lord_casek Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I've been talking to a friends cousin who spent some time in prison. Really good guy, just caught up in some bullshit. He's been schooling me on prison style workouts. Only thing I find odd is that he told me 6 days a week is the way to do it. That is way off base from what most of the material I've read/watched says. P.S.: These do look intense, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heel.moeilijk Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I've been talking to a friends cousin who spent some time in prison. Really good guy, just caught up in some bullshit. He's been schooling me on prison style workouts. Only thing I find odd is that he told me 6 days a week is the way to do it. That is way off base from what most of the material I've read/watched says. "Prison style" workouts rarely include additional weight. It's easy for your body to recover in a short period of time when you're doing calisthenics, which is what allows Olympic gymnasts to train 5x a week for 5hrs a day (the amount of steroids they're likely on aside). It takes an additional load to really break down your muscle fibers to the point where they need ~48hrs to recuperate. There's no way you could possibly keep up a schedule of the same workout, 6x a week with weights. Even on juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainframe Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Skull crushers kill. My arms are sore as fuck. Try doing these using the bench press bar, takes it to the next level. That goes for rolling extensions too. Also I've found that the decline is the way to go for the closed-grip bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 yeah... i've admired the 'ghetto' workouts, but have always maintained that if you put 275 on one of these guys backs and tell them to squat, they will crumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 i just re-upped my gym membership. This is round 2. Last time i got my fitness on I had a big gut and no upper body or arm muscle. I was a wreck. So i it the cardio pretty hard and did some weight training and flattened my stomach and put a little tone up top and in my arms and back. Now im getting a bit pudgy in the middle again. Been slacking I plan to the the cardio thing again. Burn calories but focusing more energy on the weights. Way i see it i have some muscle up top. On the weights im not starting at 0. I have body mass that needs to be repositioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 "Prison style" workouts rarely include additional weight. It's easy for your body to recover in a short period of time when you're doing calisthenics, which is what allows Olympic gymnasts to train 5x a week for 5hrs a day (the amount of steroids they're likely on aside). It takes an additional load to really break down your muscle fibers to the point where they need ~48hrs to recuperate. There's no way you could possibly keep up a schedule of the same workout, 6x a week with weights. Even on juice. Yeah, this is what made me think it was odd. It makes sense, though. All burpee's and bodyweight exercises. Burpee's aren't bad, but I don't want to rely on them for strength training. One thing I do have to stick with, at least for a while is bodyweight squats. Metal in my left leg from a break a long time ago. Never had it removed....my fault. Too late now. I'll try the skull crushes with the bar. Should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 i was hoping maybe someone could help me to understand something in possibly a medical way. I was stressed out... had a job that was fucking me up and was going to the gym all the time. This is when i melted down and started taking alot of xanax. Anyhow. I lost the job and stopped going to the gym. Stopped taking the stickbats and everything calmed down When i was in the mix i thought that working out all the time was helping me in some way. Helping me to burn off the tension and anxiety Fast forward to today. I went to the gym... didn't overdo it. Took a swim and sat in the sauna for a minute and now I'm feeling the same type of anxiety that i had a few months ago. It seems kinda like the exercise is the cause of the anxiety. How can this be? In trying to answer my own question... i kno that when you work out your brain releases chemicals. serotonin and the like. Could it be that I don't have a chemical imbalance per say unless i engage in strenuous activity? I'm thinking this is the case. My question is what can i do to remedy the situation.... short of not working out? I want to be in shape but i don't need the anxiety. Anybody else have this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 i was hoping maybe someone could help me to understand something in possibly a medical way. I was stressed out... had a job that was fucking me up and was going to the gym all the time. This is when i melted down and started taking alot of xanax. Anyhow. I lost the job and stopped going to the gym. Stopped taking the stickbats and everything calmed down When i was in the mix i thought that working out all the time was helping me in some way. Helping me to burn off the tension and anxiety Fast forward to today. I went to the gym... didn't overdo it. Took a swim and sat in the sauna for a minute and