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National Guard Attacked Near Mexico Border

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Armed Mexican drug smugglers ransacked a National Guard unit in the Arizona desert this week, contradicting immigrant advocates’ portrait of a U.S.-Mexico border crossed only by humble and desperate migrants in pursuit of the American dream.

The attack took place late at night in a portion of the Arizona-Mexico border near Nogales that is well known as a drug corridor. In fact, the 120-mile stretch of desert is the U.S. Border Patrol Tucson sector’s busiest for drug seizures. Last year alone, 124,000 pounds of narcotics were confiscated in the area.

Evidently aware that the U.S. National Guard is helping the overwhelmed Border Patrol man these remote portions of the border, the violent Mexican drug smugglers used force to assure their cargo made it safely into the country. The National Guardsmen were forced to retreat and eventually, the attackers scrambled back into Mexico.

This is not the first time these sophisticated Mexican drug cartels use force to penetrate the United States. In fact, they often team up with members of the Mexican military and criminal gangs to assure their valuable goods make it into the country. Sometimes they get individuals, supposedly pursuing a better life in America, to carry smaller loads in backpacks.

Hundreds of incursions by the Mexican military have been documented in the southern border since the late 1990s, with Border Patrol agents and local law enforcement officers regularly coming under gunfire attack. For years federal government officials denied the invasions, but fed up law enforcement officials in Texas took photos and provided other evidence.

 

 

Posted by at January 5, 2007 10:51 AM

 

http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/01/national_guard_attacked_near_m.html

 

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/borderstory0104-CR.html

 

 

coincides with this

 

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header_wnd.gif INVASION USA

Armed standoff

on Rio Grande

Uniformed Mexicans with guns, bulldozer

seize drug-bust truck from Border Patrol

Posted: November 20, 2005

1:00 a.m. Eastern

 

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

U.S. Border Patrol agents were backed down this week by armed men, dressed in what appeared to be Mexican military uniforms and carrying military weapons, who seized a captured dump truck filled with marijuana from the U.S. agents and dragged it across the border into Mexico with a bulldozer.

The border incident occurred Thursday evening when Border Patrol agents attempted to pull over a dump truck on Interstate 10 in Hudspeth County, Texas. The driver fled from the agents, exiting the freeway and driving toward the Rio Grande which runs within 2 miles of the interstate in this portion of West Texas.

The driver abandoned the truck after it became stuck in the river bed, escaping into Mexico.

 

Agents called for reinforcement from the Texas state troopers and Hudspeth County sheriff and began unloading the haul – estimated to have been nearly 3 tons – when everything changed.

Officers "started to retrieve the bundles when the armed subjects appeared," said Agent Ramiro Cordero, Border Patrol spokesman.

According to Hudspeth County Chief Deputy Mike Doyal, the dump truck driver returned with armed men, some of whom drove "official looking vehicles with overhead lights." Some of those armed, Doyal told the El Paso Times, appeared to be Mexican soldiers in uniform with military weapons.

"It's a very serious incident," Doyal said. "We are very fortunate ... no one got hurt. Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause an international incident, or start shooting."

As WorldNetDaily has reported, there are widespread reports of U.S.-trained Mexican commandos, called the Zetas, making cross-border runs into U.S. territory in military-style vehicles, armed with automatic weapons.

The Zetas were trained as elite commandos by U.S. forces to combat the drug cartels, but they have switched sides and are working for the drug smugglers in the border area posing a special hazard to American law enforcement and Border Patrol agents, according to a U.S. Justice Department memo. Under the control of reputed drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the Zetas are conducting a bloody war for control of the entire southern border in an effort to secure a monopoly on drug-smuggling and people-smuggling routes.

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As both sides faced off, a bulldozer appeared from the Mexico side of the river and was used by the armed men to pull the dump truck – and the two-thirds of the marijuana that had not yet been unloaded – into Mexico. The bulldozer, Doyal said, is believed to be used regularly to make makeshift crossings over the Rio Grande.

The "armed encounter with drug smugglers," as Cordero described it, is under investigation. No confirmation was made as to whether or not the "soldiers" belonged to the Mexican military.

 

 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47497

 

and this

 

Men who shot Border Patrol agents wore black military-style garb

http://kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=3554012&ClientType=Printable

 

and this

US-trained Mexican commandos pose threat to authorities

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The U.S.-Mexico border is becoming more violent.

http://kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=3373884&ClientType=Printable

 

and this

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44519

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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i brought this shit up before, rocket attacks on the border, car bombings, kidnappings, etc etc. but i'm just a conspiracy nut. it's all in my head.

 

 

 

one thing i find deplorable about this shit: border guards and the military ( a few hundred, unlike the 7,000 bush promised) are not allowed to carry loaded weapons.

