LIVERWURST* Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 WTF? BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The death toll in the suicide bombings Tuesday in northern Iraq has risen to at least 500, local officials in Nineveh province said Wednesday. Iraqi Army and Mosul police sources earlier put the number at 260, but said it was likely to rise. 320 were reported wounded. The Tuesday truck bombs that targeted the villages of Qahtaniya, al-Jazeera and Tal Uzair, in northern Iraq near the border with Syria, were a "trademark al Qaeda event" designed to sway U.S. public opinion against the war, a U.S. general said Wednesday. The attacks, targeting Kurdish villages of the Yazidi religious minority, were attempts to "break the will" of the American people and show that the U.S. troop escalation -- the "surge" -- is failing, Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon said. The bombings highlight the kind of sectarian tensions the troop surge was designed to stop. Al Qaeda in Iraq is predominantly Sunni, and Mixon said members of the Yazidi religious minority have received threatening letters, called "night letters," telling them "to leave because they are infidels." "This is an act of ethnic cleansing, if you will -- almost genocide when you consider the fact the target they attacked and the fact that these Yazidis, out in a very remote part of Nineveh province, where there is very little security and really no security required to this point," Mixon said. Sunni militants, including members of al Qaeda in Iraq, have targeted Yazidis in the area before. Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Khalaf, an Interior Ministry spokesman, said there were three suicide trucks carrying two tons of explosives. At least 30 houses and other buildings were destroyed. Khalaf said the carnage looks like the aftermath of a "mini-nuclear explosion." More bodies are expected to be found. The U.S. military said there were five bombings -- four at a crowded bus station in Qahtaniya and a fifth in al-Jazeera. The massacre comes ahead of next month's report to Congress by Gen. David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker on progress in Iraq. "We still have a great deal of work to do against al Qaeda in Iraq, and we have great deal of work to do against al Qaeda networks in northern Iraq," Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, a Multi-National Force-Iraq spokesman, said Wednesday. The office of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki blamed Sunni extremists for the "monstrous crime." He said a committee has been formed to investigate. Ashraf Qazi, the U.N. secretary-general's special representative for Iraq, called the attack an "abominable crime aimed at widening the sectarian and ethnic divide in Iraq." Qazi urged Iraqi authorities to bolster their efforts to protect minorities. The Yazidi sect is a mainly Kurdish minority, an ancient group that worships seven angels, in the form of peacocks, who are subordinate to the supreme god who created the universe. A couple of related incidents in the spring highlighted the tensions between Sunnis and Yazidis. In April, a Kurdish Yazidi teenage girl was brutally beaten, kicked and stoned to death in northern Iraq by other Yazidis in what authorities said was an "honor killing" after she was seen with a Sunni Muslim man. Although she had not married him or converted, her attackers believed she had. The Yazidis condemn mixing with people of another faith. That killing is said to have spurred the killings of about two dozen Yazidi men by Sunni Muslims in the Mosul area two weeks later. Attackers affiliated with al Qaeda pulled 24 Yazidi men out of a bus and slaughtered them, according to a provincial official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 500 deaths in one day is pretty staggering. but the US has the Islamic State of Iraq on the run in Baquba and the surrounding Diyala province. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 When are they gonna run out of people to blow up?! Everyday its like 125 here 75 there no big deal. BTW just curious.. where are the suicide bombers getting all their explosives? Iran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Damn... If they keep killing eachother off there's gonna be nobody left to fight the "infidel" Americans.:biglaugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It's a sad situation over there. Allahu musta'an Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 they say it was alqaeda(the base in english...the nwo base yes) that were responsible for the attacks. doesnt make sense their version that they are killing eachother and yes they do but not in that way, there are too many occupiers to be killing citizens. and the killing of kids and women together with any innocent being is a work of the cia. specially on the way the attacks occur with their CAR bombs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 You are fucking stupid. GET IN THE VAN!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire15 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Al-Qaeda is lashing out. They got chased out of Al Anbar and into baghdad. We launched another offensive in baghdad. Before they were mingleing with the locals, but they have a reputation for violence and pissed off the wrong people. The tribal leaders of some provinces hate them now and now they cant mingle with the locals to draw fresh recruits/housing/etc. Theyre lashing out now so people will think theyre still what they used to be. They arent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 they say it was alqaeda(the base in english...the nwo base yes) that were responsible for the attacks. doesnt make sense their version that they are killing eachother and yes they do but not in that way, there are too many occupiers to be killing citizens. and the killing of kids and women together with any innocent being is a work of the cia. specially on the way the attacks occur with their CAR bombs. That actually makes a hell of alot more sense than them wasting that much of an effort and explosives just to kill that many of their own people for being a slightly different religion. You'd think that if they had that kind of capability they'd prioritize it toward the more imidiate enemy. If not our troops then at least contractors or something. That shit definitely reaks of some CIA type shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 When are they gonna run out of people to blow up?! Everyday its like 125 here 75 there no big deal. BTW just curious.. where are the suicide bombers getting all their explosives? Iran? Yes, along with other neighboring countries, but many are from left-over munitions left over from Saddam's army that have been