Mauler5150 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Yeah, Aussie rules is way more popular in the less populated states, and rugby is big in NSW and Qld. In Perth, it is almost as if rugby doesn't exist. Maybe rugby's popularity is somewhat effected by the fact that there is 2 different versions of the game? That is why I regard rugby players as meatheads, as they can't even agree on the rules of the game, hence the dichotomy that exists. And the reason I think soccer isn't big in the US is because they probably realise that they will get their arses kicked at a game they didn't invent. Even the NBA these days is getting dominated (or at least infiltrated) by Euro's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 it's safe to say aussie rules domintes wa, sa, vic and tassie, with a shared interest in nt with rugby, while qld, act and nsw are heavy on the rugby. i'm sure interest in both these far outweighs participation in cricket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango 24 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 rugby exists in perth only thing is our team, the western "force", is shit didnt win a single game in the debut season someone should change the name to western farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 rugby exists in melbourne too, and the storm actually win games. still light years behind afl though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Milk Cup [pt. 2] Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I would say that there is probably more interest in football (soccer) than rugby in Melbourne as of this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 And the reason I think soccer isn't big in the US is because they probably realise that they will get their arses kicked at a game they didn't invent. Even the NBA these days is getting dominated (or at least infiltrated) by Euro's. i don't think that's it. there's plenty of sports that are popular here that americans didn't invent. hockey, boxing, etc. it's not popular here because most people think the sport is boring, and it never really spread here. the nba is still over 80% african american. it's not getting dominated by europeans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 football won't ever dominate in the us for the same reason basketball or baseball will never be particulary popular in england, a lack of interest at a street level. there's thousands of amateur teams in london, it's the main sport at schools, etc., that's what makes it popular, not multi-million pound advertising campaigns. although a mil a week is a LOT of money, so somone somewhere obviously thinks americans could take a liking to football. also, I would've thought hispanic americans would follow football, what with the fact that mexico and south america have propper independant leagues that don't need money to keep people interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 well, hispanic-americans do like soccer. when you go to the MLS games, the people closest imitating European soccer fans are the Mexicans. they've got their chants and their costumes and facepaint and all that shit. just without the gang fighting and rushing the field and shit. but most hispanics in the U.S. prefer watching soccer in the Latin American leagues rather than the MLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. Lecter Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Well, Beckham did sign~ Someone finally took the bait~ he was the prime candidate to anyway.. I mean come on.. Beckham IS Los Angeles~ hahah I hope it does good things for the MLS and for his carrer, a uniquely comfortable bow-out will do~ he's been a great contributor to the sport after all is said and done~ And now it's even looking like Edgar Davids (Tottenham/Nederland) is thinking of joining FC Dallas~ He's another one past prime and even in international retirement, only playing club ball, but that'd be none-the-less great for the MLS.. I may tune in a bit more for non-local matches.. I live up in NY and I'll say this, I watch all the typical American sports, but 9 of 10 of them are only those of the local teams.. and I'd say that's about typical for 70% of the viewing public.. There's a nice niche market for soccer/football in the USA.. and the US audience appreciates the grandeur of the World Cup, and do follow important international matches.. but again that's primarily because the USA is everyone's "local team" in the World Cup~(!) As far as the MLS goes and these numbers being used, I'll say this, about 60% of the dedicated viewing public of the MLS are Hispanic, which in many demographic's makes it seem more of a Latin American festivity.. and furthers it's sub-culture position. But on the other hand, attracting hispanic-centered advertisers..which of course are the sponsers of all this going on to begin with.. Another factor, due to the large Hispanic population in the US, any American who is interested in the sport can just as easily tune in to the Mexican League matches.. or any number of international club matches on the spanish-language public(free) stations.. ..And if they subscribe to cable or satelitte, they can turn to "Fox Soccer Channel" (packed with Canadian and British "Sky" shows) and watch matches from EPL, Series A, the occasional Ligue 1, La Liga, Eridevise, Bundesliga, South American leagues and all types of internationals.. and a heavy hand of UEFA coverage every time a stage play comes about~ So note this about that map, Thailand's most popular sport is soccer/football..right? But Thailand has never qualified for World Cup play,they have veritably no domestic league .. and their true national sport, Muay Thai, is even the most popular sport of it's neighbours ! Yet everybody's around TVs, filling bars,restaurants and even streets! , to watch the matches that the rest of the world is watching~ What I mean is that the success of the MLS and the popularity of soccer/football in America are not two fates which are necessarily linked Anyway, America's a big place.. and it does, for better or worse, have a larger effect on the world than then rest of the world has on it.. And, if you argue that America should be interested in soccer/football because millions of other people are, then we should all be watching table tennis with the 2 Billion Chinese too.. ne? ------------- Bolton 08! