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In all the years Ive spent in paint aisles getting my paint on have I ever seen any normal folk walk off with more then one or two cans at a time. Let alone 99% of the time do I ever see anyone standing next to me looking at the paint. Anyone who thinks writers do not account for at least 50% of the sales in spray paint is smoking crack. Spray paint is not used for many applications. Even stuff like black wrought iron fences are usually painted with brush paint. I recently painted my apartment and sprayed the baseboard heating gloss white. That shit stunk my house up for days. Also if not probably ventilated the mist will get on things 10 feet away. Spray paint is not user friendly indoors.

So now ridle me this. When is the last time you saw somebody paint their fence outdoors Key Lime or Berry Pink?

Yeah I know the naysayers will say ok some people are smart enough to take that chair outdoors and paint it. Yeah but do you think the average Joe Schmoe or Grandma Mary is going to spray paint outdoors in the middle of Winter. NOT!!!

Do you ever see some old people on the line at Home Depot with a shopping cart full of spray paint. NOT!!!!

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the average paint buyer (non-graffiti writer) could care less about colors most of the time. im sure i am not the only one who noticed this, you are at home depot or any other store, and you are standing back, looking at the vast array of colors, trying to think of good color combos or what would work with whatever you already have sitting in the car. Then, out of the blue, joe schmoe construction worker or home hobbyist walks up, takes one glance, grabs a can of black or grey or white, walks away. This all happened faster than it took you to decide what outline color you are using.

 

the new valve system is aimed at crafters and average users, no doubt. i heard now that they are making painters touch and other cans with german-style caps, a white and black version of the old comfort tips. however, this is what i heard and someone showed me the cap, i dont know if its 100% factual. I am hoping that they start doing this comfort cap thing again, and keep with the non-any angle cans.

also, the any angle cans can only come in male valve i think, because thats all that kilz paint comes in with the any angle design. and i realized while covering rust on our waterheater base, cans that only spray upright probably suck for the average user who just needs to cover one square foot of rust on something parallel to the ground.

 

 

ps. those montana classic caps do not work on the new cans. they leak all over

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wow... youre a fucking moron....

 

um.... its not cold in the winter everywhere retard..... a lot of people and businesses paint things outdoors.... there are far more people that dont write than there are people that do..... i dont even know why im bothering.... fuck it... think what you want..

 

 

Your the fucking moron...the percentage of United States that has cold winter weather to warm weather is probably around 75% to 25% during the Winter Season. Do your math & geography. The back of Rusto says paint should be used when temperatures are above 50 Farenheit. Umm trying looking up the USA Weather map and tell me how many states are above 50 farenheit at the moment. Weather.com lists about 75 % of the States currently at 40 degrees or less. Great painting weather for the backyard huh? No more lke great weather for racking. Which is what probably makes a big part of the sales for Rusto during this time of year. Face it the average Joe Schmoe is going to follow the instructions on the can. Which means wait till warmer weather.

Then when its gets warmer walk around when people are fixing up their homes and tell me how many people , contractors you see using Spray Paint to paint up their fences , garages ...whatever. Hardly none.

...and what the fuck does it mean when you say their are far more people that dont write then do...no fucking duh. So does that mean they all go down to there local Home Depot and pick up cases of fruity colors for their fucking homes. Cmon now. Yeah contractors are really spray painting people's home interiors Key Lime Green & Grape. Think when the last time you were in a building somewhere or someones home where you have seen these colors painted on anything.

Johnny Ballbags do me a favor keep the name calling to someone else. You want to debate me , show me you have a high enough IQ for me to even waste my time addressing you.

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when i hear you i really enjoy to live in Europe, before they were selling Krylon can's in a big "home depot" store's chain and now they sell belton and also a wide selection of caps... thats crazy... but what really suck's generally with spray paint is the quality of the paint! i see a lot of prods (mostly in black and silver) that fade away in only a couple of months.. it's like when they stopped to use xylène and toluene in markers...water based ink:o ... maybe it's a conspiration against writers.. the same companies who sell paint also sell the cleaning products...

and about the hypocrisy of the compagnies, cover all paint, xxxxl cans of silver:rolleyes:, and http://www.molotow.com with their "bombers" product...

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the average paint buyer (non-graffiti writer) could care less about colors most of the time. im sure i am not the only one who noticed this, you are at home depot or any other store, and you are standing back, looking at the vast array of colors, trying to think of good color combos or what would work with whatever you already have sitting in the car. Then, out of the blue, joe schmoe construction worker or home hobbyist walks up, takes one glance, grabs a can of black or grey or white, walks away. This all happened faster than it took you to decide what outline color you are using.

 

 

 

 

Thank you...exactly the same experience Ive had in the past 20 something years of writing.

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Face it the average Joe Schmoe is going to follow the instructions on the can. Which means wait till warmer weather..

 

 

 

You are either a fucking moron or a women if you think that. I don't want to piss off vag, sherock, kartfase or Sookie by catagorizing you with them so I am gonna stick with the moron steeze. Dudes don't follow directions until shit is so fucked up they have no choice.

 

Also if the Average Joe Schmoe followed directions there would be no need for customer service help lines and shit...You generalize way to much all the statistics your pulling out of you anus... If you go into the ghetto you see people spray paint their 92 honda civics purple you see people buying colors for crafts and bullshit. I seriously want to take a shit on you then I am going to run in your house and spray my scent in the corners of your house to show you I am the alpha male and mark my territory...

 

 

 

and I add a mother fucker so all you ignate niggas hear me!