looted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 i dont think the troops, they are regular citizens which sometimes could be separated in groups of all felons in between them and yes great injustice will happen. but the mercenaries are the cause, those people are ghost soldiers, no rules, who judges them if they make a mistake? not a military tribunal and of course no one because they are just paid thugs. plus, their motivation is money not patriotism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungonE Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 most countries that are not supplied with western weapons (american made) are getting their weapons from russia. the soviet union imported a lot of weapons to their neighboring countries. especially the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 i dont think the troops, they are regular citizens which sometimes could be separated in groups of all felons in between them and yes great injustice will happen. but the mercenaries are the cause, those people are ghost soldiers, no rules, who judges them if they make a mistake? not a military tribunal and of course no one because they are just paid thugs. plus, their motivation is money not patriotism. Are you talking about Blackwater USA? If so, they are not mercenaries. They're civilian contractors. A mercenary, defined by the Geneva Conventions, is someone that is paid to take part in hostile action for a nation other than his/her own. Blackwater USA are all US citizens that are contracted by the US government. Therefore they are not mercenaries. Other than that, you make great points. I hear the average contractor gets paid a lot. Like over $100,000 a year, to do the exact same thing a serviceman in the US military does. A seargant will be lucky if he makes a 1/4 of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Are you talking about Blackwater USA? If so, they are not mercenaries. They're civilian contractors. Newsflash: A "civilian contractor" who is sent with a gun to another country to kill people.... is a mercenary. You fucking idiot. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 A mercenary, defined by the Geneva Conventions, is someone that is paid to take part in hostile action for a nation other than his/her own. ^Hello... you fucking idiot. It doesn't matter what country is actually paying you to fight for a different nation. Espescially if it's because they don't feel like dirtying their own hands to do the job themselves. If they did, they woulda sent their own ARMY or MARINES or WHATEVER to do the damn job. Instead they sent mercenaries (civilian contractors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Newsflash: A "civilian contractor" who is sent with a gun to another country to kill people.... is a mercenary. You fucking idiot. :rolleyes: You're a fucking uninformed, tunnel-vision viewing, shallow-minded idiot. Here's why: Read Article 47 of the Geneva Conventions in which it states that a mercenary "Is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;" Henceforth, it states that a mercenary is not a citizen of the country that they are fighting for. Also, read the definition of a mercenary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mercenary "a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army. " Blackwater USA are US citizens hired on behalf of the United States. Blackwater USA are not hired by foreign nations. Therefore they are not mercenaries. Irrefutable fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 ^Hello... you fucking idiot. It doesn't matter what country is actually paying you to fight for a different nation. Espescially if it's because they don't feel like dirtying their own hands to do the job themselves. If they did, they woulda sent their own ARMY or MARINES or WHATEVER to do the damn job. Instead they sent mercenaries (civilian contractors). Actually it does matter "what country is actually paying you", you drunken, assholish buffoon. The Geneva Conventions (the standards for international law) as well as all credible English dictionaries, all state that a mercenary is a person hired to fight by a foreign nation that he is not a citizen of. So keep in mind you're not arguing against me, you're arguing against the most credible humanitarian treaty in the world along with English dictionaries constructed by the most respected lexicographers and scholars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 You're a fucking uninformed, tunnel-vision viewing, shallow-minded idiot. Here's why: Read Article 47 of the Geneva Conventions in which it states that a mercenary "Is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;" Henceforth, it states that a mercenary is not a citizen of the country that they are fighting for. Also, read the definition of a mercenary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mercenary "a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army. " Blackwater USA are US citizens hired on behalf of the United States. Blackwater USA are not hired by foreign nations. Therefore they are not mercenaries. Irrefutable fact. I already googled "Blackwater USA" and read between the lines. It's basically a (possibly brainwashed) mercenary group that is sent to multiple countries throughout the world to enforce Americas position on whatever. By gunpoint. MERCENARIES!!! You fucking moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 yeah, i can attest to Blackwater, they are guns for hire. who ever pays the most, gets the service. they are primarily used by u.s. gov, but i believe that i have read that they were hired by south african nations, as well as other countries around the world. fuck blackwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 I already googled "Blackwater USA" and read between the lines. It's basically a (possibly brainwashed) mercenary group that is sent to multiple countries throughout the world to enforce Americas position on whatever. By gunpoint. MERCENARIES!!! You fucking moron. So basically you knew nothing about the organization, yet you kept calling them mercenaries without any knowledge. Then you finally "googled" them. It appears you often make impulse statements, and then when proven wrong, you still stick with that statement just to save face, instead of being a man. This happened when you said Ron Paul wasn't a libertarian and implying that he was an Iraq War supporter and neocon. Now you claim Blackwater USA are mercenaries, even though this is a US company hired by the United States government (completely contradicts what a mercenary is). You are a fucking dumbass for trying to tell the Geneva Conventions and the Oxford-English dictionaries that they don't know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 yeah, i can attest to Blackwater, they are guns for hire. who