes they'll just be happy with a good twenty minutes of fun sex and not have any need to go for longer.

Minor injuries

 

• It can be irritating to your skin when your sweaty pubic hair rubs against hers.
  
• Someone's hair my get accidentally pulled or caught.
  
• Someone may clumsily fall over as you're changing positions (e.g., when she's getting off you from being on top, when you try to transition from missionary with you kneeling and her laying down to missionary with both of you laying down).
  
• You may hit your head against the headboard, har har har.
  
• When you're going at it missionary style you can end up hitting the bottom of your bladder on her pelvic bone. That gets old after ten minutes...
  
• Your knees and elbows can get sore after a while from rubbing on the bed/floor/etc.
  
• During doggy style if you slip out and then accidently thrust back into her pelvis. This can hurt the tip of your dick.
  
• If she's riding you and you slip out she can come down on your dick. Usually it gets bent a little and hurts for a minute. At the worst you can rupture the tissue and take a trip to the hospital.
  
• You may get scratches, bruises, pulled hair (purposely this time), and bite marks. That's cool.
  
• You may fall off the bed or hit your elbow against the wall or something else like that. You just gotta laugh when this shit happen.

Condoms

 

First let me say that you should always wear these things despite what I say below. You know what can happen if you don't. You may have heard guys complain about condoms, saying they kill the mood or whatever. It's true, they are kind of annoying.

• They kill spontaneity. You can't smoothly progress from foreplay to sex. You have to stop the action to go grab a condom, open it, and then put it on.
  
• They smell bad.
  
• They kill sensation, sometimes to the point where you can barely feel your own dick inside the girl. On the plus side, they can allow you to last longer.
  
• Sometimes when you're inside the girl they'll bunch up in weird ways and feel strange.
  
• They interrupt the flow of things after sex is over. You have to pull out, take the condom off, and get rid of it.

Messiness

 

You probably know this already, but overall sex is messier than what you see on t.v. or in porn.

• You're going to get hot and sweaty of course.
  
• The woman's lubrication is going to dribble all over the place and possibly stain the sheets. Someone is going to get semen on them at some point. Condom wrappers are going to litter the ground. You may kiss passionately and slobber all over each other.
  
• Someone may let out a fart right in the middle of things.
  
• Sometimes when you pull out and she changes positions she'll fart out her vagina (queefing).
  
• If you finger her your fingers may be covered with a lot of her clear lubricant when you pull them out. You may have to wipe them off on your leg or something. Classy.
  
• If you have sex when she's on her period, well use your imagination.
  
• If you have anal sex you may get some poo on your dick.
  
• If you have a good session, when you're done you're going to be sweaty, red faced, tired, and a bit out of it. Your hair will be messed up, gross stray hairs will be stuck to your skin, the girl will have a bit of white lubricant running out of her cootch. You'll have a bit of cum dribbling out of your dick. There will be at least one condom wrapper on the floor, the sheets and pillows will be all over the place, and the bed will have a wet spot on it. If you cuddle afterwards you'll start to stick together and it'll feel gross when you pull apart. It's great.

General differences from masturbation and porn

 

If I had to give a simplified summary I'd say masturbating is all about the visuals while actual sex is more about physical feelings. Of course masturbation is about the physical feelings too, but if you're anything like me, the visuals drive the experience and provide most of the excitement. When you're using your imagination you keep flipping between different scenarios until you hit on one that does it for you. When you watch porn you probably skip around between different DVD scenes or online clips until you hit on one that turns you on the most.

With sex some positions give you something to look at, but you're hardly sitting in a chair watching a scene that has been shot from a distance and angle that gives you a good view. If you're doing a girl in the missionary position you're too close to her to see anything. Your eyes are probably closed, or if they're open they may not be focused on anything. You're probably kissing her or you may have your head nuzzled in her neck. Cut off from the visuals you instead concentrate on the tactile sensations; your dick going in and out of her vagina, your bodies pressed together, her hands scratching your back, her breath on your cheek, how hot you are, the sweat forming on the small of your back, your hands grabbing her boobs, kissing, and various little aches, tired spots, and discomforts. And then there are the sounds and smells; body parts slapping together, her breathing and moaning. The smell of latex, sweat, someone's breath, or her vag.