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You are either a fucking moron or a women if you think that. I don't want to piss off vag, sherock, kartfase or Sookie by catagorizing you with them so I am gonna stick with the moron steeze. Dudes don't follow directions until shit is so fucked up they have no choice.

 

Also if the Average Joe Schmoe followed directions there would be no need for customer service help lines and shit...You generalize way to much all the statistics your pulling out of you anus... If you go into the ghetto you see people spray paint their 92 honda civics purple you see people buying colors for crafts and bullshit. I seriously want to take a shit on you then I am going to run in your house and spray my scent in the corners of your house to show you I am the alpha male and mark my territory...

 

and I add a mother fucker so all you ignate niggas hear me!

 

 

So wait your not genrealizing either then. I didnt see no homies while driving throigh Brownsville ,Brooklyn in this fucking weather spray painting there cars purple while driving through yesterday///. and chances are if they are spray painting there cars they are using auto paint form R&S Strauss.

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just to add: the company i work for goes through several hundred cans a month on random shit..... and thats just one company.... and get this: i live in boston where its 20 something degrees right now and sometimes they use paint IN THE WINTER..... its just arrogant and simple minded to assume writers make up that much of the market..... im sure theres a fuckload more black, white and primer colors manufactured than the berry pinks and green apples..... just cuz you see equal quantities on the shelf doesnt mean shit.....

 

 

ps. paint2metal, show us your tits....

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So wait your not genrealizing either then. I didnt see no homies while driving throigh Brownsville ,Brooklyn in this fucking weather spray painting there cars purple while driving through yesterday///. and chances are if they are spray painting there cars they are using auto paint form R&S Strauss.

 

You're right there are no such things as sheds basements or garages...

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actually if you see people at all thats pretty surprising because if we learned anything from dances with wolves its that people actually pack up and move into the woods when winter comes just like the souix...and then while they have like 6 people in their teepee (sp? I murdered it sorry for killing your word I'll make it up to you by loosing in craps next time I go to the casino) while those people are asleep they have sex in front of each other...

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An unless you got some sales stats from Home Depot or Rusto you aint proved a damn thing.

Again how many times have you been in one of these stores and actually seen common folk picking up more then one or two cans at a time. Normally I have the paint rack to myself in these places. Then again though if you aint really getting up you would'nt be in these shops to see this now would you?

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Your a funny fucker arent you? You have a veteran status on 12oz. Does that mean you spend all your time on here popping shit , while Im getting up. I bet you it does. Just more internet toys talking shit.

 

 

Sorry for a having a job that has access to the internet...

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On primary colors Id agree with you fags but seriously you can't tell me on fruity colors that writers are not buying a large market of that shit.

 

 

so what your sayin is that writers buy a large portion of the smallest portion of paint made, which all works out to a shit load less than most or half or whatever of paint made......

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Wow, this thread has gotten bad.

 

It's ridiculous for people to argue with each other over whether or not non- writers use a lot of spray paint. Yes, a lot of contractors, construction companies, artists, set designers, and factory workers use spray paint on a daily basis. More than people would probably guess. Then again, I don't even paint that much, and I probably use an average of ten to fifteen cans a week. That probably puts me in the top ten percent of spray paint consumers, given how many people probably use an average of zero to two cans a year. Imagine how many cans a serious freight head, who does literally thousands of pieces a year, goes through.

 

What it boils down to is this: writers certainly make up a minority of a) the population, and therefore, b) overall spray paint consumers... but they use much larger quantities on average. When a store moves twenty cans of spray paint, it wouldn't surprise me if that represented ten Joes buying one can each, and one writer taking the other ten. But really, I have no way of knowing, as I have not done extensive market research on the subject. So I'm not going to fight with some retard on the internet about it. It is an interesting subject to ponder, though.

 

 

 

*Also, it's worth noting that the companies who do use hundreds of cans of paint at a time are probably not getting it at Home Depot. Writers probably do take up a majority of the paint supply that hits store shelves, but that's because the other major consumers are ordering that shit in bulk from the Grainger catalog.

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Maybe we should take him seriously though I mean he is prolly king of his junior high bathrooms...

 

I hate to break it to you but you werent even a thought in this world when I first got into this game. Your just lucky Im not stupid to talk about who and what is I do on the internet. Ill save that for toys like you.

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Haha I actually wasnt a thought in this world until 7 and 1/2 month until I was here so how bout them apples...

 

Some1wasabigmistakeoner!

 

by the way when you start getting excited about stupid shit and start being defensive you usually open yourself up for some type of ridicule...

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I hate to break it to you but you werent even a thought in this world when I first got into this game. Your just lucky Im not stupid to talk about who and what is I do on the internet. Ill save that for toys like you.

 

 

a1.you're*

 

a. how does that make anyone lucky?

 

b. i have been random joe schmo in the hardware store FILLING a shopping cart with paint to be used on things other that graffiti, and i saw me do it....... it just shows how simple minded you are by saying things didnt happen because you didnt see them happen.....

 

 

c.i made this for you:

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a1.you're*

 

a. how does that make anyone lucky?

 

b. i have been random joe schmo in the hardware store FILLING a shopping cart with paint to be used on things other that graffiti, and i saw me do it....... it just shows how simple minded you are by saying things didnt happen because you didnt see them happen.....

 

 

c.i made this for you:

graffersgraf.jpg

 

 

 

Where did I say it made anyone lucky. Wtf are you talking about? What is your level of education. 6th grade?

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