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I second that, don't put shit into etch. Or etch into shit.

If there was a nonhazardous way to actually color etch

(i.e. get colored etchings, not just coloring the etch itself)

you would se multicolored rainbow etchings allover town.

 

But you don't.

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yeah obviously i have enough respect not to hit up small time shit.

im not down with that.

im just lookin to hit some bus stops or something.

and i didnt get to try that etch yet so im not even sure if it works.

im making a kiwi today so i gotta go get the ink right now.

peace.

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Originally posted by panakeii@Sep 3 2005, 08:18 PM

_nightcrawler

 

Use a thick needle to make small holes right

through the nib, push the needle trough and

move it around in a small circle, i prefer to

place the holes in two rows of this pattern: .'.'.' <- awful illustration.

 

Then throw your favourite solvent or thinner

in the ink, not more than 5% of the total

amount of ink in the pen though.

Don't forget to pump the nib really good

for drips/splatters,

 

And yeah, you will probably not get

drips with the temperas original ink.

 

 

thanks bro. Just did it today. Works perfectly with nice drips.

peace.

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Originally posted by toxus@Sep 4 2005, 12:20 PM

iv just shoved it in tightly because i need some ink for it

 

If you built it right you can just staple it to the white part, without having ink in it.

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here's some old pens i found...except for the glass pen they all work. i've had the bolt pen and the ultra for years, unfortunately i lost my mini, though. i'm still looking for it or a replacement.

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here's some more...these are my favorites- metal bodies and valves, and the black one has a screw on cap. probably made in the sixties or seventies, and they're as good as new. if anyone has any flomaster pens, inks or tips, any size or color, that they'll part with for cash or trade, i'm looking...

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Aleene 2in1 Glue Marker

 

 

heres a pic of the marker in its packaging from their website:

 

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i was in a Michael's art store the other day and saw this little gem. cost like 2 or 3 bucks and appeared to have a valve similar to OTR markers so i grabbed one to take home and experiment with. heres a picture of the marker with cap on next to a pepsi can for comparison (this pic is at a weird angle but this marker it a great pocketable size):

 

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heres a pic with the cap off. the nib was smaller than i had expected but not that big of a deal to me. inside the cap, there is a plastic section that comes down over just the nib, so even if its sitting upside down and some ink drips through the nib, it wont go all over inside the cap.

 

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this pic shows the seperate pieces of the marker (the nib easily seperates from the plastic but i forgot to pull it out for the pic). when i first unscrewed the plastic part that holds the nib, i was unsure of wether i could get the actual valve part out, but i was able to pry it off as you can see. this makes for super easy filling of the marker.

 

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this is the finished marker. i ripped the label off, which left a really sticky residue all over the outside and im lazy so i just wrapped a paper towel around it. the glue that comes in it is a light blue and pretty easy to dump out and discard. i filled this up with a homemade ink consisting of pilot ink, dye, brake fluid, and pearl ex. i know that mix isnt going to create the super unbuffable mega ink but thats ok with me until i get some more dank stuff. as you can see the nib juiced up nicely.

 

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in this pic i just drew some lines to show the width of the nib and how easily you can get controlled drips. i have little experience with OTR markers, but the valve action seems very similar. the nib on this seems to be smaller than the mini OTR's, which is fine with me. id say the line is about the width of 1 finger (give or take).

 

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my purpose for this marker is for insides and other places where a mop isnt an easy option and this marker seems to fit the bill perfectly. it holds enough ink (for me at least) and i like how i can dismantle most all the parts of the marker easily. not to mention its not messy and wont empty in your pocket. so far im loving this thing and ill keep you updated on how well it holds up as time passes.

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^never seen that one before....it looks like a deodorant till you open it up, and the price is right. i'll have to check it out. thanks.

 

here's a gem i found...i went to office max a while ago to buy toner for the copier at work, and came across these, believe it or not...

 

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it had glass chalk in it, and they had about twenty of them on the shelf. since they were $1.99, i bought a few (on the company tab- thanks, guys) and tried them out. i put some marsh in one and took a walk. it works as well as any other flowpen i've tried. here, take a look...

 

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this is with montana on paper. it drips pretty well if you juice it, just not here. the tip is still in good shape after some use, but i don't use pens like this on rough surfaces since i like a clean line for chisel tags. i'd like to find out who distributes these bodies so i could buy them in bulk..i'll have to look into that. it sure beats paying eight bucks for an otr, though, if you're cheap like me and willing to put in the work.

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^yeah, and it seems like it wouldn't seal well unless you hot glue the edges. who knows, if the shoe fits...

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on my trip a while ago now i picked a few of those markers with the purple lids up from a store in japan, but it has a black casing(for the ink) and had a japanese label on it, of course, works really well one of the best pump markers ive ever used.

 

by the way i like that tom jones tag

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Originally posted by smellycunt@Sep 5 2005, 04:53 AM

on my trip a while ago now i picked a few of those markers with the purple lids up from a store in japan, but it has a black casing(for the ink) and had a japanese label on it, of course, works really well one of the best pump markers ive ever used.

 

by the way i like that tom jones tag

thanks...it's my official 12 oz. tag. he's the blackest white man i've ever seen, for sure.

 

i think all these pens are made in one factory- kind of like 90% of the bikes from taiwan are made by a couple of builders. i'd give up drinking for a year if i could find the dumpster behind the pen factory...or if they'd send me all their seconds, postage due. we could work it out. i'm ready.