Of course, sometimes when you're going at it you'll be picturing things in your head to help yourself get off. Like maybe your girlfriend is going down on you and that feels pretty nice, but not quite perfect, so you imagine a porn scene or hot girl you saw the other day to get yourself over the edge.

Also, when you watch porn you can mistakingly associate the visual act you're witnessing with the sensations you're giving yourself. For example, say you have a thing for titty fucking scenes in porn. And let's say as you're watching, you're masturbating in a fast, intense manner. You know your body so of course it's going to feel good. But actual titty fucking probably doesn't feel like your fast, intense, just-right wanking. The true physical sensations may or may not be your cup of tea. You may find them too slow or soft for your tastes and be disappointed in the real thing. Here's another example: Maybe when you watch porn you really like the reverse cowgirl position (girl on top facing away from the guy). As a third party observer this position gives you something to look at. But when you're actually the guy all you see is the girl's back and, again, the sensations of her riding you aren't the same as the just-right wanking feelings you gave yourself when you were watching two other people doing it.

Some more observations about how real sex differs from porn and the movies

 

• Obviously in real life it's a lot more sweaty, clumsy, grunty, and primal than dramatic Hollywood love scenes make it out to be.
  
• In porn the positions are all about making the sex visable to the camera and to give you a good look at the woman's body. In real life concerns such as being close to each other often take precedence.
  
• Personally I've never had sex under the sheets. They just get in the way.
  
• Personally I think having sex with all your clothes on kind of sucks (it's a bit awkward and skin on skin contact feels so much better), but you see it all the time in movies and t.v. shows (e.g., The Sopranos). Of course they've got other, more practical, reasons for portraying it like this.
  
• What amuses me in movies now is what you could call the 'instant penetration.' You see it all the time if you look for it. A man and woman will be in their underwear, or even fully clothed, in some sexually charged situation. Maybe the woman is sitting on the man's lap (both in their underwear remember), or the man is standing behind the woman. The camera is focused on their faces. Then the guy will make a little movement, the woman will gasp, and then they'll close their eyes and start moaning, the implication being that the man achieved vaginal penetration off-camera. Yeah, not that quick and easy in real life. You've got to move your clothes out of the way, line things up, the guy has to be hard enough, the woman needs to be pretty wet, and often the man has to guide his penis in with his hand. Otherwise it's a much more awkward procedure.

[Decyferon]

12oz sex ed 101

 

nice post, glad it isn't any use to me tho!!

[KM4RT]

wait.........this didn't even mention cats, clown suits, or socket wrenches.

 

are me and my girlfriend doing something wrong?

[LIVERWURST*]

I think that every girl should get a blowjob 101 course somewhere along the line. Not that I'm the best ever on the return, but I had an older woman teach me about going down on women. From the guys perspective though, it's a hard conversation to have with a girl, like 'well that's good, but let's make it obvious that the last girl to do this was better than you by telling you what she did...'

[stunt double]

this is a pretty in depth treatise on sex...

 

i props'ed you just for typing all these observations.

[subcitizen]

man you really put alot of thought into this.

out of boredom i read through it though and i have to say nice job haha.

alot of this stuff is right on point. i caught myself laughing at memories of personal experiences during a few parts.

 

 

you talked about "vaginal lubrication" and how it can run down out of her when you finish, same thing applies if you bust inside of her. when she gets up a good portion of it is coming right back out, which is especially unattractive if she's on top and doesnt move quick enough so that it comes out on you. for some reason i wasnt expecting this at all the first time it happened. its a little gross.

 

it doesnt matter how many times your in these situations, your never prepared and always end up ruining a perfectly good t-shirt for lack of a better clean up method.

 

and leg cramps are a bitch too.

[Poesia [ ] T]

[Poesia [ ] T]

I cant take all the credit Heres the Link

 

http://www.datinggroundwork.com/sexbasics

[Sleeping Pills]

Someone may let out a fart right in the middle of things.

