fastZeetec302 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 so.. we know its thermite, we know its a inside job and we know bush 'knew' about it. but nobody knows what "company" just waltz's in the wtc and closes off several floors to place c4/thermite whatever. plus why do all this shit when 'they' know 2 jets filled with fuel would be flying into them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 so.. we know its thermite, we know its a inside job and we know bush 'knew' about it. but nobody knows what "company" just waltz's in the wtc and closes off several floors to place c4/thermite whatever. plus why do all this shit when 'they' know 2 jets filled with fuel would be flying into them anyway. Yeah, actually there was a name thrown around but I fail to recall which. I'm not even sure if it was credible or not, but I do know that the WTC buildings 1 and 2 were closed 2 weeks prior to the tragedy on September 11th. I would imagine it was thermate, which is close to thermite, but it burns hotter due to a sulfur additive. Why set cutter charges to take down the building after the fact? I dunno. Maybe it was in case the planes didn't do the damage? Maybe they knew the planes wouldn't knock down 1 and 2 and decided they wanted to knock them down anyway (see: Silverstein's insurance policy/fight with provider. Also, see building code costs for replacing asbestos, etc. that Silverstein was facing). Building 7 also housed a bunch of intelligencia. FBI, CIA, etc. were all headquartered for NYC in Building 7. Perhaps two birds with one stone? Towers 1/2 to commit insurance fraud and reap loads of cash, while also putting the fear of God into U.S. citizens, 7 to get rid of operations evidence? We could speculate back and forth all day. I don't claim to have all of the answers, but from what I saw that day, I know that something is rotten in Denmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastZeetec302 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 i saw planes filled with people flying into buildings, then those buildings fall. destroying shit for blocks. but like you said we could go back and fourth forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 i saw planes filled with people flying into buildings, then those buildings fall. destroying shit for blocks. but like you said we could go back and fourth forever. I saw planes hit 2 buildings that fell at free fall speed, one that was not hit fall at free fall speed, The Pentagon with a small hole in it, and a plane that was probably shot out of the sky and covered up with some "Let's roll!" bullshit Jessica Lynch feel good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 i saw planes filled with people flying into buildings, then those buildings fall. destroying shit for blocks. but like you said we could go back and fourth forever. Yeah? Me too. Except I didn't watch it on T.V. I had a pretty good view of what happened from Edgewater St. Listen, I've mentioned this dozens of times in this thread only to see people straight up ignore it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi0bDy-6m3o It's testimony from William Rodriguez, someone who actually worked in the towers for 20 years, survived the 93 bombings, which the FBI admitted it was involved in. He saved around 20 people (probably more) on 9/11. **EDIT** BTW: Don't pay attention to the kid who uploaded the video with his random cut's with him agreeing with what Mr. Rodriguez just said, or "yea that's wierd". Shit is stupid, just pay attention to what the man is saying. Also, like i've mentioned it before, if dude is still traveling and spreading his message, and happens to be local to you, hearing his message in person makes all the difference. I think his opinion, along with multiple reports from emergency workers and other survivors that explosions went off before the planes hit, and even afterwards. Oh yeah, his testimony was also not inserted into the 9/11 Commission's Report. But yeah, I guess we could go back and forth forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah? Me too. Except I didn't watch it on T.V. I had a pretty good view of what happened from Edgewater St. Listen, I've mentioned this dozens of times in this thread only to see people straight up ignore it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi0bDy-6m3o It's testimony from William Rodriguez, someone who actually worked in the towers for 20 years, survived the 93 bombings, which the FBI admitted it was involved in. He saved around 20 people (probably more) on 9/11. **EDIT** BTW: Don't pay attention to the kid who uploaded the video with his random cut's with him agreeing with what Mr. Rodriguez just said, or "yea that's wierd". Shit is stupid, just pay attention to what the man is saying. Also, like i've mentioned it before, if dude is still traveling and spreading his message, and happens to be local to you, hearing his message in person makes all the difference. I think his opinion, along with multiple reports from emergency workers and other survivors that explosions went off before the planes hit, and even afterwards. Oh yeah, his testimony was also not inserted into the 9/11 Commission's Report. But yeah, I guess we could go back and forth forever. Don't forget Norman Mineta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastZeetec302 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 lol like i said. every truther (yuck) get their shit from youtube videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 lol like i said. every truther (yuck) get their shit from youtube videos. Thing is, that Norman Mineta testimony was on CSPAN. Youtube is just handy like that. Why would you want me to point to a CSPAN 9/11 Commission hearing and say "scan to 35:13 in day two of the hearing" just to show you a five minute clip? Here are a bunch of architects who say something is fishy with how the three buildings fell http://ae911truth.org/ A bunch of pilots, too http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/ These pilots say that the maneuver pulled to hit the Pentagon was impossible. They would know. Maybe I'm not credible, but those people certainly are. Here are some more. These people are military, intelligence, and government http://patriotsquestion911.