lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/ BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted terrorist in Iraq, was killed in a coalition airstrike near Baquba, jubilant U.S. and Iraqi authorities announced Thursday. Al-Zarqawi's killing is a major coup for the embattled coalition forces. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Gen. George Casey, the highest-ranking U.S. commander in Iraq, and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad announced the development at a news conference. "Today, Zarqawi has been killed," al-Maliki said. The announcement was greeted by cheers and applause. Khalilzad -- who called al-Zarqawi "the godfather of sectarian killing and terror in Iraq" -- said the death "marks a great success for Iraq and the global war on terror" and calls it a "good omen" for the new Iraqi government. "His organization has been responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians in Iraq and abroad." Casey provided details about the incident He said al-Zarqawi and a key lieutenant, spiritual advisor Sheik Abd-Al-Rahman, were at an isolated safe house at 6:15 p.m. on Wednesday. "Tips and intelligence from Iraqi senior leaders from his network led forces to al-Zarqawi and some of his associates who were conducting a meeting approximately eight kilometers north of Baquba when the airstrike was launched. Baquba is a volatile area northeast of Baghdad in Diyala province, a mixed Shiite-Sunni jurisdiction. There have been many roadside bombings and shootings throughout the province and within the week, severed heads were found in fruit boxes there. "Iraqi police were first on the scene after the air strike, and elements of Multi-National Division North, arrived shortly thereafter. We have been able to identify al-Zarqawi by fingerprint verification, facial recognition and known scars." Al-Maliki indicated that the strike on al-Zarqawi was the "result of cooperation" with the citizenry, saying that authorities many times have asked the citizenry to provide information. "This is a message to all those who take violence as a path." Khalilzad said the demise of al-Zarqawi won't end the violence in Iraq, but it is "an important step in the right direction." He said "there will be difficult days ahead" but said that "today is a good day." CNN's Jamie McIntyre contributed to this report. -i don't think this changes much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 well, there's $25 million I won't be getting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUSH KILL DESTROY Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 the pussy is gone, its a great day, one less filthy dirtbag terrorist in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R@ndomH3ro Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I know he is burning in hell right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i got a massive grin on my face seeing this. i think it might actually have an impact. this guy was a ringleader for a lot of the insanity we saw develop..like those beheadings? would that have become a thing to do if he hadn't popped it off? anyway fuckim..i'm glad. did he happen to get killed on 6/6/6 baghdad time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 no, this morning. almost 1/2 day ahead. mid morning of the 8th there. also: the beheadings, while not all, but some were justified. we'd do the same if we discovered an intel worker like nick berg. don't believe me? watch the video again. he was dead when his head was cut off. not enough blood. talk to any pathologist. hell, i've worked in animal pathology labs. lots of blood during beheadings. he was straight intel. as was the other guy. perl..daniel perl, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 some were justified. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 You gotta be fucking kidding me. not in a moralistic way mammero. no way. but look at it this way, we would kill a spy if he/she were caught here. maybe not as 'savagely', but we would kill a spy. we probably do several hundred times a year without americans even knowing. look at the prisons that the cia is shipping 'terrorists' off to so that they can torture them and have no geneva convention rules apply (some of which are gone now. bush has given permission to torture now. geneva convention rules thrown out the door) nick berg was a spy. it's not coincidence that he just happened to run into two guys connected with the recently convicted mussaoui. and he happened to let them use his laptop to email someone (while on a bus???no wireless in 2001. how is this possible?) he was also trained and tagged intel. do some research. not the conspiracy shit sites. google for news articles. i still contend that 'we' would do the same. however shitty you think i am for saying that, you still have to realize that it's true. i don't personally agree with torture, beheadings, etc. but i am able to understand what happens in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i don't buy that danial perl was 'straight intel' nope, i've read too many interviews with is wife to buy into that. i also don't believe there is a secret identity or conspiracy lurking underneath the cover of every 'news story' and no, i don't see their actions as justified. beheading nick berg like that, dead, not dead, spy, not a spy, i don't care. i saw the video. sick shit, and not justified in my opinion. i'm not of the 'eye for an eye' mind i don't believe that when someone gets shat upon it bestows on him the right to go shit on anyone he wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 me either. and there is a global conspiracy to cover alot of shit up. watch the video again. when berg is being killed audio "thy will be done" slowed down there is an obvious white guy in a military hat poking through in 3200 range. (that is frame) here: nick berg in a chair about to be killed guy at abu ghraib lily white hands on arabs???? abu ghraib photo. chair..... also, guy cutting bergs head off....he's wearing a gold ring. strictly prohibited by muslim law. are these strict muslims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 no, not watching that video again you can sit around and watch that shit and study it i don't feel like vomiting today