abrasivesaint Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 my bad if this has been posted, i looked quicky and didnt find it so here goes... shits crazy. "The horrifying sight which traumatized shoppers and office workers in the centre of Luxembourg City last week has now been labelled as a protest against racism. The Belgian woman of Congolese origin who set herself alight in the middle of Place d’Armes told witnesses that she was doing it to protest against racism, moments before she carried out the desperate act which has left her in hospital fighting for her life. Maggy Delvaux-Mufu, a mother of three in her forties, alerted several national newspapers late on Tuesday morning last week that she would be burning herself alive on place des Martyrs at 12.45 am, before setting out accompanied by her husband to walk through the centre of town to her macabre rendezvous. The police were alerted and officers were deployed to the Rousegärtchen. But the woman changed her plan when she came across a group of journalists gathered to cover an event organised by the ‘Mouvement écologique’ on Place d’Armes, opposite the Cercle municipal. She soaked herself in petrol before confronting the members of the press, announcing that she was about to sacrifice her life to protest against racism. Moments later, she struck a match, turning herself into a human torch in front of hundreds of people. Delvaux-Mufu’s husband and passers-by jumped on the burning body, attempting to stifle the flames with coats and jackets. The scene made several people feel unwell and many witnesses who filled the square at lunchtime were traumatised by the woman’s shrieking screams of unimaginable pain. The flames were already extinguished when police, rescue services and the fire brigade arrived at the scene. One person is reported to have vomited after seeing the woman being transported into an ambulance. The events in Place d’Armes have also started a controversy regarding the authorities’ lack of psychological support for witnesses. Delvaux-Mufu was taken to the Bon Secours hospital in Metz, where she is being treated in a specialised ward for burns and is fighting for her life. Grand Duchess Maria Teresa visited the woman and her family at the hospital last week. RTL television was the first to run a news flash about the incident on its website on Tuesday afternoon last week. 352 reported the bulletin in its news in brief section, shortly before going to print. Events preceding the incident only came to light later on in the week. The 42-year-old Belgian citizen and her husband had been facing financial difficulties. They had recently indebted themselves by buying a Citroën garage in Oberwampach, before realising they were missing the documents that would allow them to set up a business. Delvaux-Mufu wrote a letter to Le Jeudi recounting her story of bureaucratic difficulties and economic despair. “I’m against all forms of violence, but day after day, my family and I have to endure moral violence, discrimination, insults and much more from Mr Juncker’s administration”, she said in the letter published last week. Money problems had driven the woman to desperately plead her case at the Prime minister’s office early on the same day of the incident. Her threat to burn herself alive on Place des Martyrs after being turned away by the authorities caused government officials to contact the police. A city-wide search was organised, but nobody could foresee the woman would change her plans." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 i've always said europe is far more racist than the u.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 theo what the fuck are you thinking? western europe is much less racist than the us. with the exception of france. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 every part of the us is way different from another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 woah, source for the burning monk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 what a flaming IDIOT!....people are so stupid sometimes , they just disappoint me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 woah, source for the burning monk? south vietnam during vietnam war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 theo what the fuck are you thinking? western europe is much less racist than the us. with the exception of france. I've always disliked how Europeans were on that holier-than-thou, "we're better than the US, we don't have racism" trip. For one, the US has historically had diverse ethnic groups/races. So racial tension is bound to exist. Europe within the last few decades has only recently been seeing different races of immigrants. When I went to Europe and spent time there, could feel the stares and the racism, and hear the comments. I don't feel that in the US, although I'm aware it exist. In the US, at least people feel some sort of guilt for being racist. Being a racist is taboo here. Europe just does a better job of concealing their dirty laundry. I just find Europe to be hypocritical for routinely attacking Americans for being "racist" when Europe is far more racist. Then, I saw a 60 Minutes news special about racism at soccer games; how white European soccer fans boo black soccer players and throw banannas at them, and make monkey noises. Many of these soccer clans/gangs wave Nazi flags in the stands as well. Then you had those nation-wide race riots in France last year. The last time the US has had a nationwide race riot