ERIZENO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Casek ... Its cyclical .... Shit similar to this was going down during the Regan/Bush Sr. years ... and Clinton made some repairs .... only to have them undone by Bush Jr. With the polls on Bush looking the way they do its drawing to a close, and we just need to be sure the next head to go in is going to do some repairs. The fight to keep America great (not as in power but quality) is never over ... the founding fathers started the fight ... some of my favorite qoutes are from Jefferson and they ring true today as much as they did when he wrote them. We are in it for the long haul. As long as you and I keep it going we will win some and lose some. As for your disapointment in your peers ... I think a bunch of us are sick of talking about it. You know you can get all your "Fair and Balanced" news from one source ...Faux news. A great majority still cant see the farce in that. We will have to fight for them. It is what it is .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 wise words. clinton was involved in more slimey shit than alot realize. he only repaired his zipper. what with mena and the so called "arkansas mafia".... whoa! how about those 150 something killings that clinton is connected to? both in office and while he was governor. have you read the cfr's latest docs? atlanta as the new capital of the u.s.????? these people are fucking out of their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 prince william ^ ceo's of mcdonalds that isn't "hook 'em horns" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 aw shit... i knew this was coming. hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i stil think that a nutty ex marine killed JFK Well, I assure you emphatically that it was the Mafia. I don't want to argue or thread-jack but... seriously, the Mafia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man with the Answers Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 RIP, I know someone is banging 21 sheep while 21 virgins are watching right now.. haters!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 al-zarqawi dead what does this mean for iraq didnt see a thread on this delete this thread please.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUSH KILL DESTROY Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i think its hilarious they are posting zarquawi's dead face all over the news,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeedependency Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 al-zarqawi dead what does this mean for iraq practically nothing... well actually, it means another martyr. but the biggest problem is still the infiltration of the military and security forces by militia members. they could have killed whodie back in 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i think its hilarious they are posting zarquawi's dead face all over the news' date=',,[/quote'] I think its disgusting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yea for revenge ..... We should be proud we took a life for a life .... uuugggg :yuck: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 ^^^ go join al-queda if you love it so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 It's good for Islam when a person like Zarqawi and what he represents kicks the bucket, but all the negative press islam gets still hurts. These terrorist Jihadis do more to harm the image of Islam than any non muslim with a thousand anti-islamic websites because people are bombarded with images of so called "muslims" cutting peoples heads off. And as for the Gold prohibition discussion, Gold is prohibited for men but allowed for women according to Islamic law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I'm sorry dude, but I really think you look into things way too much. You're incredibly interested in finding out hidden secrets and agendas, which is fine, but I believe this is leading you to find connections and evidence where there isn't, almost out of sheer will. I'm having a veeeeeeeery hard time discerning how the hell that blue fabric implies, out of dozens of posibilities, an army jacket. I'm not even gonna ask how the hell anyone could even reach the conclusion that the lower right smudge is an army cap, unless you want to see an army cap there. And even then, I can't see it at all. You really need to up your skepticism level, at least with this kind of thing, and apply the same level of scrutiny to your "evidence" that you apply to the official stories you attempt to refute. Your portrayal of that WTC collapse paper as undismissable proof by the most reliable source is exactly what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obvious Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 About time. I was surprised when I woke up this morning, logged in, and read about Zarqawi being killed. I hope the capture and kill more of these evil murderers. Fuck them. I don't support the war, don't think we had a right to go there, don't like Bush that much, but the fact is I dislike terrorist scumbags that indiscriminately kill innocents for attention, and use religion as an excuse. The more terrorists killed or captured, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obvious Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I'm sorry dude, but I really think you look into things way too much. You're incredibly interested in finding out hidden secrets and agendas, which is fine, but I believe this is leading you to find connections and evidence where there isn't, almost out of sheer will. I'm having a veeeeeeeery hard time discerning how the hell that blue fabric implies, out of dozens of posibilities, an army jacket. I'm not even gonna ask how the hell anyone could even reach the conclusion that the lower right smudge is an army cap, unless you want to see an army cap there. And even then, I can't see it at all. You really need to up your skepticism level, at least with this kind of thing, and apply the same level of scrutiny to your "evidence" that you