now I'm feeling the same type of anxiety that i had a few months ago. It seems kinda like the exercise is the cause of the anxiety. How can this be? In trying to answer my own question... i kno that when you work out your brain releases chemicals. serotonin and the like. Could it be that I don't have a chemical imbalance per say unless i engage in strenuous activity? I'm thinking this is the case. My question is what can i do to remedy the situation.... short of not working out? I want to be in shape but i don't need the anxiety. Anybody else have this problem? Are you getting enough sunlight? I know it sounds silly, but this could be a major issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabloid- Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 i was hoping maybe someone could help me to understand something in possibly a medical way. I was stressed out... had a job that was fucking me up and was going to the gym all the time. This is when i melted down and started taking alot of xanax. Anyhow. I lost the job and stopped going to the gym. Stopped taking the stickbats and everything calmed down When i was in the mix i thought that working out all the time was helping me in some way. Helping me to burn off the tension and anxiety Fast forward to today. I went to the gym... didn't overdo it. Took a swim and sat in the sauna for a minute and now I'm feeling the same type of anxiety that i had a few months ago. It seems kinda like the exercise is the cause of the anxiety. How can this be? In trying to answer my own question... i kno that when you work out your brain releases chemicals. serotonin and the like. Could it be that I don't have a chemical imbalance per say unless i engage in strenuous activity? I'm thinking this is the case. My question is what can i do to remedy the situation.... short of not working out? I want to be in shape but i don't need the anxiety. Anybody else have this problem? you should probably speak to a doctor about this. I've never heard of average level exercise causing anxiety. Seek medical advise.... then start boxing or kick boxing. Best form of exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 anyone fuck with kettlebells? I bought some a couple months ago and have just been toying around with them; mostly swings and turkish get-ups... really just curious if I'm the only one I have been using them now for the last two months and I'm pretty much hooked on them. Been doing a basic routine, really... Warm Up: Lot's of medicine ball stuff... push & press, lunges, sweeps, side lunges, squats, around the worlds... all kinds of stuff - 2X Kettlebells: 2X Farmers walk - 1 minute each side Halo - 10 each direction Two hand swing - 1 minute Goblet Squat - 1 minute One hand swing - 1 minute each side Goblet squat - 1 minute Press - 1 minute left Alternating swing - 1 minute Press - 1 minute right Alternating swing - 1 minute Then follow it up with a 'pyramid' cool down: Push ups - bent over row - pull up. Start by doing one of each, then two of each, then three, then four, then three, then two and finally one. It's been a nice change from the machines and free weights at the gym. Wanting to get a few for the house to have when I don't have time to get to the gym but they're expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illstate Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 i need to work out 2day but if not i need to really work out the next 3 days cuz of everything im eating 2day well mostly ham and mashed potates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heel.moeilijk Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 So I got a BJJ tournament on Saturday, but lifting legs on Thursday. I'm pretty sure I'm skipping out on the lifting legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thismachinekills Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 what's a good forearm workout? i already do reverse curls, but i need to add something... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 what's a good forearm workout? i already do reverse curls, but i need to add something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 So I worked my back yesterday (deadlifts, pull ups, shrugs) and today was going to be my leg day, but my hamstrings are sore as hell from the DL's so should i go ahead and do my hack squats and what not anyways? or switch to my arms and chest for today? And whats a good day throw in some ab workouts? Also I've noticed taking a 3-4 day break once in awhile really helps recharge my muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asthma al Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46VoSA-9Xd8 work good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 i'd do something upper body man... im not one to work same basic muscle groups the day after i hit them hard i do abs on my lower days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I think I need to break up my workouts differently... but I dont know how Right now I work out my back (DL's, pull-ups/lat pulldown, shrugs) then day 2 (hack squat or just squats, standing calf raise, quad extension) then day 3 (bench, dumbell/barbell curl, tricep pressdown, arnold shoulder press) So its pretty much Back, legs, then chest/arms. Which works fine but I've been told when I do pullups i should do curls