skirmfirm Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ok heres how it is I live in a fairly small city, and until about 6 months ago it had a healthy Graff scene, with people from all over the country saying how theyd enjoy visiting as theyd heard this and that and had seen pictures or met writers from here etc etc, there was much bombing, large tracksides, freights were constantly colorful, passenegrs were done at a rather low rate, keeping the yards quite lo security and fairly easy, and often enviable. Then came the arrests, there were, id say, about 10 people who were fully active on a regular basis, this came to an end one evening and the heaviest bomber was off the scene. Then came house raids, i think 70% of the writers were lost due to a series of raids over 24hrs, and with the local colleges and Universitys suspending anyone getting arrested for Graffiti related crimes (the council actually blamed the art colleges for spawning writers and demanded money towards removal!!) These writers, altho u may think they are 'pussying' out, took the years of hard studying over simply changing there names, and dissapeared off the scene. Then came a raid on a botched Jam at a 'chill' spot that had been painted, altho without permisiion for years, taking a HUGE number of writers with it, until the only names appearing on the street were toys and visitors. And nothing rail related was being acheived at all. Then theres me. Apparently the only writer holding it down, but with the council hiring in a Specialist to catch the remaining few, and having past history with the law, im starting to re assess my life in the graff world I was all for total domination, thinking it had got easier since alot had stopped, but being the only name appearing on a regular basis, i realised i was walking a thin line that would snap at any moment unless some fresh blood came on the seen to smother the heat from one person. Add to this the huge buff which wiped out years worth of tracksides and rooftops and street bombs almost overnight. Maybe its not about dominstion anymore, i now realise i may just throw away the pens, and start writing just for myself, spend more time on detail, travel, and become better, instead of 'more' Anyways, sorry for the lenghtyness! Id love to hear your thoughts, experiences and watnot. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blart.BOS Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 stay lo for a little while, or travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashdummy Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 What he said. Stay below tha radar for a couple months. You can go out an do your thing once in a rare while, but don't be out every night. This is happening over here too, but the writers for the most part keep coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 So you reckon over time therel definatly be fresh blood to take the heat, start gettin the streets dirtier and make it easier to slip back in? There on it now, i think i need to wait till graffs no longer a prority then just come back with a diff approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KntOner Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 yo i say paint in other cities as much as you can,maybe keep your shit in a friends house who doesnt write in case you get raided,but bomb a small bit so its not obvious what youre doing.if you got a big rep already you can prob hang back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ive been at it for a bit, i learnt about keepin your house clean years ago, the hard way, thats notta problem would just hate to lose my pc id go insane yer i have a big rep but anythin else i do now would be revisiting freshly buffed spots, which is obvi gonna piss people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveparesucksgasm Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 thats kind of how it is where i am at. in the last six months, mad old stuff has been buffed, yards have been getting buffed, other yards getting hot due to arrests, etc. its kind of hot right now, and alot of the old school dudes arent painting illegal, and then there are the ones who almost never paint period anymore. its kind of lame, the scene here seemed real healthy when we first visited a few years ago, but i was slightly decieved due to old spots that nobody cared to buff, and things like that. all the freight spots here suck really. theyre either super hot, unreliable, or generally just sketchy in every manner. the last legal wall is about to get shut down too. a few stupid kids really fucked it up for everyone in the last year, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Yer, kids, i hate to think it but i reckon i went all out too quickly when i first got here, city life was just a joke that i could walk down the road to yards or have endless ally ways and shutters Then whatdaykniow theyve hired in one of the countrys best Graffiti LLiason Officers and hes shit hot knows every writer and who they are, hes just tryin to pin them together My mate got busted by him at a legal spot cos he was tagging a wall nearby and the cops are sittin in there cars near the legals and watchin the writers doin there pieces (could happen anywhere!) Anyways this Graff Cop aparently pointed to every piece and rolled out the persons name for each tag. Shit hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 24 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 spots getting heated is always a good sign of a huge crackdown on graffiti most cities have these random wars on graffiti every now and again, but they finish after a few months i would suggest not even buying/racking paint for a while the streets will start getting bombed again soon enough, but until then dont paint regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PROTOCOL* Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 So who is the snitch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xploda11 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 So who is the snitch?? Hmmm theres talk, as the old heads been acting weird lately, and after bein offered legals if they help curb the illegal scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldorado_06 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 house raids? I know they can search once your busted but are you talking straight raids like drug raid style? would old heads sell out the scene for some legals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloverthetown Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 cats aint raiding unless they got hard evidence... the fact it was that many at once, someone is singing like a bird.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSone Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 sounds cute... probably a good idea if you just stop period for a few months, then once you notice its chill start up again... must suck living in a small town or where ever you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 its not that small to be honest the rewards for grasses are just to big.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 you could move just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projetmayhem Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Are these raid like SWAT teams or they just walk in and take your paint, markers, and black book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 it has happened before there were huge raids in Berlin in 1996- something like 100 houses got raided at once which put a dent in the scene apprently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSone Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Are these raid like SWAT teams or they just walk in and take your paint, markers, and black book. Yepo, full tac swat team raids with black-hawk choppers when raiding multiple targets. Basically your general mp5/socom tac weapon set up and they have been known to use smoke/tear grens. This is serious shit we are talking about..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 HAhah nah they just bust through your door at 6 in the morning, aprehend you, RINSE your house, take your computer(s) cameras turn the place upside down take graff books, pens, clothes, and any sketch with any form of styled writing on it even copied cd's where youve writen the title yourself. And if your not in they fuck the place up, they pulled my mates curtains off and put them in the toilet, and ripped his posters down and made faces with the blue tack Theres a torrent at the moment called tpk is dead, a 15min video on raiding the tpk crew, same shit really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 it has happened before there were huge raids in Berlin in 1996- something like 100 houses got raided at once which put a dent in the scene apprently thats scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonamebrandeggs Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This thread was making me paranoid, then I remembered I don't live in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlo Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 fuck all that shit, just move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 This thread was making me paranoid, then I remembered I don't live in the United States. This shits the uk :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 fuck all that shit, just move give up my friends, girls, home, job, family yeh ok, jus so i can draw pictures on trains and walls easier.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase86 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Damn that's something serious. Just keep on the DL for a hot minute, then just come back on the scene hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skem_oner Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I know exacly wot you mean, I live in the same city as you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I would say just be smart about it... Only paint solo... change your word... don't trust any kid you used to roll with who got knocked... just tell them that you aren't writing... and don't let them know what you switched writing to if they find out you are still painting.. But in general keep it low profile for a little while... let the heat die out and then pick back up in a few months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surefire21 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 i say bomb just as hard in both local spots and far off spots, just think really hard about the spots your bombin. your city sounds fucked, im glad i dont live there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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