Dawood Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I do a lot of graf related work for businesses and I know other people are doing the same thing, Love it or hate it, add on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOh Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 how do you approach the businesses? what kind of work (legal, illegal or other) do you show them as a reference? or do you usually know the owners already? just curious how youd present graffiti skills to a business owner who might not dig graffiti in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaq Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 800$ mural.. for Chiquta's Fresh Express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 nice wall nomak... P.S. I didn't do the characters on the Mekqahouse. I'll post some more soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny ballbags Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 hey nomak: you notice that what im assuming is your real name is kinda clearly written in one of those flicks? maybe not the best idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaq Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 i saw that .. my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 yeah, you can contact an admin for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dawood Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 from the activity in this thread it looks like there's not too many writers on the graff hustle. Well, here's a few more. Post some more if you got em nomak, and I know there gotta be more cat's rockin' bodega walls around the way or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sars.Saw.Chicago Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 is that the slogan for the deli?..... lol thats cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 yeah, they got a mean sangwich too. Their big sandwich is a 12'' wide round sourdough sandwich packed. It's definately the business. whew... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 i'm definitely on the hustle. the pink background was done in tokyo for a liquor store. the city scape with redman and a very angry looking method man was done for a hiphop clothes shop in kyoto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 a caddy dealership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 oh, my bad. I approach businesses DEFINATELY NOT as a graff writer or even as an artist. I approach as a sign painter/mural painter advertising company. I have business cards, invoices, etc. etc. I actually do this full time. The best thing to do is build up your portfolio with as many different types of businesses as possible so when you do a certain type of job you can go to similar places and try to duplicate what you did somewhere else. As for $$$, then that varies but I got $1285 for the caddy job. I got $785 + 200 free food for the schlotskys job. those wooden signs I build for $400 then paint for $125 each time they want to change it. theres definately a market out there for graff skills. The most important thing you can have is determination though. check my site. I'm getting ready to update it . http://www.signscientist.com here's a photo site I've been working on http://www.signscientist.photosite.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foodstamps Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Here's a current project of mine. No where near finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaq Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 i would murder that wall ... im talken murder were is that wall.. what state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOTPrep Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 lookin good foodstamps keep updatin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOh Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 oh, my bad. I approach businesses DEFINATELY NOT as a graff writer or even as an artist. I approach as a sign painter/mural painter advertising company. I have business cards, invoices, etc. etc. I actually do this full time. The best thing to do is build up your portfolio with as many different types of businesses as possible so when you do a certain type of job you can go to similar places and try to duplicate what you did somewhere else. As for $$$, then that varies but I got $1285 for the caddy job. I got $785 + 200 free food for the schlotskys job. those wooden signs I build for $400 then paint for $125 each time they want to change it. theres definately a market out there for graff skills. The most important thing you can have is determination though. check my site. I'm getting ready to update it . http://www.signscientist.com here's a photo site I've been working on http://www.signscientist.photosite.com/ dude, i really appreciate this info. you have some nice work on your site too (thought the "about us" section was kinda funny). ive been noodling with the idea of doing this for quite a while now cause im so sick of the 9-5 bs, but i dont have a large portfolio so im working on that. also, is that OneShot your using on the windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodstamps Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Its in Wisconsin. I'll post up the finished wall in oh, I dont know, 2 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 dude' date=' i really appreciate this info. you have some nice work on your site too (thought the "about us" section was kinda funny). ive been noodling with the idea of doing this for quite a while now cause im so sick of the 9-5 bs, but i dont have a large portfolio so im working on that. also, is that OneShot your using on the windows?