the same day too and I feel the deadlifts work my legs more than my back. SO... any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainframe Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Do biceps after your back exercises, and triceps after chest. When you hit back you also work your biceps, so doing some curls afterward breaks em down even more. Same reasoning goes for chest/triceps. Deadlifts work your legs quite a bit, so when I do them I usually cut the squats out of my leg workout the next day. You could try doing rows instead sometimes, that will leave your legs fresh. Bent-over barbell rows and T-bar rows are good. In general you want to vary the exercises you do quite a bit. If you do the same stuff every time you will plateau much quicker. Also, do some abs every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 ive been sleeping on this thread. i need to start working out, it would help pass the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troofandroomaz Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 ^this. i started a guilty stoner work out plan a few months ago for myself. while sitting around feeling worthless and stoned, i hit the floor and started doing 20 pushups a set, flip on my back, and do 30 sit-ups. it slowly became pretty addictive, now i try to do pull-ups, dips, pushups, sit-ups, ab-stabilization, and get out for a run everyday, but it doesn't always work. Anything wrong with this^? I just don't wanna hurt myself while I'm trying to help myself? Any suggestions? Thanks y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I think I need to break up my workouts differently... but I dont know how Right now I work out my back (DL's, pull-ups/lat pulldown, shrugs) then day 2 (hack squat or just squats, standing calf raise, quad extension) then day 3 (bench, dumbell/barbell curl, tricep pressdown, arnold shoulder press) So its pretty much Back, legs, then chest/arms. Which works fine but I've been told when I do pullups i should do curls the same day too and I feel the deadlifts work my legs more than my back. SO... any suggestions? just follow this: http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/60-westside-for-skinny-bastards-part1.html there is also 2 other variations to this program. use these as a template if you want to try something different. these west side style templates changed the way i work out. start thinking about 'bench day' or 'squat day' instead of 'chest day' and 'arm day.' basically on this style program you hit your upper and lower body twice a week. one heavy day (max effort) and one light/speed (dynamic or repetition) day. you train the lift hard, then train the muscles that support the lift. bench day... do some variation of the bench press, max effort. then usually a 'supplemental' exercise then you do accessory work for tri's, lats/upper back, biceps. squat day, you do a squat variation, then accessory work. things like glute ham raises, reverse hypers, hypers, fast partial romanian deads, pull throughs... and abs. then comes speed day or repetition day. pick one. max reps on bench with light weight. or speed sets. 8 sets of 3 with 50% of one rep max. i dont consider myself with a big enough bench to benefit enough from speed days, but i do them occasionally but usually do repetition days. i usually go heavy on military/overhead press on this day. for speed lower day i do 8 sets of 2 50-60% one rep max box squats. then do a dead lift or dead lift variation, heavy. rack pulls or dead lifts while standing on a plate or two. then do accessory work. i always add in conditioning of some kind, jump rope, sled dragging, a couple times a week. i also throw in '50's' during the week. 50 chin ups or dips, etc. the basic theory behind the westside strength routine is train the lift without actually doing the lift (floor press, board press, incline press, rack lockouts, etc instead of actual flat bench... or box squat, good mornings instead of squats. rack pulls and pulls from a platform instead of from the floor dead lifts) and concentrating on your weak points. (like hams in your squat if they are weak, etc) the defranco template adds in some body building accessory work which helps build mass, so you get the best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchThe$nitch Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 i took the last 2 weeks off of going to the gym. i guess for the holidays. i'm dreading going back with all the new years resolution people around.. i also need to change my work out's a bit. been sticking too a basic plan. day 1 -tri's and chest day 2 - back and bi's day 3 - shoulders and legs i throw in abs one of those days and am getting back into cardio this month. i thought about doing different things all year, but never changed it up...the time is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 i was at the gym yesterday... new years crowd in full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowmagik Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 anybody down for a lil 12oz weight loss challenge? i got a membership at the local athletic club and the weights been fallin off. i forgot how rad it feels to leave the gym. 5'10 / 203lb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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