history of human experimentation

[lord_casek]

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.

1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government's current generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing vaccines.

1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.

1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus, a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had been man-made.

1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf War .

1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and scientists who had performed human medical experiments salaries and immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare research.

1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.

1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.

1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.

[SameName]

Damn. Cool ass read. Sucks knowing that they do shit like this.

[lord_casek]

someone just sent me an email. here it is.

 

 

"You've put together an impressive list of the history of chemical warfare and thank you for it. But I wondered if you're aware of the exposure of up to 1,000,000 people, both civilians and military, at Camp Gagetown, New Brunswick, Canada.

 

From 1956 to 1984, millions of litres and pounds of Agents Orange, White, Purple, arsenic, etc. were sprayed on us. They then denied doing it for 50 years - we found out on May 15, 2005 why so many of us have been sick for so many years.

 

We have the same health problems as the Vietnamese, those of us still alive that is. But the birth defects in our children and grandchildren aren't as bad as those in Vietnam.

 

The Department of Defense of Canada sprayed us almost every year but they also allowed the US military to spray us in 1966 and 1967. The US only sprayed 2 1/2 barrels of Agents Orange and Purple over the two years but the Canadian Government, which is fighting us tooth and nail on this, is only talking about compensation for the poisoning in those years and ignoring all the other years.

 

You can find out more info at http://www.agentorangealert.com/index.html "

[isor357]

Nazi doctors in the concentration camps did mad experimentation on people.

Some real inethical shit however they were able to learn alot by doing their

experiments. When the party collapsed and they lost the war alot of the

findings were destroyed by the doctors trying to cover up their involvement

in some fucked up shit...

[Smart]

[lord_casek]

Nazi doctors in the concentration camps did mad experimentation on people.

Some real inethical shit however they were able to learn alot by doing their

experiments. When the party collapsed and they lost the war alot of the

findings were destroyed by the doctors trying to cover up their involvement

in some fucked up shit...

 

 

and they were brought here "operation paperclip"

[isor357]

yeah operation overcast

[Smart]

[CALIgula]

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

 

i had to read about this shit in school....its really fucked up....p.s. the germans did LOTS of human experimenting with the jews in the concentration camps....under the supervision of dr. joseph mengele....they called him the "angel of death"

[Theo Huxtable.]

it's like mk ultra controllin your brain

suggestive thinkin, causin ya perspective to change

they wanna rearrange the whole point-of-view in the ghetto

the fourth branch of the government, want us to settle

a bandana full of glittering, generalities

fightin for freedom and fightin terror, but what's reality?

read about the history of the place that we live in

and stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children

[CACashRefund]

 

i had to read about this shit in school....its really fucked up....p.s. the germans did LOTS of human experimenting with the jews in the concentration camps....under the supervision of dr. joseph mengele....they called him the "angel of death"

 

 

it wasnt under his supervision, he was just one of many doctors who took advantage of the fact that the people in the concentration camps were considered disposable so they were able to conduct a variety of tests

 

some of the tests were done in the pursuit of racial purity

 

alot of the tests had military applications and were done for the benefit of the wermacht

 

people were shot to simulate combat conditions to learn more about how to better treat them

 

people were put in near freezing/freezing water and then taken out and a variety of techniques were applied to warmt hem up

 

 

i got books on that shit

 

 

 

also look into unit 731, it was one of many research units operated by the japanes during

[WORDISM45]

its interesting some people think that it is morally wrong to use what has been learnt from research that has been done involuntarily and in torturous conditions.

 

you can look at it as something good coming from others pain and it has already happened anyway.

 

but also it is in some sense justifying the practise and also setting a precedent for accepting it, a bit of a slippery slope argument but still what do you guys think?

[lord_casek]

i don't agree. torture is torture under any name.

my dad worked in animal research for years.

although it was research, those animals lived very good lives.

they were put down humanely.

 

far better than any jews the germans "experimented" on.

[CALIgula]

it's like mk ultra controllin your brain

suggestive thinkin, causin ya perspective to change

they wanna rearrange the whole point-of-view in the ghetto

the fourth branch of the government, want us to settle

a bandana full of glittering, generalities

fightin for freedom and fightin terror, but what's reality?

read about the history of the place that we live in

and stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children

 

sounds like immortal technique to me....am i right?