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BINGO:

 

 

"As WorldNetDaily has reported, there are widespread reports of U.S.-trained Mexican commandos, called the Zetas, making cross-border runs into U.S. territory in military-style vehicles, armed with automatic weapons.

The Zetas were trained as elite commandos by U.S. forces to combat the drug cartels, but they have switched sides and are working for the drug smugglers in the border"

 

"switch sides" you gotta be an idiot to believe they just "switch sides" , the Zetas are a product of the U.S. governement, they never "switch" sides like this propagandist article suggests, everyone in Mexico knows that the gringos are the real pushers.

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BINGO:

 

 

"As WorldNetDaily has reported, there are widespread reports of U.S.-trained Mexican commandos, called the Zetas, making cross-border runs into U.S. territory in military-style vehicles, armed with automatic weapons.

The Zetas were trained as elite commandos by U.S. forces to combat the drug cartels, but they have switched sides and are working for the drug smugglers in the border"

 

"switch sides" you gotta be an idiot to believe they just "switch sides" , the Zetas are a product of the U.S. governement, they never "switch" sides like this propagandist article suggests, everyone in Mexico knows that the gringos are the real pushers.

 

 

yes, that is very true. ever read anything sully castillo has written?

 

 

http://www.wethepeople.la/waters2.htm

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2814861.stm

 

Afghanistan retakes heroin crown

Heroin manufacturer

Production has surged since the end of the Taliban regime

Afghanistan retook its place as the world's leading producer of heroin last year, after US-led forces overthrew the Taleban which had banned cultivation of opium poppies.

 

The finding was made in a key drug report, distributed in Kabul on Sunday by the US State Department, which supports almost identical findings by the United Nations last week.

 

Low-grade heroin is refined in Afghanistan from opium, which is manufactured from the extract of poppies.

 

"The size of the opium harvest in 2002 makes Afghanistan the world's leading opium producer," the report said.

 

The International Narcotics Control Strategy Report said the area of land used to cultivate opium poppies reached 30,750 hectares, compared with 1,685 hectares in 2001.

 

Afghanistan overtook Burma - whose production fell for the sixth straight year, to 630 tonnes - as the leading opium producer.

 

The British government is the leading sponsor of the anti-drugs campaign in Afghanistan.

 

Contradictory claims

 

The report said fighting illegal drug trafficking was key to the US war on terrorism.

 

Heroin manufacturer

Production has surged since the end of the Taliban

 

"The US campaign against global terrorism in 2002 highlighted the importance of our international drug control programs," it said.

 

Despite its own figures showing the Taleban had cut Afghanistan's heroin production by about 95%, the report claimed that heroin had "financed the former Taleban regime".

 

The UN International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) report, released on 26 February, said that Afghanistan produced 3,400 tonnes last year, up from 185 tonnes in 2001.

 

While the US report praised US-backed Afghan president Hamid Karzai for the measures he has introduced to cut heroin production, the UN report said his two executive orders had no practical impact.

 

Growing problem

 

The Pentagon and the State Department are reportedly split over how heroin production should be tackled in the country.

 

Taliban anti-drugs sign

The Taliban banned production

 

While the Pentagon insists that the military operations in Afghanistan should be limited to fighting terrorists, while the State Department thinks armed forces should tackle opium production.

 

The US report also praised Pakistan for "excellent" co-operation with US anti-drugs efforts.

 

Last week the head of Pakistan's Anti-Narcotics Force, Major General Zafar Abbas, said that heroin production in Afghanistan this year is expected to reach more than 4,000 tonnes.

 

Russian guards patrolling Afghanistan's 1,340-kilometre border with Tajikistan, the main transport route for Afghan drugs to European markets, have seized 1.5 tonnes of heroin already this year.

 

Last year, Russian and Tajik border guards seized 6.7 tonnes of drugs.

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prophet: don't you think it's a bit of a coincidence that after we invaded afghanistan, opium production went way up? i still can't believe people call me a conspiracy nut. it's right there for all of us to see.

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It's no coincidence because we took out the regime that was the first to ban opium fields and then left. At that point, I don't think it was a conspiracy, just bad planning. How the drug trade originally blew up in Afghanistan is another story. But the results of kicking out the one thing that could stop the opium farming are obvious.

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yeah man, there have been dozens if not hundreds of raids from mexican nationals into the US. i dont think you are conspiracy nut in the least when talking about this stuff. there is nothing to deny or warp about it.

 

i got a letter from ron pauls action committee last year about how DC was trying to actually build a social security building in mexico. DC wont be happy until illegal immigrants have more rights than american citizens.

 

since you referred to white americans as gringo's... im sure you will have no objections if people call mexicans 'wetbacks,' eh? or is it justified to use racial slurs if you are a mexican, because illegal immigrants are somehow 'oppressed' or 'enslaved' in the rat race that is capitalism in america, that is profiteered off of stolen land?

woops, guess i need to get schooled.

