tango 24 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 im all for saving animals, but this shit is fucking stupid they want to kill a baby polar bear thats being hand raised in berlin zoo since its mother rejected it. they say it will humanise the bear... fuck them its too cute to kill HE'S cute, he's cuddly, and according to some animal rights activist Knut the baby polar bear should die. The three-month-old cub is at the centre of a media storm in Germany, with debate raging over the role of zoos and the "humanising" of wild animals. What do you think about the treatment of animals in zoos? Tell us below. The bear was saved and hand-reared by a keeper at Berlin Zoo after being rejected and left to die by its mother. But animal rights campaigners have argued the zoo's actions will humanise the bear too much and want it to stop saving young animals. "Hand-rearing a polar bear is not appropriate and is a serious violation of animal rights," the Bild newspaper quoted animal rights campaigner Frank Albrecht as saying. "In fact, the cub should have been killed." However, Berlin Zoo said the animal would not be put down or left to fend for itself: "That's complete nonsense," a spokesman said. Knut has become an unofficial Berlin city mascot and has even had his picture taken by photographer Annie Leibovitz as part of a new climate change campaign. His fate has gripped the German capital since his birth in December. Knut's mother Tosca - formerly a performing animal in an East German zoo - rejected Knut and his twin brother shortly after their birth. The twin died, but Knut was "adopted" by zookeeper Thomas Doerflein. The polar bear is bottle-fed, washed and cuddled by his adoptive father, who moved in to the zoo to sleep in a bed by the bear´s crate. Newspapers have reported that Mr Doerflein plays him Elvis songs on the guitar and gave him Christmas presents. With debate raging, the director of Aachen zoo, Wolfram Ludwig, stepped into the row, saying he also believed Berliners made the wrong decision in saving Knut. "It is not correct to bottle-feed a small polar bear. He will always be fixated on his keeper and will never grow to be a proper polar bear," he said. Knut, he said, should have been killed when Tosca rejected him. "One should have had the courage to kill him much earlier." Leipzig zoo showed the way last December by injecting a rejected baby sloth with T61, a poison that kills in two seconds. The argument used by Leipzig and specialists such as Rödiger Schmiedel, the head of Germany’s Bear Foundation, is that it is impossible to domesticate a wild animal so it is better not to start. But the "save Knut" looks set to win the day. The cub is due to be presented to the public this week after reaching the critical weight of 8kg, at which he is deemed strong enough to face TV cameras. It will then be even harder to dispatch him quietly with a T61 jab. "The humanisation of this bear has to stop as soon as possible," said Wolfgang Apel, the head of the German animal protection league, "but he has a right to live." http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21421012-5006007,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyper Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 so we should "humanise" rejected children/orphans too? i dont understand why the bear couldnt live a happy life raised by the Zoo. if they treat it well and it lives happily whats the fucking problem? stupid hippys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeBee Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Damn that shit is cute as fuck...I want a baby polar bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I am an anti-tax advocate! I believe people in special ed or who are poor should be left to die in the street. Because I identify myself with a group it means the ENTIRE system of ideas MUST feel the way I do. No one but a couple of retards afraid to eat spinach wants an animal to die. This is not about animal activists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 24 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 yes it is animal activists are the ones who are advocating the extermination of the cub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoneTWS Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 so we should "humanise" rejected children/orphans too? i dont understand why the bear couldnt live a happy life raised by the Zoo. if they treat it well and it lives happily whats the fucking problem? stupid hippys Exactly, I mean his in the fucking zoo anyway right? That shit aint natural so who gives a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolinmasta Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think that baby polar bear should knut on their faces all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVERWURST* Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 yes it is animal activists are the ones who are advocating the extermination of the cub I will fight you...but first let me take off my baby seal skin jacket and spotted owl beanie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 24 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 hey im not PETA i just think it retarded to kill a baby polar bear who lives in a zoo the spotted owl beanie sounds fucking sweet though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxcarrapist Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 im not an animal activst but the media took their comment outta text what they meant was they should have left the bear be as it was natures way in its mother abandoning it and should have let nature take its course instead of inerfearing ......but i truly could care less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie hands Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 those people arent animal rights activists....they are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some1 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 These people just need something to disagree with... Retarded let the polar bear live and get a skill like riding a bike or something to so it can make some money and join the rest of us in the real world...fuck those hippy bears shitting in the woods and eatting berries... Look at this with the right role models that polar bear can be the first caucasian on the canadian basketball team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdf_va! Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ^^I was going to leave a funny comment... BUT WOW. That Canadian basketball team comment... I bow out of this one. edit: totally laughing on the inside... and on the outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
