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I think we should open it back up to the public.

 

The props thing is a joke. It dosen't really matter. Kids created a thread to get props...so whatever.

 

The VIP supports the site, so that needs to stay.

 

Clowning on new members...uhh, if they act like dumbasses, then its going to happen, but some kids are cool.

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Ya'll are making too big of a deal about a website anyway in my opinion.

 

I just hop on in between sleeping and going out to shoot the shit or look at some flicks.

 

In the past 5 years not much has changed besides some of the people who post. Not many of the new people ever stayed around so I don't think we're missing too much having the invite system.

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You can say whatever you want, but...the reason I spend a lot of time here is because my work allows me to. Also, the antique laptop I use can't do much more than look at the web and chat.

 

I spend time here because I know people here. I like everyone here (for the most part), but I want to see 12 oz. thrive, not just survive.

 

And, I wouldn't invite anyone who has been banned back. I also think that if the board was reopened and they came back THEN acted stupid, then ban away.

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i find it odd that people get hung up on the whole props thing

 

 

nobody i have ever propped takes it serious. its just another dimension of the time wasting that goes on when logged into 12oz. not really a life or death situation here. you're not better for having props, and you're not better for being aganist having props.

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too many idiots would sign up and i like how a cop cant just sign up..hes gotta have an invite

 

^Truth.

 

I see where dude's comming from about this turning into a retirement home in a few years though.

Especially if we keep hazing newcomers just on the GP that they're a noob.

Maybe save the hazing for the idiots and people will actually want to invite their boys.

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In the interest of honesty and fairness, this was My idea with someone ghostwriting, ( if that person wishes to unveil him/herself go right ahead)

I hope others will agree with this logic

 

what, they're too much of a pussy to have an opinion?

 

 

Frankly, we're getting bored with 12 oz. When we first came here, it felt like it was a community, and now it seems more like a country club. If you aren't a member, you get treated like rabble and made fun of. if you are a member, you get judged by your status in the community based on an arbitrary system that doesn't really mean a hell of a lot now that there's a way to cheat at it. It used to be that people were respected mostly for what they said and how they said it, but now it's all about how many props you have and how hard you can clown on people.

 

wait, people are taking props seriously? holy crap you're a bunch of sad losers.

 

Well, that's not right, and it's pissing some of us off.

 

i think i just shed a tear :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i didn't even read the rest because it was boring and probably written by someone who's been here a year.

 

 

 

 

ebbs and flows my friends. the forum has gone through ups and downs ever since it's inception. the quality of the content on this site is up to you, the member. if 12oz sucks you've got yourself to blame. the "good old days" you all yearn for came and went long before the majority of you got here.

 

quit crying like a bunch of bitches. it's a website. sheesh. all this poll tells me is that it's been about 6 months since the last time someone posted one.

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i dont think its dieing.

i see the same things going down.

people getting made fun of, stupid threads, funny pics being posted, noobs popping up every now and then.

 

you guys should just start passing out those invites. prefferably to people who whould participate and stay.

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The irony here is that some of the oldest members here seem to care the least about this.

 

You're not getting bored? You don't notice the difference between Channel 0 three, four years ago and now?

 

This isn't a knock on the new members, but Channel 0 was a lot different back then.

 

And, why is it when I say that I care about what happens here, certain people get defensive and start saying that if I care, I have no life?

 

I can be honest about what Channel 0 means to me. I made some friends here, and I want to keep making new friends here.

 

Frankly, I'm surprised and a little disappointed, but I won't let that ruin my day.

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i dont think its dieing.

i see the same things going down.

people getting made fun of, stupid threads, funny pics being posted, noobs popping up every now and then.

 

you guys should just start passing out those invites. prefferably to people who whould participate and stay.

 

 

Word.

 

Like ABC said, ebbs and flows. Ups and downs.

I also think this year got off to a good start for the most part.

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what, they're too much of a pussy to have an opinion?

 

 

 

 

wait, people are taking props seriously? holy crap you're a bunch of sad losers.

 

 

 

i think i just shed a tear :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i didn't even read the rest because it was boring and probably written by someone who's been here a year.

 

 

 

 

ebbs and flows my friends. the forum has gone through ups and downs ever since it's inception. the quality of the content on this site is up to you, the member. if 12oz sucks you've got yourself to blame. the "good old days" you all yearn for came and went long before the majority of you got here.

 

quit crying like a bunch of bitches. it's a website. sheesh. all this poll tells me is that it's been about 6 months since the last time someone posted one.

 

Jeez, ABC. You should have read the whole thread.

 

I wrote it. Mainter posted it.

 

I wasn't hiding behind anything, nor have I been here for "only a year". You know that.

 

As for me, I try to contribute something around here. I don't know whether that is appreciated or not. I'd like to think that it is. I think you contribute, as well.