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ron paul is the man.

 

i was considering putting up a thread about neo-conservatives, machiavelli, and straussian shit

today. inspired by one of mr, paul's great speeches.

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"they're just poor innocent peasants looking for work. they just want to work hard. national guardsmen and minutemen are racists. leave the borders open. this is america. let everyone come in. they just want to work jobs that no american would work. because there are no poor blacks or whites that need those jobs. so please, they just want to work"

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I think he's putting it in quotes to signify sarcasm.

 

towards who, though? i don't think illegals deserve anything but a boot in the ass and a

busride to central america (charged to their country of origin)

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not towards you. i'm aware you don't support illegal immigration. and no one should. it's towards the whiners out there that think our borders should be opened, and keep repeating the same BS over and over about them being innocent people that just "want to work." as if there are no negative ramifications that come along with it.

 

but i think these type of incidents are good in a way. it builds up the issue of bringing about stricter regulations on immigration, and it undermines illegal immigration supporters' constant lies and half-truths about illegal immigrants being nothing but people who just work and mind their business and nothing more.

 

i hope the coyotes do try a couple car bombings to really put their asses on the hot seat.

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not towards you. i'm aware you don't support illegal immigration. and no one should. it's towards the whiners out there that think our borders should be opened, and keep repeating the same BS over and over about them being innocent people that just "want to work." as if there are no negative ramifications that come along with it.

 

but i think these type of incidents are good in a way. it builds up the issue of bringing about stricter regulations on immigration, and it undermines illegal immigration supporters' constant lies and half-truths about illegal immigrants being nothing but people who just work and mind their business and nothing more.

 

i hope the coyotes do try a couple car bombings to really put their asses on the hot seat.

 

 

did you see the yahoo news article i posted about our SS being given to illegals? 18 billion!!!!

 

holy christ! glad we agree on something, except for the "glad it's happening" but i do get your drift.

 

one more thing, it's not only the coyotes, they are usually escorted by mexican military. wild, huh?

 

it's a crazy mixed up world. and they say there's no north american union here...u.s. and mexican SS admins mixing...wow.

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I am going to explain this one more time. And then I will leave it alone. I really think many of you miss the concept of how tied our economy is to the influx of ready and willing labor from the south. For as many "attacks" that occur, there are thousands of "hepless, etc" immigrants coming over. How many of you have ever spent significant time in border states? Texas? Arizona? Etc.

 

I agree that illegal immigration is not a great thing. But believing that these people are categorically assholes who deserve nothing more than to be denied a chance at a better life is fucking rediculous. Especially you Casek.

 

Besides, moves to open the boarder between mexico have been in the works for a long time. They have been widening US-59 for years in an attempt to create I-69 as an interstate road spanning from Canada to Mexico. NAFTA.

 

Basically, I dont give any creedance to claims against mexican immmigrants. My stepdad and his entire family came here from mexico, legally, and I'm sorry but there is no difference between their family and one that comes without some bullshit little piece of paper. Humanist my ass Casek.

 

fuck all your ignorance.

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" was considering putting up a thread about neo-conservatives, machiavelli, and straussian shit

today. inspired by one of mr, paul's great speeches."

 

 

awesome. i love his neo conned speech... perhaps this is the one you are talking about?

 

my prediction is you and me will be the only participants in that thread.hahaha

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I am going to explain this one more time. And then I will leave it alone. I really think many of you miss the concept of how tied our economy is to the influx of ready and willing labor from the south. For as many "attacks" that occur, there are thousands of "hepless, etc" immigrants coming over. How many of you have ever spent significant time in border states? Texas? Arizona? Etc.

 

I agree that illegal immigration is not a great thing. But believing that these people are categorically assholes who deserve nothing more than to be denied a chance at a better life is fucking rediculous. Especially you Casek.

 

Besides, moves to open the boarder between mexico have been in the works for a long time. They have been widening US-59 for years in an attempt to create I-69 as an interstate road spanning from Canada to Mexico. NAFTA.

 

Basically, I dont give any creedance to claims against mexican immmigrants. My stepdad and his entire family came here from mexico, legally, and I'm sorry but there is no difference between their family and one that comes without some bullshit little piece of paper. Humanist my ass Casek.

 

fuck all your ignorance.

 

every single country in the world has immigration laws that says you have to have paper work and/or go through a screening process before becoming a citizen or resident. why should the u.s. be any different.

 

mexico deports thousands central americans every year, as well as u.s. americans.

 

there is a big difference between legals and illegals, because your stepdad was honest. he was screened. there are repeated sex offenders and other felons that cross into the us. from what i've seen, most legal mexicans don't support illegal immigrants, because they're annoyed by the fact that they waited in line while someone else cut.