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imma try to get a pic but i went into staples and in the last isle i found the dry erase markers.. buttt the greatest thing i saw was they have tops to put on the markers with the eraser in them.. so its like the nib jus ready to go all u need it an empty bottle/marker to place it on, easily customizable and u can jus glue/tape it together what not, it was 3.99 for 4 big (about an inch circle)tips, and 1.99 for 4 little ones(1cm circle)

just thought id share since its easier then stuffing the eraser felt in the marker lol

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I wouldn't drag along tic tac markers

due to the small amount of ink you

can have in them.

It's like those montana "micro" cans

that doesn't last for a tag unless you

use a really skinny cap.

 

The dry-erasers look nice.

 

I walked into a random artsupplystore

the other day and found a foam dabber

with plastic handle used for stenciling.

Then i discovered that it had the perfect

size for the holes of some dietary

supplement bottles, got hold of a

chubby plastic pill bottle, ripped of

the lid and threw in the dabber and

it filled almost the whole thing down

to the bottom.

 

Haven't tried it out with ordinary inks

yet as it sucks up a lot of liquid in

the bottle. Used it a bit for the

thing-we-can't-mention-on-12oz

though and it worked wonders, if

you needed a fatter layer you just

pressed it into the glass a bit

(the foam didn't spread drips all

around the place as i first expected).

 

Tonight I will try it with krink to

see if the dabber will fall out of

it's handle due to dissolved glue.

 

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Dabber to the far right. Left pic is flying action once again.

The bottom wouldn't come off even though it was filled.

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Ok, no update on the dabber vs krink.

Basically it got killed in action but it didn't have

a fair chance as there were unpredicted elements

in action. Although you remember all rules about

chemicals when you tinker about with it in the

kitchen it seems you forget them while on the go.

 

In this case the rule "never mix **** with anything".

I pressed out most of it out of the dabber and then

poured some krink in the bottle and put the dabber

back, when i was about to pick it up it was boiling

hot and i removed the dabber accompanied by

thick white toxic smoke.

 

The story ends with me throwing the shit in a

paperbag and wrecking with boiling krink a

couple of minutes before the dabber disintegrated.

 

It was fun hitting up trucks with tags

that SMOKED for real though.

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yea good look with the "burner" marker lol be careful

 

death metal i picked up 2 of those today haha tore em apart took out the blueish glue and am about to fill em, there pretty neat with the pump system and what not, imma leave the label so if i get caught haha

 

also michaels sold this Higgins permanent ink, its a 2.5 oz bottle for 3$ so i figured it was a deal, black, permanent, non washable

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Panakeii, that's a crazy story...I've had a couple of those situations happen to me until I remembered what I learned in chemistry class...some things just do not work well together, like rap and metal, for instance....unless you're PE and Anthrax. Be careful, dude. It was funny, though, I'll give you that...especially if you mom or your girlfriend had walked in right then...

 

"What the FUCK are you doing?!?!?"

 

"Aw, nothin'..."

 

That Higgins is waterbased, but it's one of the best. I've heard that it's used for tattoos, so yeah, it's permanent for sure.

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i got the higgeins permanent carbon ink, they had other kids but this one is label eternal so i figured that would last the longest haha, its made by sanford so its gotta be good

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Originally posted by Smack@Sep 5 2005, 07:10 PM

i got the higgeins permanent carbon ink, they had other kids but this one is label eternal so i figured that would last the longest haha, its made by sanford so its gotta be good

I've never heard of that...post a pic, if you can. Carbon ink is the best waterbased ink, by far- sometimes I go out bombing with a carbon ink I made, and it looks pretty good. Sanford definitely makes some good stuff, though. Anyone who came up with the mean streak is aces in my book. If they ever make a refillable magnum, with refill ink, then they'll be even better.

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That marker does look a lot like the OTR's and seems to work the same. Personally my fave marker is an OTR gold paint marker that I refill with ink, the valve lets a lot more ink flow through it than the valve on OTR flowpens so you can get nice drippy tags and the valve doesn't clog up after a while like it always seems to do with the flowpens. I don't know what the situ is like where you are but at my locale I can get replacement nibs where i get the OTR's so this same marker has lasted me a long time I just replace the nib once it wears down, and that way I can keep a nib for rough surfaces and for the smooth shit

 

Originally posted by shai hulud@Sep 5 2005, 09:42 AM

^never seen that one before....it looks like a deodorant till you open it up, and the price is right. i'll have to check it out. thanks.

 

here's a gem i found...i went to office max a while ago to buy toner for the copier at work, and came across these, believe it or not...

 

[attachmentid=20897]

 

it had glass chalk in it, and they had about twenty of them on the shelf. since they were $1.99, i bought a few (on the company tab- thanks, guys) and tried them out. i put some marsh in one and took a walk. it works as well as any other flowpen i've tried. here, take a look...

 

[attachmentid=20899]

 

this is with montana on paper. it drips pretty well if you juice it, just not here. the tip is still in good shape after some use, but i don't use pens like this on rough surfaces since i like a clean line for chisel tags. i'd like to find out who distributes these bodies so i could buy them in bulk..i'll have to look into that. it sure beats paying eight bucks for an otr, though, if you're cheap like me and willing to put in the work.

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