[CALIgula]

it wasnt under his supervision, he was just one of many doctors who took advantage of the fact that the people in the concentration camps were considered disposable so they were able to conduct a variety of tests

 

some of the tests were done in the pursuit of racial purity

 

alot of the tests had military applications and were done for the benefit of the wermacht

 

people were shot to simulate combat conditions to learn more about how to better treat them

 

people were put in near freezing/freezing water and then taken out and a variety of techniques were applied to warmt hem up

 

 

i got books on that shit

 

 

 

also look into unit 731, it was one of many research units operated by the japanes during

 

 

wow....you know your shit!!....yeah i read about some of the tests too...i dont think it was really to benefit man....it was to benefit the aryan race.

[WORDISM45]

no sorry what i mena is like us using the data that the nazis got from torutring people. as in someone that was not in any way involved in the torture using the research to their benefit after it has happened

[lord_casek]

no sorry what i mena is like us using the data that the nazis got from torutring people. as in someone that was not in any way involved in the torture using the research to their benefit after it has happened

 

 

 

well, in regards to medical research, not so sure the nazi's did anything really valuable.

fermentor could probably answer that better than i can.

 

we'll both have to wait for him to see this, i guess.

[CACashRefund]

the nazis did do a couple of worthwhile experiments in regards to those that weremilitary related

 

they did research into the effects of high altitude on humans

as i stated before they did research into combat wounds

 

 

Some of the racial purity related expermients could have been done without the use of humans such as injecting dye into the eyes of a human to see if they could change eye color

 

or were useless to begin with, such as sewing to people together to create siamese twins

[CACashRefund]

Heres something i found here

 

its a good somewhat short essay on the ethics of using medical data from nazi experiments

 

The Nazi experiments fell into three basic categories: (1) Medico-Military Research; (2) Miscellaneous, Ad Hoc Experiments; and (3) Racially Motivated Experiments.

 

a. MEDICO-MILITARY RESEARCH

 

Hitler's regime sponsored a series of inhumane experiments for alleged ideological, military and medical purposes. They were undertaken under Heinreich Himmler's direct orders to gain knowledge of certain wartime conditions faced by the German Luftwaffe. The Nazi doctors considered "military necessity" adequate justification for their heinous experiments. They justified their acts by saying that the prisoners were condemned to death anyway. Their experiments included:

 

i. Freezing Experiments

 

Prisoners were immersed into tanks of ice water for hours at a time, often shivering to death, to discover how long German pilots downed by enemy fire could survive the frozen waters of the North Sea. It was generally known at the time that human beings did not survive immersion in the North Sea for more than one to two hours.3

 

Doctor Sigmund Rascher attempted to duplicate these cold conditions at Dachau, and used about 300 prisoners in experiments recording their shock from the exposure to cold. About eighty to ninety of the subjects died as a result.4

 

Doctor Rascher once requested the transfer of his hypothermia lab from Dachau to Auschwitz, which had larger facilities, and where the frozen subjects might cause fewer disturbances. Apparently, Rascher's concentration was constantly interrupted when the hypothermia victims shrieked from pain while their extremities froze white.5

 

ii. High Altitude Experiments

 

In 1942, Doctor Rascher began hazardous high-altitude experiments at Dachau. His goal was to determine the best means of rescuing pilots from the perils of high altitude when they abandoned craft (with or without oxygen equipment) and were subjected to low atmospheric pressures.

 

Rascher used a decompression chamber to simulate high altitude conditions. He would often dissect several of the victims' brains, while they were still alive, to demonstrate that high altitude sickness was a result of the formation of tiny air bubbles in the blood vessels of the subarachnoid part of the brain. Of the 200 prisoners so tested, 80 died outright, and the remainder were executed.

 

iii. Sea Water Experiments

 

Tests on the potability of sea water were conducted at Dachau on 90 Gypsy prisoners by Doctor Hans Eppinger. The subjects were given unaltered sea water and sea water whose taste was camouflaged as their sole source of fluid. Eppinger's infamous "Berka" method was devised to test whether such liquids given as the only supply of fluid could cause severe physical disturbance or death within six to twelve days. The Gypsies became so profoundly dehydrated that they were seen licking the floors after they were mopped just to get a drop of water. [Eppinger killed himself on September 25, 1946, exactly one month before he was scheduled to testify in the Nuremberg trial. The New York Times obituary stated that he had committed suicide by poison]6.

