Poop Man Bob Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Looks like Obama pulled the upset and raked in over 38% of the vote. Edwards comes in second; Clinton third. On the republican side, Huckabee won big over Romney, with Thompson and McCain fighting for third. Next came Paul. Lots more info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 ron paul ron paul ron paul!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Huckabee, laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoldmidwest Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 At the Ron Paul rally, Des Moines police had to escort out of the downtown Marriott a man who began addressing the crowd about fraud and Republican vote counting. I look up at this screen and it upsets me, said the man. As he was being taken out he identified himself as a private investigator named Clarence Malcolm. I'm telling you, it is corrupt, he said. Police said they did not arrest Malcolm, but said he would not be allowed to return to the event. -Des Moines Register Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 it is corrupt, that's why dr. paul isn't going to win. as much as i am for him, i know it won't go down. but, we can still hope and have faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'm pleasantly surprised to see that Ron Paul did considerably better than Mr. "Star-Power" Giuliani. I think this might be a sign that people are starting to look beyond the superficial qualities of the candidates and see where they stand on the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brown Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 was that chuck norris with huckabee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I was happy about the Obama win, but I fear it might have something to do with Iowa's close proximity to Chicago/Illinois. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Kinkaid Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 American politics are so confusing. What the hell is this all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'll try to explain this in less than five paragraphs. We're in the primary phase of the elections. Think of it as the regular season. There's fifty states...some of the states are swing states, which means that the vote can swing either way because the voters are equally spit between the Democrats and the Republicans. Then there's the spectator states, which solidly vote for one party. Campaigning in those states is not as aggressive on a party level, because that's in the bag. But, at the candidate level, it's competitive, because each wants to get as many votes as possible in states their party traditionally carries. You know what? You can research this through if you want, because I'm positive there's a much better explanation out there than the one I can provide...that, and I don't think I can break this down that quickly. Which is a nice way of saying that I don't feel like typing all this out. Suffice it to say, yes, it's confusing, and certain aspects of the American electoral process don't make much sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 politics are not on my my very short list of things i give a fuck about in 08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
count chocula Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 having a black president should provide a nice slap in the face for the majority of this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion>Ogre Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 This election is going to one of, if not the most important one there has been in a loooong time..And if the Iowa numbers reflect anything, it may be about Religion vs. Common Sense. Frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 the whole republican ticket just bothers the shit out of me... i pray to the lord and god of all creation one of them doesnt win the presidency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 props to obama! clinton is a communist, hates america, eats fetuses, and doesn't care about black people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 yeah F that B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 This election is going to one of, if not the most important one there has been in a loooong time..And if the Iowa numbers reflect anything, it may be about Religion vs. Common Sense. Frightening. Iowa numbers do not reflect much of anything most of the time. Usually the people who win Iowa do not go on to win the nomination. (McCain in 2000, Dean in 2004 the guy who beat Clinton in 92, Pat Buchanan and so on.) Not to say that if you win Iowa you lose. It's just that only 20% of the Iowa population participate in the caucus and do not really represent the mindset of the country at large. Also the odd way that they carry on the votes, public votes, ability to change votes, leads to a lot of trading and deals being made. Thats why you see so few votes for lower tier candidates, because the voters usually get persuaded to cast their vote for a more popular candidate. We will really see how things will end up in New Hampshire. I predict Ron Paul pulling in at least 20% in NH and other states. I'm not going to delude myself and say he is going to win it....Which would be fucking awesome if he did. What really puzzles me though is the number of votes Thompson got. Talk about a useless candidate, what the fuck does he stand for? All I hear about him on the news is about how people say how lazy he is. Being on TV and the movies can only take you so far....oh wait....nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shai_hulud Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Clinton would be better off campaigning as a progressive Republican. Talk about a slap in the face to old Bill...:lol: I like Edwards for the same reason I like Ron Paul. They both seem like they are fairly principled and they believe in what they say. However, I would not vote for Ron Paul at this point in history simply because I don't think the US is ready to take the kind of personal responsibility he advocates. We're just not that evolved yet. Some of us are. But a lot more aren't. However, if it came down to a Clinton/Paul ticket, I'd roll the dice with Paul. I have a feeling that's not gonna happen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion>Ogre Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 And I would agree with you completely, grim, except for the fact that Iowa is over 95% white, and caucus numbers were nearly doubled for this primary in that state..To me, it shows a serious shift in the level of apathy people have for the leadership of this country..just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 And I would agree with you completely, grim, except for the fact that Iowa is over 95% white, and caucus numbers were nearly doubled for this primary in that state..To me, it shows a serious shift in the level of apathy people have for the leadership of this country..just my two cents. Fair enough, I was only able to follow the news tonight in very short intervals because I was at work. From the sound of it and forgive me if im not completely following this (slightly drunk) double the number of white mid-westerners showed up to vote, thats not really going to change the make-up of the end result. Considering that fact that most Iowans are in a sense mid-western farmers or whatever just goes to prove the fact that you cant really predict much for the rest of the country. We all know how Iowa and the rest of the "heartland" will go in the general election anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 A decent speech: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Grenades Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 lets face it kids, it's going to be a tight squeeze [used to be a picture here of obama and hillary] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
After School Special Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 /barf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 even if its a joke can we not post pictures that appear to be porn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Grenades Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 obviously it's a joke..didn't mean to offend you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 it doesnt offend me, it may be offensive to the women who work behind me and have direct view of my monitor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Grenades Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 well i took it off...let the conversation commence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I see it coming down to Obama -vs- Juliani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 hahahah how the fuck do you see that? Guiliani aint doing shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Doodles Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hmmmmm....let me just say FUCK OBAMA, FUCK HUCKABEE, FUCK'EM ALL! Ain't no change in the regime scheme just the faces of the players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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