 

also, what about drug-trafficing into the US that comes hand-in-hand with illegal immigration. surely you can't see anything positive about that one.

 

seriously i think. the rule seems to be that if you know a mexican, have a mexican friend, or have a mexican relative then you're automatically in support of illegal immigration. you're thinking with your "hearts" and not with logic

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" was considering putting up a thread about neo-conservatives, machiavelli, and straussian shit

today. inspired by one of mr, paul's great speeches."

 

 

awesome. i love his neo conned speech... perhaps this is the one you are talking about?

 

my prediction is you and me will be the only participants in that thread.hahaha

 

 

yep. awesome speech. i don't know that you and i will be the only participants. i predict alot of heated discussion, alot of dumb people talking out of their asses, and other random shit from 12oz.

 

 

 

the_crooked: illegals are systematically destroying our economy state by state, county by county. if your libertarian ass wants to forgive them and let them just assrape our country as a whole, why don't you start writing personal checks and puckering up?

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every single country in the world has immigration laws that says you have to have paper work and/or go through a screening process before becoming a citizen or resident. why should the u.s. be any different.

 

mexico deports thousands central americans every year, as well as u.s. americans.

 

there is a big difference between legals and illegals, because your stepdad was honest. he was screened. there are repeated sex offenders and other felons that cross into the us. from what i've seen, most legal mexicans don't support illegal immigrants, because they're annoyed by the fact that they waited in line while someone else cut.

 

also, what about drug-trafficing into the US that comes hand-in-hand with illegal immigration. surely you can't see anything positive about that one.

 

seriously i think. the rule seems to be that if you know a mexican, have a mexican friend, or have a mexican relative then you're automatically in support of illegal immigration. you're thinking with your "hearts" and not with logic

 

 

 

I am not in support of the concept of illegal immigration, but I have nothing against the people themselves. Why should I believe I wouldn't do the same to get out of a shit ass country when there is one full of opportunity right next to it. Anyone of you would make the same fuckin choice. I just think that the concept of dehumanizing them is just as harmful as dehumanizing blacks so as to see them as property. Look, I am dissallusioned enough with humanity as a whole that I don't believe in any utopic concept etc. But at the same time I find how we are now rediculous. What is the difference between objectifying an entire peoples through a singular term of Illegal Immigrant vs. Blacks and the word Slave? Each term is used to dissociate the humanity, and thusly an inherit concept of equality (in some respects), from those whom come here against an arbitrary set of guidelines (Law). Who am I with my ass at a 45 thousand dollar a year school to criticize someone breaking their back to build a house for someone who will sell it in two years, such that it's price remains at a certain value? I am no one. I sit around and read books. If not for those people who choose to take the jobs I do not want, nor you, nor most others bitching bout things, then most of our functioning society would not work. You say they are going in and destroying economies over state through state? Sure, they go in and take the low paying jobs so they can work hard and save money for themselves and their families. So what is that an attack against? Lower socio-economic classes? Oh thats right your undying concern for the lack of upward mobility for poor folk is really a great defense against people trying to better their own lives to what extent they can. Fucking rediculous.

 

As to the concept of all countries having immigration laws? Yeah lets take a look at the civilized world's recent ability to balance work visa's etc against a continuing need for cheap labor. All of the recent riots in France should be example enough of how this is nothing more than an issue of a changing in the socio-economic structure of each respective country. To justify the immigration policies of this country by blindly stating that other countries have immigration policies means nothing to the fallacy, etc of an argument in this case. If anything it is just a restatement of a dated and fucked up systemic issue crossing our own national borders.

 

And whose to say that non-globalist conceptions of government are in the right? What does division create but nationalism and ignorant patriotism? Great. Every country thinks they are better and more moral and everything else, so they have the fucking right to impede or tell other countries otherwise. Who does that? Surely not our democratic and ideologically advanced selves.

 

I may not have an answer to any of this, but I for damn sure do not believe the concept of regarding people as less because they come from a couple miles south than those geographically above them is the correct thing to do. I think its deplorable that any of you on here who claim in your own interest against the institution (CASEK), would take the same line as them on this topic. This is about abstraction of self worth, and the changing of a class of people whom it is socially acceptable to exploit. Short sighted concepts of gringo this, mexican, that, illegal, is retarded. What is our worth comparative to them?

 

 

 

Oh and casek, about paying up and puckering up. Dude, weve been doing that since the moment we payed taxes. I'd rather pay money to those coming in and doing jobs I don't give a fuck about then sending dollars to haliburton and other rediculous corporate interests.

 

Also, It is not that because my stepdad is Mexican that I am against certain viewpoints on illegal immigrants. It is because I am a learned and also have lived in a state where this is one of the biggest issues for my entire life. I have been around. I have gone to school with children of illegal immigrants. I have worked with them. History will look back upon this and judge us so, but until them I will try to avoid history's incredulity.

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