 

iv. Sulfanilamide Experiments

 

The German Armed Forces suffered heavy casualties on the Russian Front in 1941 to 1943 because of gas gangrene. These casualties and other combat-related infections created an interest in a chemotherapeutic, rather than surgical treatment. The discovery of sulfanilamide offered the possibility of a new and revolutionary treatment of wound infections caused by the war. Wartime wounds were recreated and inflicted on healthy Jews designated to be treated by the new drug. [Wounds deliberately inflicted on the experimental subjects were infected with bacteria such as streptococcus, gas gangrene and tetanus. Circulation of blood was interrupted by tying off blood vessels at both ends of the wound to create a condition similar to that of a battlefield wound].

 

v. Tuberculosis Experiments

 

The Nazis conducted experiments to determine whether there were any natural immunities to Tuberculosis ("TB") and to develop a vaccination serum against TB. Doctor Heissmeyer sought to disprove the popular belief that TB was an infectious disease. Doctor Heissmeyer claimed that only an "exhaustive" organism was receptive to such infection, most of all the racially "inferior organism of the Jews."

 

Heissmeyer injected live tubercle bacilli into the subjects' lungs to immunize against TB. He also removed the lymph glands from the arms of twenty Jewish children. About 200 adult subjects perished, and twenty children were hanged at the Bullenhauser Dam in Heissmeyer's effort to hide the experiments from the approaching Allied Army.

 

b. MISCELLANEOUS, AD HOC EXPERIMENTS

 

The Nazis also conducted experiments which involved unspeakable varieties of torture that carried no pretense of scientific inquiry. They included poison and wound experiments:

 

i. Poison Experiments

 

A research team at Buchenwald developed a method of individual execution through the intravenous injections of phenol gasoline and cyanide on Russian prisoners. The experiments were designed to see how fast the subjects would die.

 

ii. Wound Experiments

 

When Himmler discovered that the cause of death of most SS soldiers on the battlefield was hemorrhage, he ordered Doctor Rascher to develop a blood coagulant to be administered to the German troops before they went off to war. Rascher tested his patented coagulant by observing the rate of blood drops that would ooze from freshly cut amputation stumps of living and conscious prisoners at the Dachau crematorium. Rascher would also shoot his Russian prisoners in the spleen whenever he needed extra blood to test. [At the Ravensbrueck Concentration Camp, the shoulders and legs of inmates were amputated in useless attempts to transplant the limbs onto other victims]7.

 

c. RACIALLY MOTIVATED EXPERIMENTS

 

The Nazi doctors also conducted experiments which were focused on anthropological, genetic, and racial goals. These experiments included:

 

i. Artificial Insemination Experiments

 

Himmler was impressed upon hearing that Doctor Carl Clauberg successfully treated a high-ranking SS officer's infertile wife. Himmler commissioned Clauberg to work in Auschwitz and established Auschwitz Block 10 as Clauberg's laboratory. Block 10 was made up of mostly married women between the ages of 20 and 40, preferably those who had not borne children.

 

There was a constant fear in Block 10 of being killed, sterilized, or inseminated by Clauberg. He would often tease the female prisoners that they would all undergo sexual intercourse with a male prisoner chosen especially for this purpose. At least one of the Orthodox Jewish women who heard that Clauberg selected her to be a Block 10 prostitute decided to poison herself8.

 

After inseminated the women, Clauberg would often taunt the strapped-in women by stating that he had inseminated their wombs with animal sperm and that monsters were growing in their wombs. Ultimately, 300 women prisoners were experimented on in Cell Block 10.

 

ii. Sterilization Experiments

 

Himmler's real interest in Clauberg's Cell Block 10 was sterilization. He convinced Clauberg to begin experiments on reversing his infertility treatments and to discover ways to block the fallopian tubes. Clauberg redirected all of his energies toward the single goal of effective mass sterilization.

 

Thousands of inmates had their genitals mutilated in order to discover cheap methods of sterilization. The Nazis hoped that these methods could ultimately be applied to millions of "unwanted" prisoners. Women at Auschwitz were sterilized by injections of caustic substances into their cervix or uterus, producing horrible pain, inflamed ovaries, bursting spasms in the stomach, and bleeding. Young men had their testicles subjected to large doses of radiation and were subsequently castrated to ascertain the pathological change in their testes.9

 

iii. Twin Experiments

 