also, go ahead and go nuts on the conspiracy theories. i stil think the united states has been to the moon and that a nutty ex marine killed JFK these are not topics that i care to spend time mulling over, i'd rather be painting or even talkin fun shit also my coworker, a muslim from egypt, wears several wedding bands, one of them is gold she has rather fair looking skin beautiful woman, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 i hope the whole rest of the country doesn't feel that way. i believe that the u.s. has been to the moon, too. no idea about jfk. it's fishy. another example of the cia being haters, though. no one cares to do any research. these people don't even bother to hide it anymore. it's out in the news articles, autobiographies, c-span. fuck. i can't understand why no one even gives a fuck anymore. it's like they've all just decided to lay down and let these crazies stomp their boots down on our noses. "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face -- forever." -George Orwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 no, not watching that video again you can sit around and watch that shit and study it i don't feel like vomiting today also, go ahead and go nuts on the conspiracy theories. i stil think the united states has been to the moon and that a nutty ex marine killed JFK these are not topics that i care to spend time mulling over, i'd rather be painting or even talkin fun shit also my coworker, a muslim from egypt, wears several wedding bands, one of them is gold she has rather fair looking skin beautiful woman, really fine. you explain an arab saying "thy will be done" to me, ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 huh?????? i'm just letting you know that this muslim i work with wears gold. christ. don't get shitty with me becasuse i won't swallow your conspiracy theories whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 huh?????? i'm just letting you know that this muslim i work with wears gold. christ. don't get shitty with me becasuse i won't swallow your conspiracy theories whole eh, i'm not getting shitty. how are they theories? i can prove everything i say. no arguements. this can be as peaceful a discussion as we allow it to be, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Damn, I thought I saw a tiny gold ring on that very slow-moving hand in that super high quality video of Berg's beheading. The video is so good, and can display skin tones so accurately, I even calibrated my monitor to it. And yeah, that chair is also WHITE!! Crazy!! Beheading is not justified by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 Damn, I thought I saw a tiny gold ring on that very slow-moving hand in that super high quality video of Berg's beheading. The video is so good, and can display skin tones so accurately, I even calibrated my monitor to it. And yeah, that chair is also WHITE!! Crazy!! Beheading is not justified by any means. you missed it mammero. i don't think beheading or killing is good in any way. the uninform he;s wearing is the same as abu-ghraib uniforms. the chairs are standard issue u.s. govt chairs. no doubt about it. if you look at that film frame by frame you will see that there is a gold ring. find a higher quality version of the video. they are floating around. i used to have it. also note that there is a voice on the last part that says "thy will be done" not an arabs voice at all. plain english. don't let shit get in the way of your intellect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 the chairs are standard issue u.s. govt chairs. no doubt about it. That is some $2.99 molded plastic chair .... I'm fairly sure those are as readily available in most of the wolrd as they are here in the states. I see them in front of every home store, drug store, and food stores I walk into. I sure as hell wouldnt use that as proof of anything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not debating your end point, just your use of a plastic chair as anything more than a plastic chair. See that spec in the upper corner of the photo .... thats a UFO. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 fuckin a. look at his uniform. orange. abu ghraib. prison chairs are same as bergs. someone saying "thy will be done" a flash of a army hat with a whitemans face in some frames at the end. gold ring on guys hand. beheaders vest changes at one point. no limp on supposed wooden legged beheader. jesus.fucking. christ. nobody here really thinks at all. conspiracy theories? who the fuck are you? do you know how to read? do you know how to google search? google news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 In Islam, only men are prohibited from wearing gold, women can wear as much gold as they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 army jacket ^ ^ white soldier with a standard issue army cap. (for the stupid, lower right corner for a couple of frames) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 bergs father was interviewed today. sounds like a wise man http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 don't be mad because we won't all get on board. once you start questioning peopole's intellects because they don't agree with you (especially people who we all know have a good head on their shoulders) you start to look the you're angry really. who is the nut? don't be upset because i don't feel the need to investigate every single news story that comes down the pipeline hahaha those chairs? are you kidding? those chairs are probably made in china and exported to a gazillion countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Follow the lineage of the Muslim Brotherhood from its roots in admiration of Hitler to its past and present ties to the CIA. I am not questioning your point ... I just found the plastic chair thing funny. And as for why people dont care ... I have two thoughts for you. --Ignorance is bliss. -- You dont have kids and a mortage. Most in that boat want to worry about the day to day stuff and trust their leaders to take care of the rest for them. (too bad we cant) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 don't be mad because we won't all get on board. once you start questioning peopole's intellects because they don't agree with you (especially people