lord_casek Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Zeitgeist Movie 9/11 segment part 1 - 4 (sorry if this is a repost) We don't take kindly to Zeitgeist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 We don't take kindly to Zeitgeist. your opinions are your opinions.............but i know that they're are people who do not realize the true people involved........im not asleep any more...and its time for the rest of us to awaken. this is a war of ignorance and awareness......i choose awareness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSent Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Couldn't say it better myself. /\ tic tacs given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Jesus Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 your opinions are your opinions.............but i know that they're are people who do not realize the true people involved........im not asleep any more...and its time for the rest of us to awaken. this is a war of ignorance and awareness......i choose awareness... I know quite a bit about the worlds elite. I also know that Zeitgeist is the most retarded thing I've ever seen. C'mon, son. Negs given to counter any posi's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I can't believe the phenomenon that is Zeitgeist. It isn't the "worst" thing I've ever seen, but it isn't so groundbreaking or even fully factual to the point where it should have this ridiculous amount of support. But again, look at the people who tend to gravitate towards the movie and everything starts to make more sense. I've been to at least one of the stops that Peter Joseph had, listened to what Jacque whatever his name and his colleagues had to say, I agree with some of it, but I look at their "solution" to the problems the world faces as just another mechanism for control from the powers that be. Some of their idea's for the future, as to how the human race can "evolve" are rather interesting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 WATCH WTC 7 FALL!!!!!! its was an inside job and I will die for that statement!!!! water the tree of liberty!!! Great post, looking forward to reading more. Propped for great contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Physics teacher analysis of wtc 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dear wearekilluminati: Thanks for the posi prop. Not that I need 'em. I'm glad you don't think I know what I'm talking about. http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108444&highlight=elite Sincerely, Go Fuck Yourself, Cocksucka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Dear wearekilluminati: Thanks for the posi prop. Not that I need 'em. I'm glad you don't think I know what I'm talking about. http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108444&highlight=elite Sincerely, Go Fuck Yourself, Cocksucka dude your the one sending me a rep saying NOPE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what the fuck do you mean by that..........? and the link you posted up the intel is nothing new to me.......and ye aill give you props on that.......dicklicker............asscunt.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I looked at what William Rodriguez said about the day of the attacks. I do not see anything in his testimony that contradicts the "official" story. His conclusions are different, but I don't see how he is qualified to make those assessments. Besides, he testified that he saw one of the terrorists scoping out the building. I guess I'm missing something. The preponderance of evidence seems to support the official explanation. Finding problems with the official evidence that may or may not be valid does not outweigh the evidence for the official explanation. Until that evidence is available, why assume that the official story is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 I looked at what William Rodriguez said about the day of the attacks. I do not see anything in his testimony that contradicts the "official" story. His conclusions are different, but I don't see how he is qualified to make those assessments. Besides, he testified that he saw one of the terrorists scoping out the building. I guess I'm missing something. The preponderance of evidence seems to support the official explanation. Finding problems with the official evidence that may or may not be valid does not outweigh the evidence for the official explanation. Until that evidence is available, why assume that the official story is wrong? He talks about a bomb going off in the basement. You may have missed that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I looked at what William Rodriguez said about the day of the attacks. I do not see anything in his testimony that contradicts the "official" story. His conclusions are different, but I don't see how he is qualified to make those assessments. Besides, he testified that he saw one of the terrorists scoping out the building. I guess I'm missing something. The preponderance of evidence seems to support the official explanation. Finding problems with the official evidence that may or may not be valid does not outweigh the evidence for the official explanation. Until that evidence is available, why assume that the official story is wrong? He talked about multiple explosion's happening before and after the Planes hit the buildings, he talks about where those explosion's took place, and the weird things he came across while rescuing people from the building. Things that did not occur during the 93 bombings at the WTC. For instance, the first explosion that rocked the building he says happened before either plane hit either building. Which he says happened in one of the sub basements. Don't know how you missed that stuff though. Watch the link I posted and the remaining parts it was split up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 He talked about multiple explosion's happening before and after the Planes hit the buildings, he talks about where those explosion's took place, and the weird things he came across while rescuing people from the building. Things that did not occur during the 93 bombings at the WTC. For instance, the first explosion that rocked the building he says happened before either plane hit either building. Which he says happened in one of the sub basements. Don't know how you missed that stuff though. Watch the link I posted and the remaining parts it was split up to. He talks about hearing an explosion seconds before the plane hit. How he could tell this happened before the plane hit when he was inside the building I do not know. He talks about hearing explosions, he does not say he saw a bomb. As far as I can see, it's all based on his perceptions. Maybe your link he adds embellishment to the story, but none of what he says leads me to believe that he heard or saw anything that points to a bomb going off in the building. Him calling the explosions a bomb is his conclusion, not what he saw or heard. I'd rather avoid the videos. If you have his statements in writing that is quicker for me to process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunt sauce Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I really don't know why you're wasting your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 He talks about hearing an explosion seconds before the plane hit. How he could tell this happened before the plane hit when he was inside the building I do not know. He talks about hearing explosions, he does not say he saw a bomb. As far as I can see, it's all based on his perceptions. Maybe your link he adds embellishment to the story, but none of what he says leads me to believe that he heard or saw anything that points to a bomb going off in the building. Him calling the explosions a bomb is his conclusion, not what he saw or heard. I'd rather avoid the videos. If you have his statements in writing that is quicker for me to process. "I'd rather avoid the videos." seriously you are a waste of precious oxygen.............wake up or shut up................