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you arent only ignoring(for the last 2 weeks) pointing out mistakes about tv fakery videos(you did in only one, and you were right, come on you can be right in all maybe) that i have posted here but also claiming that theres people saying in 911 there were no towers.

you are desperate theo. seeking for reasons to call people crazy, put them all in the same bag.

 

you laugh and joke about tragedy, but you will accept and learn when truth comes. but dont be afraid i wont be all cocky and laugh at your face like you would do in such situation.

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you arent only ignoring(for the last 2 weeks) pointing out mistakes about tv fakery videos(you did in only one, and you were right, come on you can be right in all maybe) that i have posted here but also claiming that theres people saying in 911 there were no towers.

you are desperate theo. seeking for reasons to call people crazy, put them all in the same bag.

 

you laugh and joke about tragedy, but you will accept and learn when truth comes. but dont be afraid i wont be all cocky and laugh at your face like you would do in such situation.

 

 

i laugh and joke about the inside-jobbers and some of the things they spew, not the tragedy itself. there you go again with your smear-tactics.

 

oh, and i read the "no towers" theory on a couple sites. i can't remember one of them, but one i remember was http://www.nineeleven.co.uk

 

here's one particular thread talking about the "no towers" theory: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=37148&sid=766a490e223e6b60ade0f3dc0104896b

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i dont use smear tactics i just find disturbing the way you always behave in this thread like posting things to ignore articles and discussing stuff. because yes, pancake theory is a joke but apart from posting dave shappel's prince serving pancakes i cant recall acting like a clown about all the theories you believe in.

 

"no towers theory" : people is saying in some of the shots, videos, pictures the towers were tampered or completely faked, which is not NO TOWERS ON 911(real time, physically) like you said.

they say the towers weren't there on 9/11 and that it was a large holograph.

 

if you cant see that they are not talking about no towers at all, you cant point out mistakes from the videos ive posted, post a extremely faked "video" of the first strike, you cant stay on topic and go through one issue at the time, you cant read or pay attention to the posts, why should i have take you seriously. you are a waste of time,theo. i mean, i dont even know if you read or understood what i just said?

im just showing links of tv fakery stuff for the people who already have accepted 911 was an inside job.

they cant either say anything about the videos but at least they dont start talking about no towers and making jokes like you do.

yumone is gone

mamerro just says a few words

russell is gone

pubes is gone

people come and shout things like "because planes hit them"

you are the only one still defending that nonsense theory of the fictional alqaeda.

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i dont use smear tactics i just find disturbing the way you always behave in this thread like posting things to ignore articles and discussing stuff. because yes, pancake theory is a joke but apart from posting dave shappel's prince serving pancakes i cant recall acting like a clown about all the theories you believe in.

 

You're being unrealistic -- you seem to be irritated that I post things that pertain to 9/11 in a 9/11 thread, because it's not in direct response to what you've said. Am I supposed to respond to every single post you ever make in this thread, and if I don't I'm "ignoring"? Juan, how come you don't respond to everything I say then? It doesn't bother me that you don't, but I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.

 

"no towers theory" : people is saying in some of the shots, videos, pictures the towers were tampered or completely faked, which is not NO TOWERS ON 911(real time, physically) like you said.

 

That's ONE way to look at it. However, the link I provided you revealed couple people that ascertained that there were NO TOWERS on 9/11.

 

if you cant see that they are not talking about no towers at all, you cant point out mistakes from the videos ive posted, post a extremely faked "video" of the first strike,

 

The "video" was meshed together by still screen-shots. The plane was added in the first portion to calculate where the plane was while the camera was not filming. However, the images of the plane and the explosion are 100% real. El Mammero posted the link to the Vanity Fair website, which provided the photos and included the background information behind it (and the artist that took them). You were beating your chest about it being completely fake, and then when the Vanity Fair website confirmed that these were from a series of stop-motion photos taken, proving it was real; then you got silent on the subject.

 

you cant stay on topic and go through one issue at the time, you cant read or pay attention to the posts,

 

There was a time period where I would respond to most of the posts on here, but if there were 30 posts, and I responded to 27 of them, you would get angry and claim I'm ignoring posts. You're a very irrational, unrealistic, self-serving individual.

 

why should i have take you seriously. you are a waste of time,theo. i mean, i dont even know if you read or understood what i just said?

im just showing links of tv fakery stuff for the people who already have accepted 911 was an inside job.

they cant either say anything about the videos but at least they dont start talking about no towers and making jokes like you do.

yumone is gone

mamerro just says a few words

russell is gone

pubes is gone

people come and shout things like "because planes hit them"

you are the only one still defending that nonsense theory of the fictional alqaeda.