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastZeetec302 Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 time to smoke an L and watch these videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 My dude, his testimony is not some you tube made up case against the official story. It was just recorded and uploaded onto you tube so, people who can't make it to said events where the man travels telling his story can actually hear what he has to say. There is a difference between some random video put together by people with no qualifications, and what I'm trying to show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM&t=0m24s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 He is obviously a misinformation agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 This is airing on History now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Noam Chomsky says "Who cares? if 9/11 is an inside job." At least the last time I heard Chomsky talk on the issue it is basically what he had to say. I don't believe Chomsky is a "misinformation agent". I think because of his experience, it leads him to take a more "realistic" approach, which the fact that it was an inside job is irrelevant, the relevant part is that it happened, and the obvious affect it has on public and government policy, that has global impact. But, I wouldn't base if it was an inside job or not on Chomsky's shoulders. Like I've been beating the drum, I would trust someone who was actually in the towers that day, over anyone else. ____________________ This is airing on History now. WuT mOuR UTubE? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Noam Chomsky says "Who cares? if 9/11 is an inside job." At least the last time I heard Chomsky talk on the issue it is basically what he had to say. I don't believe Chomsky is a "misinformation agent". I think because of his experience, it leads him to take a more "realistic" approach, which the fact that it was an inside job is irrelevant, the relevant part is that it happened, and the obvious affect it has on public and government policy, that has global impact. But, I wouldn't base if it was an inside job or not on Chomsky's shoulders. Like I've been beating the drum, I would trust someone who was actually in the towers that day, over anyone else. ! You are missing Chomsky's main point. The point is that a conspiracy to blow up the towers could not happen because it requires too many people to keep a secret, and if the secret gets out, the Republican party would be done. There is no need to appeal to the science of how everything went down. The 9/11 conspiracy theory comes down to how many people are required to pull it off and keep the secret. Anyone with half a brain can see that most of the conspiracy theories require 100's if not 1000's of people to keep their mouths shut about a mass murder committed on their own people for nearly 10 years. That defies logic. Cannot, would not, will not happen, ever, not without the secret immediately leaking. Think about Iran/Contra, the CIA protecting crack dealers in LA, the Bay of Pigs, etc... When could the government keep secrets successfully? They can't. It's a waste of time to speculate about the conspiracy because there are far more important things that can and do happen that people could be spending their energy on. Think about it... really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 You are missing Chomsky's main point. The point is that a conspiracy to blow up the towers could not happen because it requires too many people to keep a secret, and if the secret gets out, the Republican party would be done. There is no need to appeal to the science of how everything went down. The 9/11 conspiracy theory comes down to how many people are required to pull it off and keep the secret. Anyone with half a brain can see that most of the conspiracy theories require 100's if not 1000's of people to keep their mouths shut about a mass murder committed on their own people for nearly 10 years. That defies logic. Cannot, would not, will not happen, ever, not without the secret immediately leaking. Think about Iran/Contra, the CIA protecting crack dealers in LA, the Bay of Pigs, etc... When could the government keep secrets successfully? They can't. It's a waste of time to speculate about the conspiracy because there are far more important things that can and do happen that people could be spending their energy on. Think about it... really. But numerous people have come out, they are ignored and pushed to the side. I almost daily at this point out witnesses that have sad things that are not only ignored here in this thread, but in public debate. And all other information pointing to the inconsistencies in the official story are "conspiracy theory" garbage. However, I look at the direction that this country and the world is post 9/11. Most of the decisions that are made are to