was in the 1960's. The last time whites would openly boo blacks at sporting events was perhaps during the 1950's. It's 2007 and this goes on in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 people are so dumb. burning yourself alive is not going to change racism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I think it changes the texture of her skin, though. Now, not only is she black, but she's bumpy and crusty as well. Great, more things for people to be bigoted toward her about. Excellent idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 people are so dumb. burning yourself alive is not going to change racism seriously. right now every racist is saying "good, one less nigger" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shitting Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 what a dumb slut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 i personally enjoy the juxtiposition of her face and the look of terror it holds and the complete calm of the monk. def shows a bit about who was actually doing something for a movement vs for attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I've always disliked how Europeans were on that holier-than-thou, "we're better than the US, we don't have racism" trip. For one, the US has historically had diverse ethnic groups/races. So racial tension is bound to exist. Europe within the last few decades has only recently been seeing different races of immigrants. When I went to Europe and spent time there, could feel the stares and the racism, and hear the comments. I don't feel that in the US, although I'm aware it exist. In the US, at least people feel some sort of guilt for being racist. Being a racist is taboo here. Europe just does a better job of concealing their dirty laundry. I just find Europe to be hypocritical for routinely attacking Americans for being "racist" when Europe is far more racist. Then, I saw a 60 Minutes news special about racism at soccer games; how white European soccer fans boo black soccer players and throw banannas at them, and make monkey noises. Many of these soccer clans/gangs wave Nazi flags in the stands as well. Then you had those nation-wide race riots in France last year. The last time the US has had a nationwide race riot was in the 1960's. The last time whites would openly boo blacks at sporting events was perhaps during the 1950's. It's 2007 and this goes on in Europe. immigration into britain has been ongoing for about a thousand years now. there were black and asian communities in london and southern england prior to colonisation of the new world. also the only major football firm to incorporate nazi imagery in it's flags and symbols is lazio, something they get routinely berated and condemned for. if you felt uncomfortable in europe, there's not really much I can say about that. but I can't see how you could feel different in the us, a country where you generally have much more segregation of communities in major cities. I'm not defending france though. the country is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 im still sayin, look at her... look at the monk. bitch had no idea what she was in for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldBench Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 What a moron. Like that is ever going to solve racism... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 i personally enjoy the juxtiposition of her face and the look of terror it holds and the complete calm of the monk. def shows a bit about who was actually doing something for a movement vs for attention. ^Real talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 This stupid ass bitch is just crazy. Yeah, lighting yourself on fire is going to magicaly make racism not exist anymore. And her husband went along with it? He must have wanted to see her go pretty bad. My man was probably cheering her on as she was pouring the gassoline all over herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 The last time the US has had a nationwide race riot was in the 1960's. I don't thing there was ever a "nationwide" race riot. But the last race riot I remember was in 92 or so. And it was in multiple cities, not just LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Chaos Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 wow.. thats crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I've always disliked how Europeans were on that holier-than-thou, "we're better than the US, we don't have racism" trip. For one, the US has historically had diverse ethnic groups/races. So racial tension is bound to exist. Europe within the last few decades has only recently been seeing different races of immigrants. When I went to Europe and spent time there, could feel the stares and the racism, and hear the comments. I don't feel that in the US, although I'm aware it exist. In the US, at least people feel some sort of guilt for being racist. Being a racist is taboo here. Europe just does a better job of concealing their dirty laundry. I just find Europe to be hypocritical for routinely attacking Americans for being "racist" when Europe is far more racist. Then, I saw a 60 Minutes news special about racism at soccer games; how white European soccer fans boo black soccer players and throw banannas at them, and make monkey noises. Many of these soccer clans/gangs wave Nazi flags in the stands as well. Then you had those nation-wide race riots in France last year. The last time the US has had a nationwide race riot was in