apply to the official stories you attempt to refute. Your portrayal of that WTC collapse paper as undismissable proof by the most reliable source is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know who you're talking to but I guess it's some super-liberal conspiracy theorist anarchist/communist. Probably thinks the US never killed Zarqawi, but flying saucers from Roswell came in and dropped off a decoy and moved Zarqawi to a safe location on Mars where he is planning the next attack. And the World Trade Center never existed it was just a holograph built by the CIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Pubes Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 i'm with mamerro. casek, on the one hand you're incredibly suspect of the news(good, you should be), but then you provide 'evidence' from...news. and that bottom right corner shit looks like somebody's pinky to me..perhaps raised taking a photograph. i guess the blood thing is weird, but..i don't understand how you can extrapolate such and intricate hunch from such lame 'evidence'. i think your general oeuvre that the US govt is up to some shady black shenanigans on the reg is totally plausible, however, stringing together tenuous points of reference from the news doesn't make it so, no matter how much you want to believe it and correlate it to real, factual events as proof they do shady shit. now if you were a real life investigator getting your hands on real, concrete documents, court documents, witnesses etcetry, and you presented it here with some seriously detailed and extensive footnotes, then i'd give you some props, but.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Huxtable. Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 i'm with mamerro. casek' date=' on the one hand you're incredibly suspect of the news(good, you should be), but then you provide 'evidence' from...news. and that bottom right corner shit looks like somebody's pinky to me..perhaps raised taking a photograph. i guess the blood thing [i']is[/i] weird, but..i don't understand how you can extrapolate such and intricate hunch from such lame 'evidence'. i think your general oeuvre that the US govt is up to some shady black shenanigans on the reg is totally plausible, however, stringing together tenuous points of reference from the news doesn't make it so, no matter how much you want to believe it and correlate it to real, factual events as proof they do shady shit. now if you were a real life investigator getting your hands on real, concrete documents, court documents, witnesses etcetry, and you presented it here with some seriously detailed and extensive footnotes, then i'd give you some props, but.. SO BASICALLY YOU BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES JUST LIKE CASEK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Pubes Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 YEA DUDE, TOTALLY THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I SAID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Eh, I try not to buy into conspiracy theories about stuff like this. Of course they needed a war, capitalism is at the point where wars are required for powers like the US and Britain to sustain themselves. Read Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism by V.I. Lenin even if you arent a marxist, it can explain how the shit works very specifically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 casek: I'm not questioning your overall point, but I'm wondering what the US government would have to gain by killing one if it's own spies? Also, to play devil's advocate on the orange jumpsuits, they could have been making a statement about Aru-Gharib. And maybe the ring is silver or bronze. Berg could have been a spy, that would definitly give the Jihadists reason to kill him, but the U.S. of A.? Not that Bush didn't try to do that with Valerie Plame, but a video beheading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 you want real incontravertable truth, you have to piece it together. they can't just hold a press conference and say, "ok, this is how it is" more or less, i'm linking what i read together. government documents, etc. tell ya what. i'm putting it together for you. in my spare time. since i worked for nearly 20 hours yesterday and the day before, i do have some spare time on my hands. i'll try and clear things up for you a little more. i'll put it in my "who are they" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperface Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Michael berg said EXACTLY what I was thinking in 2003... During the iraq TV war Now, take someone who in 1991, who maybe had their family killed by an American bomb, their support system whisked away from them, someone who, instead of being 59, as I was when Nick died, was 5-years-old or 10-years-old. And then if I were that person, might I not learn how to fly a plane into a building or strap a bag of bombs to my back? That's what is happening every time we kill an Iraqi, every time we kill anyone, we are creating a large number of people who are going to want vengeance. And, you know, when are we ever going to learn that that doesn't work? There's a shitload of people in Iraq who have USA in their crosshairs, and after saddam was thrown out they got the first chance to organize. Impeaching Bush won't help shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 shit casek get a grip YES there is a lot of shit going on that is purposefully beign concealed by certain world powers. NO that millisecond flash of a colour on the screen does not make that a us amred serviceman. NO a chair being white does not make it the same as another chair. NO a ring on osmeones finger doesnt prove he is a secret CIA operative NO the fact that soemone is wearign what appears to be a completely different cut and compeltely different material shirt to someone else doesnt mean that theyre in the same facility just because the hsirt is the same colour. i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 shit casek