Sometimes when you pull out and she changes positions she'll fart out her vagina (queefing).

 

haha!

[SodaPopWario]

[subcitizen]

T;6018086']I cant take all the credit Heres the Link

 

http://www.datinggroundwork.com/sexbasics

 

 

hahah alright that makes a lot more sense. definitely could have been useful a few years ago though. im sure it could still help a few homies out on here.

[Poesia [ ] T]

This Site has so Much priceless other shit look at this one..

 

Taking Drastic Action To Get Sexual Experience If You Can't Do It Yourself

 

This article is inspired by a documentary program I watched a while ago called Virgin School. It followed a 26-year old virgin named James as he received treatment from a pair of sexual surrogates over the course of a few months. His therapy culminated in him losing his virginity to one of the women.

 

Sometimes older virgins get to the point where they take more drastic actions to get sexual experience and to put themselves on the road towards a more normal life. I've seen this topic debated quite often on discussion forums devoted to Involuntary Celibacy (i.e., Incel) and Social Anxiety. The most controversial question is whether it's worthwhile for a longtime virgin or "incel" to pay for sex. There are plenty of opinions to go around, both for and against.

 

On message boards focused on picking up girls and seduction, this topic is much more taboo. The unwritten consensus seems to be that if a virgin puts enough time and effort into learning how to pick up girls, then he'll reach his goal eventually. Paying for it would mean failing or giving up.

 

This article will discuss some of the more drastic actions a very sexually inexperienced guy may take if he feels he won't be able to meet his sexual needs the regular way (e.g., meeting, dating, and hooking up with a woman on his own). Here are the ones I can think of:

The two most discussed:

 

* Seeing a prostitute

* Entering therapy and seeing a sexual surrogate

 

And some other ones:

 

* Entering therapy for the purposes of working out your issues, getting over your fears, and learning new skills (but not receiving hands on help with your sexuality)

* Traveling to a country where it may be easier to meet women

* Using your culture to help you more easily get a woman

 

Reasons why someone may or may not want to take more drastic actions

 

There are middle-aged virgins out there, so not every person feels the need to do whatever it takes to get sexual experience. Some reasons I can think of for going this route, however, are:

 

* A person has reached an age where they just can't stand being inexperienced any longer.

* They want to move on to the next level in their lives. They don't want to remain stunted, perpetual adolescents regarding sex and relationships forever.

* By being a late-life virgin, they're in a situation where they've already received close to the maximum amount of stigma they can get. They feel they have nothing to lose by having their first time occur under less than glamorous conditions. They feel there's little practical difference between being, for example, a guy who lost his virginity at 34, and a guy who lost his virginity at 34 by paying for it.

* They've accepted that for whatever reason they can't acquire sexual experience on their own. They may just be too shy, anxious, unconfident, or socially awkward. They need outside help and don't have any qualms with seeking it.

 

Some reasons why someone may not be inclined to take "drastic actions", mostly in regards to paying for sex:

 

* They don't feel they could live with themselves if they were reduced to paying for sex. They feel they have to get it for themselves, or they're failures.

* They don't think just having sex once will solve anything. They want a relationship, and giving someone money to have sex with them doesn't accomplish that.

* While some guys place a lot of importance on losing their virgin status, others don't see how having sex one time will make much difference in their lives.

* They may have considered some of these actions, but feel too scared to do even that.

* They're worried about unwanted side effects, like catching an STD from a sex worker, being treated badly, being scammed, or generally coming out worse from the whole experience.

* They've created a comfortable rut for themselves, and don't feel up to trying to change their lives at the moment.

 

Seeing a prostitute

 

Most older virgins have probably contemplated hiring an escort. Even many sexually active guys who are in the middle of a bad dry spell have given it some thought. This is a really controversial topic. On one hand, seeing a prostitute is a sure-fire way for a guy to have a sexual encounter. It may be helpful for some individuals. But there's a big potential downside as well. The experience may not solve anything, and prostitution has a lot of sketchy baggage surrounding it. There's no easy answer to whether this is a good option:

Pros:

 

* You get to have sex. You get to lose your virginity and the burden that being one entails. You can do this more or less whenever you're ready to go through with it.