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 You people are asking why Americans don't watch soccer, but here is a nation in which bass fishing and arena football has more ratings than NHL hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakV2.0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 soccer sucks, but thats just me baseball, ice hockey, american football, basketball sucks, but thats just me. i suppose this ends the rumours of him going to Chelsea// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakV2.0 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 i think america has a lot of tradition and culture. very diverse and rich you have to be having a giggle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 here we got with sneak hating on american sports again... don't worry, dude, the world loves futbol, even a lot of americans, so just chill...nothing to prove here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 everyone knew he wouldn't end up at chelsea. I thought newcastle or were going to offer him a fortune for a 5 year deal. but a mil a week, can't argue with it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Stevens Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 football (soccer) is bigger than gaelic in ireland. rugby and aussie rules dominate australia. that map is definately wrong. abc thats not fully true soccer is huge in ireland but gealic have an 80,000 seater stadium its more in the big cities in ireland like dublin belfast drogheada cork etc that are mainly soccer.. the rest the 32 counties are all Gealic football focused... pause for the floood of LA Galaxy clothing pumped into shops over here... victoria beckham... smash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 victoria beckham... smash! TRASH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Those Mongolians and their fancy wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Stevens Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 TRASH. just for the interweb fame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 fun fact: as of around 2002 (i think) on a participation level more people actually ride skateboards than play baseball in america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Kinkaid Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 it's not popular here because most people think the sport is boring, and it never really spread here.. I never accept this argument. How can you tell me that a game that is none-stop action for 90 minutes is more boring than an hour long football game that takes 5 hours to actually play, and baseball, undoubtedly THE most tedious, agonizing sport to watch are more exciting? And if it's violence, and aggression, and "sweet hits" that make a game entertaining, then why the hell is rugby not the number one sport there? Most of it goes back to the fact that soccer just isn't a traditional sport there, by which I mean kids aren't brought up on it (or should I say weren't, since it is now the most popular sport among kids in North America). Up until the MLS there was not a true, structured professional league, not taking in to account the NASL which was just a disasterous marketing ploy, and that didn't arrive until what, 1996? But it seems at times that Americans go out of their way to not accept it, look at Jim Rome, the ultimate American "sports-fan" douchebag. It's an ingrained fear of change, of accepting and, god forbid, EMBRACING something that the rest of the world created. The fear that globalization will completely destroy what it is to be "American". Americans are proud and patriotic people, but is it really such a scary thought that your son might want to watch the Galaxy instead of the Dodgers? I mean really who cares? Theo, you should seriously read that book I reccomended, I think you'd enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 you're 100 percent right. what they're banking on is that a shitload of kids will get interested in football thanks to a drawcard like beckham, and in 20 years time after a few million kids grow up watching the mls, it will have a nice little chnk of the professional sports market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Kinkaid Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 you're 100 percent right. what they're banking on is that a shitload of kids will get interested in football thanks to a drawcard like beckham, and in 20 years time after a few million kids grow up watching the mls, it will have a nice little chnk of the professional sports market Exactly. And if 20 million kids grow up on soccer, chances are they'll take their kids to soccer games, who'll take their kids, etc. etc. That's how the sport grows, I wasn't just born a soccer fan, I was brought up as one, going to games with my Dad and Uncle, playing it with my friends. It will pay off in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakV2.0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 knowing america, chances are that the hope is 20 million kids will convince 40million parents to spend money on the soccer craze. i cant wait for the ads to start! and weapon x, i wasnt hating...just being sarcastic (i think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 you have to be having a giggle? i think only ignoramuses and people with anti-american bias don't think america has a diverse culture. african, spanish, cajun, european, native american, chinese cultures, all with rich cultures have contributed then you can look at hiphop, rock, jazz, blues, graffiti, metal, punk -- all cultures created in the US that europe jocks. true story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 i think only ignoramuses and people with anti-american bias don't think america has a diverse culture. african, spanish, cajun, european, native american, chinese cultures, all with rich cultures have contributed then you can look at hiphop, rock, jazz, blues, graffiti, metal, punk -- all cultures created in the US that europe jocks. true story. no. you've dona a fair bit of travelling, right? you must have realised in culture terms: anywhere else in the world>the us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakV2.0 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 im not anti american...dont get it wrong. but when compared to europe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guerillaeye Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 no. you've dona a fair bit of travelling, right? you must have realised in culture terms: anywhere else in the world>the us The crazy mixture of Old-World Culture, Neo-Capitolism, Democratic Corruption, Blatent Opression and Artistic Expression that a kid witnesses of this country gives him the material to create NEW culture with, that the rest of the world jocks... because in the grand scheme of things, its a new(er) country with new(er) ideas... so we are going to come fresh more than, say, Paris.. cuz Paris, along with the rest of the world, played out a thousand years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 my dad can beat up your dad. yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Feast Island Man Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 my boxing kangaroo could beat up your dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guerillaeye Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 id pay good money to see a boxing kagaroo beat up anyones dad. and we had this convo.. my dads from that one old school bay-area biker gang.. again with that whole "the US has no culture" thing... so i doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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