prevent something like 9/11 ever happening again, if the event was allowed to happen, as opposed to what we are lead to believe I think the dynamic, the road we are taking and the majority of measures that we have taken are incorrect and would not have the support of the people. Think of the legislation, the racism, the overall public affect 9/11 has had on the U.S. and the world. Now think how most people would feel if the veil was lifted, and the truth revealed. Think about that. As to the other things you've brought up, like the CIA and drugs, for YEARS I would say they got away with it, it took years before the truth was revealed to the masses, and to this day people would still fight that our own government brings drugs into the U.S. Or the idea that the Gulf of Tonkin was a set up. Personally, I don't know if we'll ever know the entire truth as to what happened on 9/11. Most people who would speak, and have the access to the information mysteriously died, before shortly after or on the day itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 As to the other things you've brought up, like the CIA and drugs, for YEARS I would say they got away with it, it took years before the truth was revealed to the masses, and to this day people would still fight that our own government brings drugs into the U.S. Or the idea that the Gulf of Tonkin was a set up. Personally, I don't know if we'll ever know the entire truth as to what happened on 9/11. Most people who would speak, and have the access to the information mysteriously died, before shortly after or on the day itself. The CIA crack thing was revealed almost immediately, there was some revealed in the Iran/Contra investigation, and further details were teased out by a Justice Department investigation in 1997. Whatever your opinion on Gulf on Tonkin, the event happend in foreign waters with little in the way of investigation after the fact. 9/11 was investigated by thousands of people and happened live on TV, on American soil, and resulted in more than 2000 Americans being killed in the three simultaneous events. There are no witnesses that have come forward, as far as I know, that have made a claim of pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11 within the government. It is simply not possible to keep a secret among that many people for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 The CIA crack thing was revealed almost immediately, there was some revealed in the Iran/Contra investigation, and further details were teased out by a Justice Department investigation in 1997. Whatever your opinion on Gulf on Tonkin, the event happend in foreign waters with little in the way of investigation after the fact. 9/11 was investigated by thousands of people and happened live on TV, on American soil, and resulted in more than 2000 Americans being killed in the three simultaneous events. There are no witnesses that have come forward, as far as I know, that have made a claim of pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11 within the government. It is simply not possible to keep a secret among that many people for 10 years. Norman Mineta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Norman Mineta. Norman Mineta what? And the quote above doesn't tell me he knew anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Norman Mineta what? And the quote above doesn't tell me he knew anything. The order was to either a) shoot down the plane or b) not shoot down the plane. Which one do you think Cheney was referring to? Chomsky is also a chumpsky. It wouldn't take very many people to be involved. Not 1,000's as suggested by your lordship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The order was to either a) shoot down the plane or b) not shoot down the plane. Which one do you think Cheney was referring to? . It may not be that simple... How long does it take a plane to cover 50 miles? About 6 minutes. And I don't know what Cheney was referring to. Lack of evidence isn't evidence. And everyone that investigated 9/11 would have to ignore evidence it was an inside job. Hence, 1000's of people would be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 It may not be that simple... How long does it take a plane to cover 50 miles? About 6 minutes. And I don't know what Cheney was referring to. Lack of evidence isn't evidence. And everyone that investigated 9/11 would have to ignore evidence it was an inside job. Hence, 1000's of people would be required. Evidence was ignored in the 9/11 Commission report. What Cheney was referring to: It was either one thing or the other and we know the plane headed towards the Pentagon was not shot down. "Do the orders still stand" implies exactly what you think it implies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 It was one thing or another doesnt mean that its what you say because it cant be proven otherwise. If it was true, why wasnt more done about it? Why was it allowed in the 9/11 commision report "cover-up" if it is contradicting what the "cover-up" report is trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 It was one thing or another doesnt mean that its what you say because it cant be proven otherwise. If it was true, why wasnt more done about it? Why was it allowed in the 9/11 commision report "cover-up" if it is contradicting what the "cover-up" report is trying to make. Well, he didn't mean an order of fries and a milkshake. Mineta's testimony was excluded from the 9/11 Commission Report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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