ever pays the most, gets the service. they are primarily used by u.s. gov, but i believe that i have read that they were hired by south african nations, as well as other countries around the world. fuck blackwater. You have any links/proof that Blackwater was hired by South Africa or other countries? Because they've publicly stated that they've only worked for the US, and will always work for the US. That keeps them from officially being labeled "mercenaries" by international law. They're labeled "mercenaries" by people that don't have any real knowledge or understanding of the term. People like Drunken-Asshole. I have no agenda for Blackwater. I don't know Blackwater and don't care. I'm just someone that defends the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 if not mercenaries what we called them? "US citizens hired to serve in a non-usa official army" its long! and i think we going back to mercenary, because it has to be hired for another country to be a mercenary and well, these dudes arent fighting for "america" they fight for the companies that hire them , or , another army other than its own nationality. remember, they dont fight for their country. we all know someone who is paid,hired to wage war is a mercenary. despite of all the code words they use to confuse the population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 if not mercenaries what we called them? "US citizens hired to serve in a non-usa official army" its long! and i think we going back to mercenary, because it has to be hired for another country to be a mercenary and well, these dudes arent fighting for "america" they fight for the companies that hire them , or , another army other than its own nationality. remember, they dont fight for their country. we all know someone who is paid,hired to wage war is a mercenary. despite of all the code words they use to confuse the population. There are terms for them. "Civilian contractors", "private military contractors", etc. They're hired by the US government -- yes, they're fighting for profit, but how can you say they're also not fighting for America? Many people at Blackwater also believe they're fighting a noble cause and will risk their life for the US and its interests, promoting freedom, democracy, and all that jargon. Is McDonell-Douglas and Lockheed-Martin mercenaries too, since they're a private company that builds weapons and planes and sells them to the US military? US military soldiers are also paid to wage war. Are they mercenaries too? There's a clear-cut definition of what a mercenary is, and your own personal broad-based defintion of being someone that gets paid to wage war doesn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 So basically you knew nothing about the organization, yet you kept calling them mercenaries without any knowledge. Then you finally "googled" them. It appears you often make impulse statements, and then when proven wrong, you still stick with that statement just to save face, instead of being a man. This happened when you said Ron Paul wasn't a libertarian and implying that he was an Iraq War supporter and neocon. Now you claim Blackwater USA are mercenaries, even though this is a US company hired by the United States government (completely contradicts what a mercenary is). You are a fucking dumbass for trying to tell the Geneva Conventions and the Oxford-English dictionaries that they don't know what they're talking about. You can twist my words all you want. All it does is prove that you already know you're wrong. And makes you look like a jackass. A priate contractor (soldier for hire) is a mercenary. Everybody knows this. It doesn't matter how the "Geneva convention" defines it because the word is most likely older than the Geneva convention. Politicians can try to change the definition of a word to fit their agenda all they want but it doesn't change reality. Shit, some douchebag in California is trying to label drug dealers as "terrorists". But anybody with any common sense knows that's fucking retarded. Grow some common sense Theo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 They're labeled as not being "mercenaries" by people that don't have any real knowledge or understanding of the term. People like Theo Huxtable. ^This is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 There are terms for them. "Civilian contractors", "private military contractors", etc. They're hired by the US government -- yes, they're fighting for profit, but how can you say they're also not fighting for America? Many people at Blackwater also believe they're fighting a noble cause and will risk their life for the US and its interests, promoting freedom, democracy, and all that jargon. Is McDonell-Douglas and Lockheed-Martin mercenaries too, since they're a private company that builds weapons and planes and sells them to the US military? US military soldiers are also paid to wage war. Are they mercenaries too? There's a clear-cut definition of what a mercenary is, and your own personal broad-based defintion of being someone that gets paid to wage war doesn't cut it. Jessus Christ what the fuck is the matter with you Theo??? The government refering to mercenaries as "private contractors" is just politics. It's propaganda. It's just whitewashing. I mean for Gods sake, I just saw on the news today how the US government has labeled Irans Army as a "terrorist group" for example. Now, anybody with common sense knows that a countrys official army is not a "terrorist group". Politicians do not get to just change the English language at will. A "private contractor" is someone you hire to fix your roof or your plumbing. A private citizen paid to go to another country and kill people is a Mercenary. That's what it is. That's the REAL definition. It's common knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 it was actually the 'revolutionary guard' that was labeled as a terrorist group. They aren't the regular army of Iran, although they are comparatively as powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 it was actually the 'revolutionary guard' that was labeled as a terrorist group. They aren't the regular army of Iran, although they are comparatively as powerful. Well according to CNN the "revolutionary guard" is the name of Irans army. Unless CNN was lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Revolutionary guard is controlled by the Iranian government but it is seperate from the regular armed forces. It has its own separate Navy, Airforce, and Army. If you don;t believe me look it up i really couldn't give a shit ay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 ^Either way, they're still an official army. Not "terrorists". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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