society smells Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 They're German. that things gonna maul something some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAJ Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 My bitch dog looked just like that when she was a pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire15 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Okay. Heres the deal hippys. You can kill the polar bear on one condition. Let it grow to an adult. Then when its big and strong well let you in the pen with it and well let you kill it. Well see who deserves to die then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperface Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 KILL THE FUCKER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horse cock Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 kill everybody and start over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drue_Down Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 someone should kill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europe Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Its very cute and they will never kill it, it has become the new symbol of the awesome Berlin Zoo and it has grown a huge fan base in Germany... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CELT Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I used to know a few very militant ALF members . They had good intentions , but after freeing the animals they never thought where to put them . asshats . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blart.BOS Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 OMG this is one of the cutest things i've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt double Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 the zookeeper is just training the cub, then when it is older it will do his bidding. "Knut, Attack!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsandhillsplc Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 haha oh dear. that article proves a) cnn are dumb idiots, and b) anyone that listen to them are the same it wasnt an 'activist' saying that shit, it was the head zoo keeper of another german zoo lol: "One should have had the courage to let the bear die then," said Wolfram Graf-Rudolf, head of the Aachen Zoo, cited by the Sueddeutsche newspaper. The zookeeper, who has watched the hand-rearing of two animals, said Knut will find life intolerable once bars inevitably come between him and his carer. In fact, just read the bbc article: Berlin rallies behind baby bear Knut the polar bear Berlin Zoo has vowed it will not kill a baby polar bear amid a heated row over whether it is right to hand-rear the cub, who was rejected by his mother. Knut has been nurtured by a keeper who has slept by his side, bottle-fed him, and strummed him Elvis Presley songs. But suggestions the three-month-old should have been put down to stop him becoming emotionally and physically reliant on a human have caused outrage. "We are keeping Knut," Berlin zoo's vet told the BBC. "He's staying alive." The zoo says Knut should be strong enough to make his first public appearance at the end of this week, having amassed an army of fans who have followed his development - from walking to weaning - in the city's newspapers. He has already posed for the world-renowned photographer Annie Leibovitz as part of an environmental campaign, and next week is to be the subject of a documentary series by German broadcaster ARD. Letting Knut go But ahead of his debut, several voices have questioned the decision to keep him alive after he was rejected by his mother, a 20-year-old former performing bear from East Germany. Both Knut and his twin were left exposed to freezing temperatures shortly after they were born in December. Knut's brother died, at which point the zoo intervened to save the surviving cub. Each time his keeper leaves him, and he can't follow, he will die a little Wolfram Graf-Rudolf Aachen Zoo "One should have had the courage to let the bear die then," said Wolfram Graf-Rudolf, head of the Aachen Zoo, cited by the Sueddeutsche newspaper. The zookeeper, who has watched the hand-rearing of two animals, said Knut will find life intolerable once bars inevitably come between him and his carer. "Each time his keeper leaves him, and he can't follow, he will die a little." Frank Albrecht, an animal rights campaigner, had started the debate in the mass-circulation Bild newspaper by declaring the zoo was violating animal protection legislation by keeping him alive. "If truth be told, the zoo should have killed the baby bear." New home Animals similarly rejected by their mothers in captivity have in the past been killed. Last December, a baby sloth was put down at Leipzig zoo after his mother refused to care for him. Knut has been on his feet since late February But each case is individual, argues Andre Schuele, Berlin Zoo's vet, and should be decided on their own merits. "Knut was a healthy baby bear when we found him and so there was no reason for us to put him down," he said. "And there's certainly no reason to do so now." To help Knut gain independence, he was already being left on his own for a couple of hours each day, and had been weaned off the bottle. Polar bears were lonesome creatures, and so spending several years without the company of other bears would not be a problem, said Mr Schuele. The cub will however eventually be introduced to others - although not back to his own family in Berlin Zoo. "He will go to another zoo," said Mr Schuele. "Eventually, we will find him a new home." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANCONNERY Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 This is fucked up, they said they already did it to one baby polar bear before, what the fuck kind of animal activists are these fucks, let the polar bear live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensa Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 stupid hippys Cosigned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groyn shmoyn Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i think im gonna watch animal planet now... and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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