get a grip YES there is a lot of shit going on that is purposefully beign concealed by certain world powers. NO that millisecond flash of a colour on the screen does not make that a us amred serviceman. NO a chair being white does not make it the same as another chair. NO a ring on osmeones finger doesnt prove he is a secret CIA operative NO the fact that soemone is wearign what appears to be a completely different cut and compeltely different material shirt to someone else doesnt mean that theyre in the same facility just because the hsirt is the same colour. i all that aside, yum, tell me about the loaning of the laptop. tell me about the end of the tape. the english voice. tell me why the lack of blood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 man im not well versed on the intricacies of the human body, so lets assume that he was dead before the beheading. does that lead to believing that it was US operatives thta killed him? or can it not much mroe easily be explained that the insurgents that did kill him realised that beheading him would be a great publicity stunt an they did it anyway even though he was already dead. once again i dont know about the loaning of a laptop. so maybe he was a spy or whatever it is you think. wouldnt insurgents want to kill spy's that perhaps knew the workings of their cells and other onformaiton on them? as for the voice i havent lsitened to it and i dont particularly want to see the footage. ill give you a massive benefit of the doubt and say that there is a clear voice saying in english 'thine will be done' (id be surprised if thsi was in fact clear and just wasnt arabic that sounded slightly like that) anyway so some guy says thine will be done as a message to english speaking 'infidels' that they are in fact doing god's work by killing this guy and are mocking westerners by using a lien from the lords prayer to express this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 who knows what the real deal was? fact: berg worked at abu ghraib. fact: berg was granted a visa while there was a war going on. fact: berg made it his choice to be unprotected fact: the cia had him the day before he was "captured and killed" fact: previous to september 11th, berg loaned two suspected terrorists his laptop so they could email mussaoui fact: there was no wireless service at that time. however berg said he was on a bus when he loaned these guys his laptop to email someone. fact: berg shared the same password (email) as the suspected terrorists fact: the major artery running up through your neck spurts alot of blood when severed. i think i left a few out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 ok, great for all that. it still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. if berg was an agent, and he was working with those guys, why would they kill him? he was obviously some white american dude. i sorta doubt he infiltrated their network beyond being thier patsy if what you say is true. also, lots of people are allowed to go over there on work visas while there is a war going on..wtf? contractors? of course they all have visas, they are working in a foreign country in the middle of a war, and making a lot of fucking money doing it also, i saw some video footage last night of iraqis carrying dead bodies out of a house. some of them looked white it reminded me of some pictures i'd seen of iranian women, who had fair skin. so i wouldn't make too many assumptions about identity based on skintone in some grainy videotape. also, bluetooth was invented in 1994 Bluetooth was invented in 1994 as a cable replacement technology. It offers data transfer rates of about 400 kbps and operates in the 2.4-GHz frequency band, the same as many cordless telephones and 802.11b wireless LAN technology. so, maybe he had access to some good early technology since he was apparently affiliated with the cia Bluetooth Past, Present, And Future * 1994: Bluetooth is invented by Ericcson. * 1998: Ericcson, IBM, Intel, Nokia, and Toshiba formed a trade association known as Bluetooth SIG (Special Interest Group) to publish and promote the Bluetooth standard. The Bluetooth SIG currently has more than 2,000 member companies. * 1999: The first Bluetooth consumer product, a hands-free mobile headset, was released at Comdex. * 2003: According to the Bluetooth SIG, more than 1 million Bluetooth-enabled products began shipping each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 right bluetooth. that wasn't widely wavailable to the public and he was on a bus when he let these fools borrow his laptop. it's just all too weird. as for his work visa: he wasn't with a company. it was just one guy. going to iraq to set up comm lines. wtf? in the middle of a war? public communication lines? his dad says america abandoned him. i think that could be construed as cryptic. however, it may not be. just to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive and made a move to escape when U.S. troops reached the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, mortally wounded in an American bombing raid, a U.S. general said on Friday. "We were not aware yesterday that in fact, Zarqawi was alive when U.S. forces arrived on the site," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the spokesman for the U.S. military in Baghdad, told Fox News. Iraqi police had arrived on the scene of Wednesday's bomb attack first and put Zarqawi on a stretcher, Caldwell said. The U.S. forces arrived later and identified Zarqawi, who died shortly after. "He was conscious initially according to the U.S. forces that physically saw him. He obviously had some kind of visual recognition of who they were because he attempted to roll off the stretcher, as I am told, and get away, realizing it was U.S. military," Caldwell said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Pubes Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 he loaned 2 suspected terrorists his laptop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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