 

As far as it being our fault, yes, it is. It's ALL of our faults.

 

So, we try to make some valid points by expressing our concern and now suddenly we're losers who care too much about a website? I feel like you should be encouraging people to talk about this. This affects YOUR forum, ABC.

 

We're trying to be proactive by initiating discussion.

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Some times ago when i came here and it was public i felt that there was a lot more banned people.

 

I think that's the good compromise: public and "real" control by the mods.

 

I first came on 12oz to go to Brickslayers and other pics threads but it became so boring and depressive (Like the NY thread were they are barely only posting 70's and 80's pics) .

 

It's good to have some older members like Shai to "moderate" the forums by his wise participation.

 

Ch.0 was my best experience on the Net after the Porn torrents sharing sites.

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i kinda like it better now.

i can go without reading posts and finding 50 'you fail' graphics in each thread but whatever.

 

to me my favorite 'era' of 12oz was 02-03. you had some real characters posting good shit.

some nightowls, fagbats, nips battles.

people were making an effort to bring heat to 12oz and get some e-props.

 

now people just want to do a google search and post stupid pictures.

or they swoon over the few ladies on here.

 

then again 12oz was probably a 1/4 of it's size now.

 

for about 2 years i hardly came on let alone posted.

 

it's actually better now, i see less kids signing up just talk shit on behalf of some other graffiti forum.

 

as far as harassing new jacks, this is the fuckin' internet. it's made for porn, gambling, and talking shit, everything else is just a by product. i remember when seeking was seeking innocence and would unlease his wit and shit talking ability on everyone.

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I have been on here a long time.

And.

It goes through phases.

Its the ebb and flow.

I do think tho that threads which aren't up to par should just be left to die as opposed to the endless grilling and fail pictures, they re boring. If a thread sucks you don't have to tell the rest of ch.0 that it sucks. Its boring. Yes, we know it is not a very good thread which is why I am not reading it. Comprende?

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I agree with the whole "props" thing. It's people who are pals online constantly hitting a button to give someone e-status, which though some of the folks who have a lot of props say they don't care about, you'll see a post here an dthere of them saying to actually give them "props" for something.

 

As far as the board going stale, I disagree and agree. I think closing the board id a good idea for safety, but I would say it's a fact that new people get ragged out by much "cooler" members who for some reason believe they are an integral component to the board, when it really just shows them to be some person who sits around all day replying to threads with useless information and posts just to get a post count up (but thats been happening for a long time and that happens with many boards. There are always those types of people out there who respond to boards).

I don't think the croad here is that great either that it only needs to be closed to these select people that are members now. I agree with the mods comment made by Shai Hulud as well, I mean cmon, how many personal messages as threads can be posted? It's funny that some of those dudes bash people for lame posts but are quite guilty of this themselves.

That said, there is a need for them, absolutely, but some of their abuse goes unchecked and in any good democracy, theres always someone to keep the power in check as well. This isn't a democracy though, its an internet graffiti message board.

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We're trying to be proactive by initiating discussion.

 

if you've been here any period of time you know this is the 15th time people have whined that the sites dying. is the site dead? no. and "initiating discussion" about it sucking doesn't make it suck less.

 

 

and frankly i don't fucking care about the state of the site right now. i go to the threads i go to, read the stuff i find interesting, then turn off the computer and do something else. i suggest other people try it. when you spend too much time here then of course it's going to get stale

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i have a love hate relationship with invites...

 

on one hand....i have 40 and i am literally trying my hardest to give them away...i have told about 6 or 7 people in the past couple weeks to join this forum (including females)...but i cant find people who are interested..

 

on the other hand...i dont want it easy for cops to get on here either.

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All we wanted was just to get the idea out there.

 

We can't put every new invite on automatic blast. If they royally fuck up, sure. Asking questions that seem retarded and mundane to us? I just answer the fucking question. How hard is that?

 

I'm not telling people how I think they should behave. Do whatever you want. You want to act like a jerk, that's your call.

 

When it's endemic, well...that's when I get concerned and act accordingly, because at some point it stops being funny.

 

I'm kind of glad that I don't know what other people think of Channel 0 elsewhere on the web, because I'd probably feel embarrassed.

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We can't put every new invite on automatic blast. If they royally fuck up, sure.

 

12oz has aaaallllllwwwwaaaaaayyyyyssssssss worked like that, way before the invites came along.

 

hell, the whole internet works like that. every single person on this website caught shit when they first joined. me included. now i fucking moderate the place. if some kid can't take the shit until they've established themselves as a member and shown they have a place here, then they can fuck right off. 12oz IS exclusive. graffiti IS exclusive. that's what makes it great. not everyone can just jump on in

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