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 It's a scientists analytical mind at work. He's not doing that as a "fuck you" to anyone. Much respect to you, Russell. You're looking into something you probably never would have looked into that deeply in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Please ignore idiots like this guy.... I really don't know why you're wasting your time. And this guy... "I'd rather avoid the videos." seriously you are a waste of precious oxygen.............wake up or shut up................. Anyway, I don't know where an actual transcript of his story is. So, I'm going to take quote's out of one of the video's from one of the stops he made talking about what happened. Specifically, this one... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4380137365762802294# Just to give you some perspective though, this man is traveling or at least was traveling the globe telling his version of the official story, which obviously isn't the governments version, otherwise there would be no point to him doing what he is doing. He has stopped at venue's hosted by Alex Jones, yes I know most of you don't like or even respect what the man does, but I'm just trying to give you an idea of where he stands on what happened that day. It's contradictory to the official story. Not aligning with it. "As I was talking to a supervisor at 8:46 we we're chit chatting, I heard a boom. An explosion so hard that pushed us upwards, upwards, now 20 years in the building, remember that, and it came from the basement between the B2 and B3 level. At that moment I thought it was the mechanical room where they had all of their pumps and generators for the building. That maybe a generator blew up in the basement, now 20 years in the building you know if something comes from the bottom or the top. At that moment everybody started screaming, the explosion was so hard the walls cracked, the false ceiling fell on us the sprinkler system got activated, and when I went to verbalize it was a generator we heard a BOOM from all of the way on the top, the impact of the plane on the top, two different events at two different times, Later on I thought that they probably didn't syncronize it well, because it came out in he investigation that the explosion was the weaken the base and foundation of the building with the top so the building will fall automatically, but it didn't." This took me awhile, I'm going to do more, just be patient please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 "As I was talking to a supervisor at 8:46 we we're chit chatting, I heard a boom. An explosion so hard that pushed us upwards, upwards, now 20 years in the building, remember that, and it came from the basement between the B2 and B3 level. At that moment I thought it was the mechanical room where they had all of their pumps and generators for the building. That maybe a generator blew up in the basement, now 20 years in the building you know if something comes from the bottom or the top. At that moment everybody started screaming, the explosion was so hard the walls cracked, the false ceiling fell on us the sprinkler system got activated, and when I went to verbalize it was a generator we heard a BOOM from all of the way on the top, the impact of the plane on the top, two different events at two different times, Later on I thought that they probably didn't syncronize it well, because it came out in he investigation that the explosion was the weaken the base and foundation of the building with the top so the building will fall automatically, but it didn't." This took me awhile, I'm going to do more, just be patient please. I don't see what conclusions can be drawn from this. I don't believe he, you or I could draw any conclusions from what he heard. But he does. He heard explosions, that's all I get. Besides, where's the corroboration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Physics teacher analysis of wtc 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&feature=player_embedded Maybe this guy is more in line with your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zig Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't see what conclusions can be drawn from this. I don't believe he, you or I could draw any conclusions from what he heard. But he does. He heard explosions, that's all I get. Besides, where's the corroboration? it's an eye witness account that was excluded from the official story's conclusion on the events... the guy was literally in the buildings as they were being attacked hearing multiple explosions at the base of the building before a plane had even hit it. how can you not draw a conclusion from that? there are plenty of other eye witnesses who can corroborate that there were multiple explosions that day prior to the plane hitting the towers and afterwards as well, they are just ignored... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissdrunkwhat?! Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ockham's razor... And out of respect I am not here to debate. a couple of you whoms opinion i respect highly... but even 10 years (almost) later i still (and please believe im a decently read individual) dont think you can read that far into the actual event. what came of, and about because of it is a wholly different story. i definitely believe people capitalized off of it but i think that was cowardly and generational. if you want to go after someone, it wasnt a dude putting thermite in pillars in the wtc. id really like to believe atleast, the amount of AMERICANS it would take to pull that off couldnt happen. that many people could not be that shitty and by now still say nothing. this is not a case of "stop snitchin" im probably by all means of the phrase a terrible person. but ive seen so much about our corrupt government in and before these 9/11 videos and alex jones (not to specify him) that i think corruption is deeper than a (what i see to be) a blatant attack by someone who has done these same attack against america before. a real hero, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud peace be upon him. and in this area, im always a respectful individual so i would prefer to keep conversation as such, i wont argue.... round these parts :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 it's an eye witness account that was excluded from the official story's conclusion on the events... the guy was literally in the buildings as they were being attacked hearing multiple explosions at the base of the building before a plane had even hit it. how can you not draw a conclusion from that? there are plenty of other eye witnesses who can corroborate that there were multiple explosions that day prior to the plane hitting the towers and afterwards as well, they are just ignored... There is an important point all of you are missing here. Say, for the sake of argument, that there were bombs going off in the basement before the planes hit. Then why would it take an hour for the building to collapse? Wouldn't there be a huge explosion at the moment the buildings fell? If conspirators in the government had planned the attack, then setting off an explosion as the plane hit would be colossally stupid. Unless the explosion is meant to bring down the building, there is no reason for them to set them off. Case closed. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndRodeo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I didn't bother reading this dumbass paper. Every newyorker knows that the twin towers were designed to collapse upon themselves SO that they wouldn't fall over and kill not only the people inside, but the people underneath their shadows. Yes, there were weakened areas of the building. It is only logical that there should be. Furthermore, I went to P.S. 234, an elementary school down the street and i didn't hear shit but the first plane. What a day that was.... But what i want to know is why should it matter if bombs went off in the basement? It would have been the same jackoffs who put it there. Their motive, however-- Wait, i think i might see what the psycho paper-guy is trying to suggest. IN the basements of the twin towers, gold was kept. Like... a shit-ton of America's gold. With a sudden SUBSTANTIAL decrease in the supply of American gold, stocks would have broken the charts. Anyone who was invested in gold on the day, retired the second news of the twin towers' fallings hit national televisions. Here's why this is relevant. There is a rumor that the attacks were forewarned. I saw the warning letter to US (fake or real, idk) where binladen explained why he was mad and how he was going to seek revenge. The story was that he was abandoned by the Us or something. Anywany, the question is whether or not the letter was real. The letter being real, some may have said, "if the attack is going to happen anyway, fuck it, might as well ensure that we get something out of it... with this bomb!" The letter being fake, those same people could have fabricated the whole farfetch'd story of Bin Laden being an ex us operative scorned, while somehow convincing the smarter, more influential religious leaders of... uhm... iraq? ... to convince their illiterate peons to commit "jihad". Either way, like i said, I didn't hear shit explode of feel the ground shake but at the impact of the first plane, but my conclusion doesn't sound half bad, does it? neverminding my lack of exact information and typos lol. I got the gist of my crazy theory down :p Should I read the stupid paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndRodeo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 But that being said, the gold, account to wiki :p was help in WTC 4, one of the low-rise buildings. I don't trust wiki though. The vault that i speak of, correction is not only one of the largest in america, but one ofthe largest in the world. Either way, I don't care. I try not to think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Alright so how do all the 9/11 Troofers feel about Charlie Sheen now. "OMG HE'Z AN ACTOR SO WHEN HE SAYS 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB HE MUST BE RIGHT!" After his latest psychotic tirades I'm not sure this is the guy you want to represent your movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Charlie Sheen was just voicing his opinion. The fact that he is in the public eye, and came out and said those things at the time was what the commotion was about. Not his expertise or the fact that he's the authority on anything. Not to mention, I do not think he is the guy representing any movement, besides the movement to sniff coke and fuck pornstars. I guess you can look at it the way you want though. Chuck Norris is the guy that I'd chose, I mean when he does push up's he's actually pushing the world down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zig Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Alright so how do all the 9/11 Troofers feel about Charlie Sheen now. "OMG HE'Z AN ACTOR SO WHEN HE SAYS 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB HE MUST BE RIGHT!" After his latest psychotic tirades I'm not sure this is the guy you want to represent your movement. I've watched all of them, and I disagree with the general consensus that they are "psychotic tirades". The man actually seems to have a firm understanding of the perception average people have of him, and he is truthfully telling people he does not give a fuck. And why should he? What he does is his own business, he's taken responsibility for his behavior and has shown everyone that he can get clean and does not have an addiction issue and is doing harm to no one but himself. So what is that any business of yours? Who are you to judge whether or not he is "psychotic", you're nobody. Are you even a therapist or educated in psychiatry or anything of the sort? No, so shut the fuck up. How do I feel about the man? I think he has more balls than you and anyone else who can sit behind a television screen, or a computer monitor, and judge him for his own personal downfalls, that's what I think. He isn't "representative" of any movement either, he was simply voicing his heartfelt opinions about an event that has had an impact on ALL of our lives. He showed more courage than any other person in his position to put himself out there in the limelight and take the media's aggressive onslaughts because of those opinions, something you probably wouldn't do if you were in his position. He's probably going a little bit overboard, and he does seem a little kooky and too free-spirited in my opinion, which is no doubt a result of coming off the drugs but I give him props for standing up for himself and telling people to leave him the fuck alone, or else. Not many people that are in the mainstream have the kind of gall that man does. So why don't you get off his dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 If you like Charlie Sheen so much why don't you just marry him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^you are a mamerro porque no me lo mamas puto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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