Experiments on twins were performed by the infamous Doctor Joseph Mengele at Auschwitz. Among Mengele's favorite experimental subjects were Jewish dwarves and identical twins. Mengele's obsession with the Nazi ideology of racial purity and Aryanism led him to believe that he could unlock the secrets of human reproduction and multiple births. His goal was to help the Aryan "master" race multiply in even greater numbers and eventually to repopulate the world with Germans. Of the 1,000 pairs of twins used, about 200 pairs survived.10

 

iv. Jewish Skeleton Collection

 

Doctor August Hirt, Professor of Anatomy at Strassburg University, wished to acquire a large collection of Jewish skulls and skeletons to form a museum dedicated to the extinct Jewish race. In 1943, 115 persons were gassed at the Natzweiller-Struhof Concentration Camp. The corpses were immediately transported to the Anatomy Pavilion of the Strassburg University Hospital.

 

Torture, Starvation, Cruelty, Murder . . . the list goes on. The death toll in the name of scientific research was horrific. In all of the experiments, the prisoners were forced to become subjects against their will. They nearly all endured suffering, mutilation and indescribable pain. In fact, the experiments were deliberately designed to end fatally.

 

[lord_casek]

interesting. thanks cacash

[WORDISM45]

that is so terrible it's beyond words. I really can't fathom how horrible life must have been for those poor souls.

[DDD]

wasnt alot of the nazi's whole reasoning behind the holocaust to get rid of the jews, saying that the blonde hair blue eyes is superior? but they still considered their bodies equal because of the testing, like about how long they can last in the cold water. if they thought they were equal that just shows more of how much bullshit was going on.

[CACashRefund]

well the doctors werent stupid

 

all racist ideology aside, they knew that humans were still humans

 

 

 

most of them werent that fanatic in their beliefs

[KARTOONKILLA]

Nazi doctors in the concentration camps did mad experimentation on people.

Some real inethical shit however they were able to learn alot by doing their

experiments. When the party collapsed and they lost the war alot of the

findings were destroyed by the doctors trying to cover up their involvement

in some fucked up shit...

 

THE NAZI DOCTORS DID SOME CRAZY SHIT TO

PEOPLE LIKE OPERATING ON THEM WHILE THEY

WERE STILL ALIVE AND AWAKE NO "ANITESHIA"

(DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT) AND LOTS OF

OTHER CRAZY ASS SHIT

 

 

 

 

i had to read about this shit in school....its really fucked up....p.s. the germans did LOTS of human experimenting with the jews in the concentration camps....under the supervision of dr. joseph mengele....they called him the "angel of death"

 

MY GREAT GRAND PARENTS WERE IN THE

CONCENTRATION CAMP EVEN THOUGH THEY

WERE NOT JEWS JUST KIDDNAPPED FROM

POLAND...AND WHILE THEY WERE IN THE

CAMPS THEY HEARD THINGS LIKE HE WOULD

HAVE DIVISONS RIGHT WHEN THEY CAME OFF

THE TRAINS:

STRONG/WORKERS (CLEANED AND PUT TO WORK INNEDIATLY)

DEFORMED/RETARDED (EXPIREMENTED ON BY DR.JOSEPH)

ILL/OLD/UNABLE TO WORK (KILLED OFF RIGHT AWAY)

 

AND THEY SAID HE AWLAYS FOUND DEFORMED

AND RETARDED PEOPLE THE MOST INTERESTING

AND HE WOULD CUT THEIR HEAD OPEN AND STUFF

TO SEE IF THEIR BRAIN WAS MESSED UP AND WHILE

HE DID THAT THEY WERE ALIVE.

[Vivre]

wow dude... damn

[fermentor666]

well, in regards to medical research, not so sure the nazi's did anything really valuable.

fermentor could probably answer that better than i can.

 

we'll both have to wait for him to see this, i guess.

 

 

 

What makes you think I have answers on this subject? I know there was some extremely inhuman treatment, both physically, mentally, and medically. From what I've read most of the medical experiments proved to be failures. Experiments like trying to create superhumans, injecting random things into people, anything you could think of that would not be rationally scientific. I didn't have any family in the Jewish concentration camps, but my grandfather was held in a forced labor camp for a very long time, a camp for Polish people who were not Jewish, gay, black, or gypsies.

[lord_casek]

fermentor: you had mentioned reading alot of books on the subject. that's all.

 

 

caligula: it's "anesthesia"

[the.crooked]

it seems CA is our resident knowledge on this subject

[CACashRefund]

Nah im not that learned on human experimentation

 

Nazis yes

[the.crooked]

well, at least per the information in question.