who we all know have a good head on their shoulders) you start to look the you're angry really. who is the nut? don't be upset because i don't feel the need to investigate every single news story that comes down the pipeline hahaha those chairs? are you kidding? those chairs are probably made in china and exported to a gazillion countries. i question people intelligence for obvious reasons. we just had a muslim tell us that only women can wear gold. men aren't allowed. i just posted a video witha white guys ear and army hat poking into the frame. i just showed you that abu ghraibs uniforms are the same as berg's captors put him in. berg did some work there, btw. i showed you some generic chairs. sure, they are generic. but is it coincidence that the terrorists ahve the same chairs? maybe. maybe not. what with all the other evidence, i should be maybe not. berg just happened to let mussaoui's co-conspirators borrow his computer on a bus at oklahoma state u.? to email? there was no fucking wrieless back then. how much more does it take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 Follow the lineage of the Muslim Brotherhood from its roots in admiration of Hitler to its past and present ties to the CIA. I am not questioning your point ... I just found the plastic chair thing funny. And as for why people dont care ... I have two thoughts for you. --Ignorance is bliss. -- You dont have kids and a mortage. Most in that boat want to worry about the day to day stuff and trust their leaders to take care of the rest for them. (too bad we cant) the chair thing is funny. i agree fully. but when presented with the other evidence, it's really really not very funny at all. i get so damn disappointed with people sometimes. it's not anger at all. it's just disappointment. people like symbols, mammero, and rumpuncher. all people i really do think of highly. all very intelligent people. there are more. people i know in life that just deny everything. even if it comes from a .gov or .mil website. or pnac's site. they want to say "hogwash!" when it comes straight from the horse's mouth. it saddens me. honestly. people who are smart and continue to deny. it's cool. people will wake up at some point. p.s.: something you might eb interested in is helmut schmidt's autobiogrpahy. he admits to alot of crazy shit. elitist's are very odd. very pagan. and very frightening. we're bugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 so what exactly is all this adding up to? berg was in with moussaoi so they killed him? if that's true, who gives a fuck? honestly, mayeb you haven't been paying very close attention to my posts lately (and why would you? i don't expect people to pick up on subtleties) but i do not give a fuck about anything at all anymore i cared too much for too long and now it would be fine with me if the world implodes and wtf is the muslim gold refernce thing telling us about people's intelligence? you are losing me totally here man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 haha. i see. berg was cia or fbi. most likely cia. him loaning his computer to the two guys connected with moussaoi was no accident. berg was killed because he was a spy. maybe found out, maybe just expendable. who knows? probably both. fact is: he was killed by white people and "arabs" who spoke broken arabic. who wore gold rings. as i said earlier, devout muslims do not do this. as the muslim above pointed out, only women are allowed to wear gold. how do i know they are devout? they are screaming about it on the tape. that's how they recruit other muslims. the next point: berg was dead when his head was cut off. no blood splatter from that artery in the neck. (it's a big one.) what's my point? this shit is set the fuck up. it's real and yet it isn't real. there is an elite group in this world. they play things off on us all of the time. the new wtc research paper by dr. jones is proof positive. there's alot more. i don't feel like getting in to it at the moment. i'm very very tired and have many more hours of work to complete. this is a great country and we're being fucked out of it by some dickheads who think that lowering the dollars value, selling out our country to pan-american unions, terrorizing it's own fucking citizens, killing it's own people, and crushing good people in its wake is a great fucking idea. gah. i used to hate this place so much when i thought it was "us". it's not "us", though. it's them. they want us to feel like there is no hope. just fucking give in. give in and let them take over. no more rights. no more liberties. no more america. fuck that! i like this place. people died for us to ahve this place. and we're gonna let it all slip away. flush it down the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 i'm sorry if i have been a nihilist. since those people are in control of so much (like orchestrating war, and all the propoganda that comes with one, plus (hearts and minds of the christian voting bloc, for example) it seems so futile. i feel like shit won't change on a major level unless someone tries to overthrow our government i mean, lobbyists???? the whole shit is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 i understand. i know how fucked and hokey it all sounds. i don't want to believe that this world is being owned by bankers, elitist scum oil barons, etc. the truth is, it is. we're all slaves unless we make sure we aren't slaves. overthrowing doesn't ahve to be violent. remember that picture i posted? it just has to happen through education. when they try and take our guns and put our families in these prison camps that kellog, browne, and root are building, then we get violent. until then, it's a race to wake people up. for christ's sakes, these people really are admitting to crazy shit in their autobiographies. ever read that PNAC document? from way back in '99? it says they need a war. how about project megiddo? whoa. there's some shit. or operation endgame. i'm not a dumb person. i don't go outside and look for aliens or think i see ghosts. i'm not some acid fried hippy dumbshit who blabbers on and on about how my hands can feel plant powers. don't get so down, symbols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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