* You will get experience with some aspects of sex. It will lose its intimidating, mysterious quality.

* It may help break you out of that Catch-22 where you need experience to feel sexually comfortable around women, but you need sexual comfort to get experience in the first place.

* You can see prostitutes as often as you can afford, to get even more comfortable with sex.

 

Cons:

 

* Having sex once, or a handful of times, won't solve all your problems. You won't suddenly be able to enter into a relationship. Your social skills won't magically improve. Your anxieties won't melt away.

* Seeing a prostitute won't teach you anything about kissing, cuddling, intimate touching, or foreplay. Your standard prostitute 'package' involves oral sex and vaginal penetration. The sex will likely be impersonal and mechanical.

* Many people see paying for sex as pathetic and something only desperate losers do. You may not be able to handle the knowledge that you are one of those people. Also, others may think less of you if they found out you got sex in this way.

* Prostitution is illegal in many places. If you see a sex worker in those areas, there's always a risk of running into the law.

* There's a risk of catching an STD.

* There's a risk of being scammed, such as a "bait and switch" where you'll arrange for what you think is attractive girl to come to your house and an entirely different, less appealing woman will show up, hoping that you'll be too flustered, unassertive, or non-confrontational to turn her away. She may even use her driver to try and intimidate you into paying.

* There's a risk that the sex worker may disparage and humiliate you, for example by mocking your nervousness or clueness technique.

* Sex work has a generally sketchy vibe to it. You can't help but think of abusive pimps, runaway teens, drug addiction, histories of sexual abuse, desperation, and coercion.

* Even if she's not totally messed up, odds are the girl doesn't really want to be there. Not everyone wants to be with someone who is just going through the motions.

 

Some of these pitfalls are probably exaggerated somewhat (e.g., the risk of catching something is minimized in areas where workers are regulated and have frequent health checkups), but they're still totally legitimate reasons for being put off by the whole idea.

 

From reading various anecdotes it seems there are types of guys who do and don't benefit from paying for sex. Middle-aged virgins don't seem to get much out of it. Their problems are too great to be affected by a handful of paid encounters. And their issues are often about much more than the fact that they've never technically had sex, so having some of it won't cure them. Also, they're more likely to want a real partner, something seeing a hooker can't address. It's not uncommon to read accounts of unhappily celibate men who say, "I'm in my late thirties. I've never been in a relationship, though I have seen a handful of escorts over the years." Another common sentiment is that an older male who has never had sex and an older male who's had sex once with a prostitute are essentially the same thing.

 

There does seem to be a subset of guys who might get something out of seeing a sex worker:

 

* They feel they've been a virgin for too long and want to lose it however they can. They think they'll be happier with the monkey off their backs.

* They feel held back mainly by their lack of sexual familiarity. They're overly anxious and intimidated around women as a result, and worry about being exposed and inadequate when the time comes to be intimate with one. They feel that if they could just see what sex was like, the other pieces would fall into place.

 

I've read a handful of anecdotes from guys in this situation. One had some opportunities to lose his virginity, but kept blowing them. Eventually he got impatient with struggling to get sex on his own, threw in the towel, and visited a brothel. After experiencing what sex was like, and that it was no big deal, he had an easier time meeting women in the future. He was happy with his decision, but other people pointed out that if he was that close, he could have been months away from getting it himself anyways.

 

So yeah, controversial topic. On one hand you've got the potential for instant gratification - the option is always there - but there are a host of potential pitfalls. The next option also isn't for everybody, but doesn't have as many negative aspects.

Seeing a sexual surrogate

 

This section is mainly a summary of what I've learned about the practice from various online sources. I'm sure I've got a detail or two wrong. If you want more information yourself, check this site: International Professional Surrogates Association

 

A sexual surrogate is someone who works in conjunction with a therapist to help a client with their sexual difficulties. The surrogate is 'hands on' and fills in for the role of a regular partner. The majority of people who see them are men. Late-life virgins and premature ejaculators are the most common clients.

 

The guy in the documentary Virgin School sees a pair of sexual surrogates, and if you can track down a copy of the show, you can get a sense of what it's like.