the 1960's. The last time whites would openly boo blacks at sporting events was perhaps during the 1950's. It's 2007 and this goes on in Europe. but then again...racism is everywhere in some form or another... http://youtube.com/watch?v=plQpLPy1eao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 immigration into britain has been ongoing for about a thousand years now. there were black and asian communities in london and southern england prior to colonisation of the new world. also the only major football firm to incorporate nazi imagery in it's flags and symbols is lazio, something they get routinely berated and condemned for. if you felt uncomfortable in europe, there's not really much I can say about that. but I can't see how you could feel different in the us, a country where you generally have much more segregation of communities in major cities. I'm not defending france though. the country is fucked. The "segregation" is for the most part "we feel more comfortable around our own" type deal. There's "ethnic communities;" not really a mix. It's not institutionalized segregation like it was 40+ years ago. Still, although the area I live in is mostly white, but there's mixes of East Asians, Jews, Russians, Indians, a few blacks and a few Mexicans/Hispanics... that's just on my block. To me it's good to have mixed neighborhoods, but also neighborhoods with cultural distinctions. Down the way there's an area which is all Russian Jewish businesses and communities... but in my immediate area it's pretty diverse. To me that's what a typical American city is like -- culturally-distinct areas (which you might call segregation), and mixed areas. Does France even have any white people any more? Every person I meet in the US from France is either black or Arab. When I was in Europe I was surprised how many blacks I met in Amsterdam that were from France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I don't thing there was ever a "nationwide" race riot. But the last race riot I remember was in 92 or so. And it was in multiple cities, not just LA. I'm referring to the nationwide race riots following Martin Luther King's assasination. They were brief and only lasted a few days I think. Didn't happen in every major city, but it was coast-to-coast. The L.A. Riots of '92 weren't the last race riots -- there was one in Cincinnatti in 2001. I don't know if there have been any since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 ^Real talk. they should have replaced the props button with a real talk button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'm referring to the nationwide race riots following Martin Luther King's assasination. They were brief and only lasted a few days I think. Didn't happen in every major city, but it was coast-to-coast. The L.A. Riots of '92 weren't the last race riots -- there was one in Cincinnatti in 2001. I don't know if there have been any since. i wouldn't call the riots in Cincinnati riots at all, more like an uprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theo Huxtable. Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Like the fire that needs the air I won't burn unless you're there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 More of Europe's high standards of racial policy... 'Monkey chants' USA's Beasley hears racial taunts in European match Posted: Tuesday August 7, 2007 8:01PM; Updated: Tuesday August 7, 2007 8:01PM BIJELO POLJE, Montenegro (AP) -- American midfielder DaMarcus Beasley scored his first goal for Glasgow Rangers and was taunted by racist fans during a 1-0 victory over FK Zeta on Tuesday night in European Champions League qualifying. A small section of fans made "monkey chants" aimed at Beasley and teammate Jean-Claude Darcheville, according to Rangers' Web site. "It happened to me a few years ago when PSV played Red Star in Belgrade, and I can't believe racist abuse is still in football," Beasley was quoted as saying on Rangers' Web site. "People can come to a match and jeer, but the racist thing just has to get out of football." The 25-year-old Beasley, who was loaned from PSV Eindhoven to Manchester City last season, joined Rangers in June. "It sickens to hear these chants, but when you are on the pitch, you have to try to blank it out," Beasley was quoted as saying. "It degrades the game for everyone. I will discuss the situation with Rangers because I feel strongly about it, and we will decide if we should file a complaint." Beasley, who made his competitive debut for Rangers in a Scottish Premier League game last weekend, scored on a 20-yard shot in the 81st minute. Rangers advanced 3-0 in the home-and-home, total-goals series and plays Red Star Belgrade or Estonia's Levadia Tallinn for a berth in the Champions League. The Union of European Football Associations could take action against FK Zeta. "If it did happen, I wasn't aware of it, but the players coped well with the atmosphere," Rangers manager Walter Smith said. "DaMarcus is starting to look a bit brighter, and I am pleased with this progress." Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 She is Belgian only on paper, in reality everyone knows she is African-Belgian citizen. Setting herself on fire serves no purpose, why doesn't she go back to Africa and work on their own economy there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 yeah! metallix is back! post some more of your pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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