[/quote'] Thanks, yeah, I'm thinking of changing the about us section. I'd definately say if you got the skills , do it. No doubt, It;s all about being independent and doing what you love. I haven't worked a 9-5 in over 10 years. I use one shot once in a blue moon, man. One shot is expensive and it is more for permanent jobs, not for quicky window splash jobs. I use semi or hi gloss acrylic latex. Benjamin Moore and Porter paints are the best in my opinion, but I use the Lowes 10.99 a gal. paint for super temporary stuff. I only use One shot on windows if there is a problem with latex adhesion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOh Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 alright, alright, your giving me some very valuable info here. if i could throw another query your way, when you first started up how did you go about putting together a portfolio? my thing is i have no experience with paid jobs and i dont want to put graffiti (even legal work, cause its just pieces anyways) in my portfolio so im wondering how to go about it. my idea was to try to get places like non-profits, Salvation Army, etc. to let me do their painting for free just for the experience and then try to build one from there. once i have a few under my belt i figured id be ready to rock. any thoughts on this? much thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruce Lee Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 oh, my bad. I approach businesses DEFINATELY NOT as a graff writer or even as an artist. I approach as a sign painter/mural painter advertising company. I have business cards, invoices, etc. etc. I actually do this full time. The best thing to do is build up your portfolio with as many different types of businesses as possible so when you do a certain type of job you can go to similar places and try to duplicate what you did somewhere else. As for $$$, then that varies but I got $1285 for the caddy job. I got $785 + 200 free food for the schlotskys job. those wooden signs I build for $400 then paint for $125 each time they want to change it. theres definately a market out there for graff skills. The most important thing you can have is determination though. check my site. I'm getting ready to update it . http://www.signscientist.com here's a photo site I've been working on http://www.signscientist.photosite.com/ sounds like a fun job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 alright, alright, your giving me some very valuable info here. if i could throw another query your way, when you first started up how did you go about putting together a portfolio? my thing is i have no experience with paid jobs and i dont want to put graffiti (even legal work, cause its just pieces anyways) in my portfolio so im wondering how to go about it. my idea was to try to get places like non-profits, Salvation Army, etc. to let me do their painting for free just for the experience and then try to build one from there. once i have a few under my belt i figured id be ready to rock. any thoughts on this? much thanks again. OK, True story. I worked at home depot for about 2 years. One day I approached my boss and asked him if I could paint the homer guy on the wall from one of the brochures they had. I told him I wouldn't charge him except that I could use their paint and I could be on the clock while I did it. I convinced him that he didn't have much to lose because If it looked horrible I would paint over it, but I assured him I could do a proffessional job. So I did it and a week later there was district meeting where all the managers from every store (about 30 or so) came to our store and they all loved it. So I was hired to paint every Home Depot in my area and then in a whole other district. I painted a LOT of Home depots for $350-$425 a pop depending on how far I had to go. So anyway, At that point I figured I could do this full time, I had already been painting neighborhood bodega/soul food joints/hip hop gear shops so I had a little portfolio. Best thing is to hit spots in your neighborhood. People who know you got skills. I always had a rep for being the ill graf cat in my city so, it wasn't hard to get lil side jobs all the time. I would recommend keeping whatever job you have for now until you feel comfortable enough to make that leap (or until you get fired because you hate your job and you know you can do better elsewhwere) I eventually got canned from Home Depot and that's when I started my business. I did Tattoos for a while but that wasn't for me and then I started my sign gig. It is a fun Job, after work I can paint a peice with the leftover paint or vice versa, I can make some ends from scrap paint off the peice I rocked a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOh Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 i remember wanting to paint that little Home Depot guy. kinda reminds me of a buff guy character Cycle did next to one of his pieces that said "another one for your fun" (saw it in an issue of 12oz. actually). just looked fun to paint. also, i didnt notice the vehicle lettering on your site before, how is that done? im guessing Illustrator??? well, im pretty much going to do what you suggested and start off in my neighborhood and try to build my portfolio. i really want to make this work. the other day i counted how many businesses along maybe a two mile stretch of street that had splash on their windows; it was quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny ballbags Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 good to see you doin youre thing out there da..... i remember that home depot ish.... i think i ran into you there one day when i was a youngster gettin paint.... i think i might have even pulled out my book on some toy shit and had you get up in it.... lol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yeah, I used to let writers come in and get over on paint. I worked in the paint dept. so they used to come in and I would give them the block so they could rack. ha, ha, no wonder I got fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Why not sketch out your graff style jobs first, scan into signlab/pal whatever you use, cover to outlines, & then cut out on bright vinly, and apply in layers. The result wood be a lot cleaner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 5, 2006 Author Share Posted August 5, 2006 some jobs are cool with vinyl, but most graff style jobs it's 150% easier to just break out some cans and get bizzy. Vinyl raises the cost of the Job, brings more design/production time into it and vinyl won't work on some surfaces like concrete, brick, etc. I use vinyl all the time but definately not on graff style jobs (except for a few exceptions) just my preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dawood have you ever used water based sealants on your work? Faux painting books recommend using them but i havent used them with spraypaint before. just curious because alot of the work i get is because i guarantee free touchups for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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