 

The surrogate may do sexual things with the client, but that's only a small portion of what seeing one entails. Depending on the client's needs, no sex at all may occur. A larger proportion of time is devoted to discussing issues, gaining familiarity with touching and intimacy, sexual education, and learning social, communication, and lifestyle skills. In later sessions, if the client will seem to benefit, the surrogate may engage in kissing, foreplay, manual stimulation, and oral and penetrative sex. In all cases, the goal of these physical acts is to help and teach the client, not for him to "have a good time." The therapy may be rewarding as a side effect, but it's not intended to be like a visit to a prostitute, where the interaction is focused around the man getting sexual pleasure.

 

Surrogate therapy progresses gradually. Typically the client will see them for an hour a week, for around thirty hours in total. A more intensive 1-2 week schedule will occur if no surrogate lives in the area, and the client has to travel to see her. Things start slow and gradually ramp up to more "advanced" activities, for lack of a better word. Throughout the whole process, the client also continues to see his regular therapist to discuss how he's progressing, and to talk over any issues that the surrogate therapy has brought up. The psychological and emotional aspects of the client's problems are addressed as well, it's not only about getting used to touching a woman firsthand.

 

The surrogate may not be the client's ideal physical type, but this can be useful as well. An inexperienced man may have overly picky or superficial requirements in what he looks for in a woman. Being with a less-than-perfect female allows him to learn more about what 'real' sex is like, and that someone's physical appearance isn't the only factor that's important in intimacy.

 

Sexual surrogates themselves report that some of their clients go on to have happy lives and relationships, though not all do. Virgin School closes by telling the audience that James has not had sex again since losing his virginity to the surrogate. It's that same old story, just having sex once won't magically throw your life into order. The biggest issue for past clients of surrogates is navigating the dating world and meeting women on their own. Some of them still have problems to work out in that area.

Seeing a therapist about related issues

 

An inexperienced guy may not want to sign up for sexual surrogate therapy, but may feel that seeing a mental health professional will help him get over issues such as a lack of self-confidence, past hurts, general anxiety, specific fears, and a lack of social skills. Addressing these concerns may indirectly help his problems with women.

 

Seeing a therapist is the right choice for many people. It's not nearly as controversial as paying for sex (with either a prostitute or a trained surrogate), but it still carries a stigma in the minds of some people. They see seeking help from a counselor as a sign of weakness or personal failure. You can't just see any therapist either, you need to take some care in order to choose someone who you click with and who seems like they can improve your situation. Another downside is the cost. Not everyone can afford to pay for regular sessions. The same issues applies to sex surrogate therapy as well.

 

There are different schools of therapy, with medication also being an option. I won't get into them here as this article is more an overview of different "drastic options".

Traveling somewhere where it may be easier to meet women

 

Most Western guys who have gone to Japan to teach English will tell you that it's easy to hook up with Japanese girls. Not only that, but a nerdy guy who wouldn't be looked at twice in his home country can do quite well for himself there. Other countries have similar reputations. For whatever reason, a guy's stock is higher in those places.

 

Traveling can also increase your opportunities if you go to a fun, party vacation spot. I experienced this when I went backpacking in Australia. I had more opportunities to meet women not because I was Canadian and all the girls automatically loved me because of my accent or whatever, but because I was meeting so many other travelers as I jumped from hostel to hostel. Everyone was away from home and looking to have a good time. It's hard not to do better when you have the situation working with you like that.

 

Another factor is that sometimes foreign women don't seem as intimidating. They don't have all the baggage attached to them that women from back home do. They may even have positive stereotypes attached to them that makes approaching them less stressful.

 

Finally, no one knows you in the other country. At home you may have felt constrained by the expectations and assumptions other people had about you.

 

Traveling like this could be an option for some guys, mainly younger ones who don't have other commitments and feel brave enough to tackle the change that goes with visiting a totally different culture. Traveling is also a worthwhile experience for it's own sake.