 

Yumone still appears from time-to-time. I've stopped coming here for long durations, and then came back again. What is your point? The preponderance of who appears in this thread at certain time periods is not a representation of how many people believe the official story or the wacky conspiracy theories. Just because yumone, myself, or anyone else may stop posting here doesn't mean that we still wouldn't "defend" our own beliefs. It only means we stopped posting here for whatever reason that may be (most likely unrelated to 9/11 discussion at all).

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that's what your brain thinks theo.

i respond to everything you say when you direct it to me.

mistakes happen, yeah, im not being a extreme whiner on you.

 

 

but

 

 

you still ignoring the main thing i want.

you know what it is.

 

i wont discuss about anything else with you until you take care of that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i leave a tv fakery video, 40 minutes, for you all to try to debunk.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4036784332125730708&q=911taboo&total=65&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

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that's what your brain thinks theo.

i respond to everything you say when you direct it to me.

mistakes happen, yeah, im not being a extreme whiner on you.

 

Not really. I asked a simple question not long ago, on how you and Casek differ on your views, and you threw a temper-tantrum and said you wouldn't explain. Also, in reference to a lot of the things you're "whining" about, me supposedly "ignoring" you; many of those particular posts didn't even address me directly.

 

 

but

 

 

 

you still ignoring the main thing i want.

you know what it is.

 

i wont discuss about anything else with you until you take care of that.

 

i really don't know what you're talking about. you've posted a lot of videos and it's hard to keep track of everything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i'm at someone else's house right now but i'll take a look at it when i get home.

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Isn't that article just implying that Bush knew an attack was coming, but let it happen? In other words, Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks and not the U.S. government?

 

Although being criminally-negligent should be taken seriously, how does that help your argument about controlled demolitions and an inside job?

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Isn't that article just implying that Bush knew an attack was coming, but let it happen? In other words, Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks and not the U.S. government?

 

Although being criminally-negligent should be taken seriously, how does that help your argument about controlled demolitions and an inside job?

 

colonel butler trained mohammed atta.

 

when atta caae into the country, he was detained, but was let go after a letter with cia logo on it said to let him go because he was their agent.

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tv fakery is a psyop and the word TV in tv fakery does not involved holograph images in real time.

 

i would like to see where u read that the towers werent there on 911, because that's the first time i heard it.

the towers, and the explosion seem to be faked in the hezarkhani video. they even threw a little satanic art into it adding the little smoke devil. . . . the towers look too short and close to the white hall building and more details that you can find if you get into looking at what people have found out.

 

Haha Your a nut!

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From the Ron Paul thread... I can't believe I have to prove this to someone.

 

what? When did they find solid evidence that there were people on the planes when they hit the building?

 

http://www.patriotresource.com/wtc/victims/11.html

 

http://www.patriotresource.com/wtc/victims/175.html

 

http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/victims_list.htm

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-flight11.htm

 

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html

 

How much more proof do you want? Or did you want like their social security numbers, addresses, birth certificates?

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maybe this will wake you up?

 

9/11 Commissioner: 'We had to go through Karl Rove'

Two recent segments delve into a new book that accuses the head of the ostensibly independent 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, of being beholden to the Bush Administration during his tenure.

 

The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation, by New York Times reporter Philip Shenon, indicts Zelikow on his ties with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and his frequent contact with senior political adviser Karl Rove, during what was touted as an independent investigation into the events surrounding the 2001 World Trade Center attack. This seeming conflict of interest, the book says, led Commission staffers not to trust Zelikow.

 

"We found him to be very fair-minded," counters co-chair Lee Hamilton, "quite impartial, very rigorous in his searching out of the facts; and he certainly did not try to protect the Bush Administration, or to protect anybody else."

 

9/11 Commission member John Lehman goes on to tell MSNBC that it was impossible not to go through Karl Rove when documents such as presidential daily briefings were needed. Many Commission members, he says, pressed the White House to provide more information and lift restrictions on a regular basis.

 

"We had to go through Karl Rove, and through [Attorney General Alberto] Gonzales and the other most senior members," says Lehman. He indeed hoped that Zelikow was talking to Karl Rove, although he expressed disappointment that contact with the White House wasn't more frequent towards the beginning of the investigations.

 

On charges that a mass of NSA records on al-Qaeda went unreviewed by the Commission, Lehman says that nothing new would have come about as a result of obtaining that data besides more text to put into the final Commission report.

 

The Commission is due to be published on February 5.

 

The following video is from NBC's Nightly News and MSNBC's News Live, broadcast February 2 and 3, 2008.

 

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/911_Commissioner_We_had_to_go_0203.html

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looks like clinton spun and avoided the topic once again by not proposing how the hijackers and bin laden are working in co-operation with the u.s. govt. Even so we've known they were going to bomb those towers again since 94' and many in the govt have been eagerly waiting for it to happen and not trying to stop it in anyway, shape or form...

 

lady liberty isn't holding a torch, shes waving goodbye...

 

wheres walt whitman when we need him

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