Raw fish Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 In response to happyvegan... meat/protein shouldnt be a key part of any humans diet.... 80% should be carbs, 10% fruit/veg, 10% protein of couse thats all dependant on what you do with your daily life... body needs protein to build muscle, carbs are fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I haven't said a single thing about meat/dairy industry propaganda. I am fully aware of how much bullshit they peddle, it doesn't change a damn thing about the nature of the human diet. You're still interpreting the evidence the way you want to interpret it. You say you're not getting your info from pro-veg sources, but a cursory online search shows the same numbers and catchphrases almost verbatim on all pro-veg sources, and not on any kind of unbiased scientific source. The only study you've bothered to pull up was completely off the mark in terms of what you were trying to prove, and the introduction of the monograph showing you the intent of the study pretty much lets you know this right off the bat. I seriously believe you didn't read absolutely any f it, but saw it being referenced on another site (pro-veg) that derived those conclusions from it, and the little link at the bottom got you totally convinced that since it was being sourced, then those conclusions must be true and unbiased. The only thing that I am arguing is your claim that humans are natural herbivores and that we are not meant to eat any meat. I'm not gonna argue whether it's healthier or not, so therefore I have no qualms with happyvegan, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shitting Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 i was having a serious conversation about food and people who are mad choosy and i asked my mate if there was anything he didn't eat and he said without trying to sound funny "nah, i eat all creatures". you totally had to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bigdork Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I know you havent said anything about the meat and dairty industry directly. But you have this belief that your evidence is more creditable than mine, because its more out their and easily sourced. It is because its the status quo, and has billions and billons backing it. But you automatically think my information is biased, that confuses me. Why isnt your information biased? If you know a plant based diet is better for you than arent human bodies more made for plant foods? I think they are, and backed it with scientific evidence. You seem to get very personally offended by the word herbivore, like im challenging your eating lifestyle, im not im just getting my lifestyle out their and putting stuff out their some people may not know.Again If all other animal omnivores have different physilogical makeups designed for meat eating that we dont, and animal food gives us diseases, what would be your conclusion? Mine is we are natural herbivores, its mine and has just as much evidence as you claiming omnivore. I respect your opinion and passion. But you cant deny the evidence or dispute it just by claimimg its biased, give me different evidence. Again I will give some difference between omnivores and herbivores.. Chewing- human/herbivore-extensive chewing necessary Omnivore- shallows food whole/or simple crushing Colon- human/herbivore-long, complex Omnivore- simple,short, smooth Saliva- human/herbivore-carbohydrate digesting enzymes omnivore- No digestive enzymes Teeth(incisors)- human/herbivore-broad, flattened and spade shaped Omnivore-short and pointed Teeth(canines)-human/herbivore- short and blunted for humans/ dull and short or long for defense Omnivores- long, sharped and curved. Teeth(molars)- human/herbivore- flattened with nodular cusps Omnivore- sharp and or flattened blades. Major jaw muscles- human/herbivore- masseter and pterygoids Omnivore- Temporalis Jaw motion- human/herbivore- no shear, good side to side, front to back. Omnivore- Shearing, minimal side to side Mouth opening Vs head size- human/herbivore- small Omnivore- large Stomach acidicity- Human/herbivore- ph 4 to 5 with food in stomach Omnivore- less tahn or equal to 1 with food in stomach Stoamch capacity- human/herbivore- 21 to 27% of total volume of digestive tract Omnivore- 60 to 70% of total volume of digestive tract I know you will be skeptical, thats ok. We all have this believe that we can eat what we want and we dont know where we got it, Im here to question that. I know you probably eat alot better than the typical American, and like Happyvegan said the less harm the better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 you take credibility from yourself with "stats" like Mouth opening Vs head size- human/herbivore- small Omnivore- large there isn't black and white--there is the whole spectrum to be examined, trying to break it down so simply is a very poor method of reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatso Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 aminals iz delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I kinda lost interest in arguing about this. I feel like I've made my point, so I'll just leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdork Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Yeah me too, good discussion though, thanks for talking! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushawn wuan Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 "im going to come back and when i get back i want some sort of dead animal on my plate" -Al Bundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 I kinda lost interest in arguing about this. I feel like I've made my point, so I'll just leave it at that. NO!, you MUST ARGUE TILL DEATH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I guess this isn't a death before dishonor crowd Dawood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 that's because they're herbs, (herbivores, that is) ba-doom-ba! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 chuckle chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malin Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 there would be a shit ton more vegetarians running around if everyone had to kill the meat they ate. Me included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreSixO Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 If you eat meat, you should be able to kill an animal. No question. Corporations killed the hunter gatherer in us and now we get squeamish over things that were absolutely essential for life not that far back in history. We're candy asses now.....Dudes need to man up, grow beards and kill shit. people act like they never went fishing before when a catfish is fuxing flopping around gasping for water you bash its head in... cut it open, pull the organs out and chop the fucking head off my dad is kinda a survivalist nut and recently got sme goats to breed... he named one "bbq" , the male, because thats what hes destined for... and if you think this shit is a inhumane way of killing animals you really need to peep what mr purdue and tyson are doing with those chickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decyferon Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I read this whole thread in work today and to be honest I read a load of rubbish haha I think that if your gonna eat meat you should be prepared to kill it yourself. Obviously we live in a society where we don't generally have to do this, as it is done for us, and I admit I have not had to kill some animal myself to eat it but I wouldnt doubt for a second that I would do it if I had to. Also I think we are meant to eat all foods. So what that meat might be harder to process and that raw meat isnt the best for you. Evolution has shown that the way we combat this is by making fire, cooking etc. I do believe that man is at the top of the food chain and that that is the point of animals the smaller animals feed the bigger ones and it all works out hunky dory sorry if that sounds a bit not thought out, had a good response planned from in work but now I have got home and have been drinkin lol but fuck it i also think everyone has the right to decide what they want to eat and no one has the right to tell them otherwise really (apart from engangered animals/humans) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 i also think everyone has the right to decide what they want to eat and no one has the right to tell them otherwise really (apart from engangered animals/humans) and filthy pigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 hey dawood check out this pig i took a photo of in New Zealand, does it arouse your appetite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I haven't seen mams get uppity in a while. That was a good read. boogie, always glad to see a defender of rationality poppin up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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