Using your culture to help you more easily get a woman

 

This one will be more obscure to the site's Western readers. I've known a few guys who were originally from places like West Africa or India. While living in Canada they had no luck with women, and eventually fell back to their cultural traditions in order to be provided with one. I knew one West African guy who moved back to a small village in his home country to enter into an arranged marriage with a girl there. The Indian guy did something similar and asked his family to find him someone.

[crime stoppers]

that was a good read. i laughed my ass of when you mentioned "missing the hole and finding another," that fucks up a mood so bad.

[lord_casek]

wait.........this didn't even mention cats, clown suits, or socket wrenches.

 

are me and my girlfriend doing something wrong?

 

no midgets, no cooking oil, and no lettuce.

[LIVERWURST*]

It isn't love if lettuce ins't involved.

[subcitizen]

that was pretty interesting as well Poesia. the first post was just funny because of how accurate it was. hopefully theres not too many middle-aged virgins on here who can relate to the rest of it. its kinda weird to imagine theres enough guys out there debating those issues for someone to write that up. what the hell were they doing in highschool/college when the girls were just giving it away?

[Poesia [ ] T]

that was pretty interesting as well Poesia. the first post was just funny because of how accurate it was. hopefully theres not too many middle-aged virgins on here who can relate to the rest of it. its kinda weird to imagine theres enough guys out there debating those issues for someone to write that up. what the hell were they doing in highschool/college when the girls were just giving it away?

 

Probably something like this.

 

[subcitizen]

hahah oh man. guy on the left is creeping me the fuck out. but i'd bet your right.

[lord_casek]

[Prime Chaos]

hahaha

[Dawood]

what a bunch of weirdos, you couldn't convince me and my boys to dress up like that and take a picture for ANY reason..what the hell are they thinking?

[Mauler5150]

not too bad. I found it funny, but this is seriously some shit you don't learn from jsut watching porn.

[El Mamerro]

The first time I went down on a girl was a real eye opener for me. I was going at it like a champ, knowing I was kicking ass, building up until the girl started convulsing and trembling, and oh boy was I ready for it.

 

Next thing I know I'm hearing a VERY loud, wet farting sound right on my mouth, and something splashing all over my chin. I seriously thought this girl had just taken a shit on my face. I had no idea how to handle the situation. I must've stared at her vagina for like 30 seconds before I did anything, with all sorts of reactions going through my mind, including spitting back at her vagina and kicking her out while throwing shit. It wasn't until I decided to wipe my hand on my chin and look at it that I realized she just had a major queef orgasm.

 

I carried on with my business, but boy was that a surprise. Totally not ready for it.

[Frate_Raper]

The first time I went down on a girl was a real eye opener for me. I was going at it like a champ, knowing I was kicking ass, building up until the girl started convulsing and trembling, and oh boy was I ready for it.

 

Next thing I know I'm hearing a VERY loud, wet farting sound right on my mouth, and something splashing all over my chin. I seriously thought this girl had just taken a shit on my face. I had no idea how to handle the situation. I must've stared at her vagina for like 30 seconds before I did anything, with all sorts of reactions going through my mind, including spitting back at her vagina and kicking her out while throwing shit. It wasn't until I decided to wipe my hand on my chin and look at it that I realized she just had a major queef orgasm.

 

I carried on with my business, but boy was that a surprise. Totally not ready for it.

 

 

I tell my girl on the regular, you squirt on my face I get to super soak you back.....................I lie..I'd pay good money for a facial from a girl hahaha

[the.crooked]

haha.

[Spitfire15]

Mams. Youve told that story like 3 times and it never gets old.

[El Mamerro]

Haha, that's true. As I was writing I was like "I feel like I've written this before"...

 

This is probably the thread where it fits the best though.

[RELAPSER]

word.

 

i've definitely got some messed up tshirts now, always right there at the bottom cuff of it too.

[Fist 666]

that would have been great stuff to have as a young buck. thats the stuff they should teach in highschool.

 

instead of making it a taboo that everyone is going to do anyways, educate them on how to do it safe and well.

 

first time i went down on a girl my face was so deep in jungle bush i couldn't have been doing a thing for her. it was horrible.

[Mensa]

^^You know toe cutter's lurking on here