SUR X3 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I found it funny that people protest this, when Dan Brown has obviously stated it's not anti-religion. Stated that it's a work of Fiction. All he said was that Opus Dei was real, Priory of Scion was real, and that there are some people that really think this is true. On the other hand, noone protested Hitchhikers Guide, and that book LOUDLY poked fun at religion, said there was a race of people who actually believe they were sneezed into existance, and that they were waiting for the coming of the "Great White Hankerchief." And then in the MOVIE, potrayed them as Roman Catholics, and it want over every single one of you overzealous religious fuckwads tiny heads.... Douglas Adams was a DEVOUT athiest, wrote much better than Dan Brown, and made SERIOUS fun of religion in every book he wrote... "He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife. " " In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. Most people believe the universe was created by some sort of God, although the Jetrivartid people of Viltvodle IV believe the universe was sneezed into existance by a being known as The Great Green Arklesiezure. The Jetrivartids, who are small blue creatures with over 50 arms each who are unique in being the only civilization ever who invented aeresol deoderant before the wheel, live in costant fear of a time the call. "The Coming of the Great White Hankerchief." And so on, he also put this whole religion thing in view for me. Early man was looking out of his cave or whatnot, and here is a being who makes things. He makes tools for himself, he makes a dwelling for himself, he makes everything he uses. So he looks out of his cave, and he says to himsef, "Gee this place is great, it's got food, it's got water, it's got women to have sex with. It's just great. Since early man was a person who makes things, he begins to think to himself, "Well who made all this then?". He's a man, and he's strong, so whoever made this must be a man too. So when something goes good this early man is thinking, "I must be doing something right here, whoever made this is giving me all these nice things" or if something bad happens he's thinking, "Well I must of been doing something wrong for him to be so mad at me." And so religion... But man believing the world is made for him, is along the lines of a puddle thinking a whole in the ground is made for him... So there's a puddle of water in a hole in the ground. In one of it's more philosphical moments the puddle comments on how remarkable that the hole just happens to suit it so perfectly. Such a snug fit and all around perfect environment for this puddle that it figures that the hole must have been made just for it. When the sun comes out and the water starts to evaporate the puddle becomes worried but maintains it's faith that it was meant to exist so must exist and that the creator of the puddle will take care of it and protect it from the sun. It maintains this thought right up to the point where the last drop of water puffs into vapor. I'm not trying to get too deep into this, have faith all you want. What I have faith in is that when I die, someone should play "I Am Immortal", the theme song for Highlander. That's what gets me through life, you need god, I need Highlander. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhalant Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 my opinon is that i dig that shit fucken trippy ass shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 HEY! REALLY? ABOUT HHGTTG? You THINK you know how much you can be into it but, I have signed firsts of all of them (the HH series) plus so many peripherals your head ould spin.. so, I had plans to see it with my best friend and then he up nd died, so, I was distracted... after that I had other things to do and... now I've been wondering. I just read a Salmon of Doubt about 2 weeks ago, gave it to another friend already... seriously, I MUST KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy.wonka Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 even if jesus did have his children walking the earth... that would be cool as fuck cant say its a fact, cant say its not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUMPKIN ESCOBAR Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I always thought hitchhiker's galaxy was some sci fi nerd shit. I'm definately renting that this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 um, it is some sci fi nerd shit, there's jokes that aren't even jokes in it though so... kind of like monty python plus science... most Americans don't understand that Ford Prefect is a make of car... like a character named Lincoln Continental... but not as grandiose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUR X3 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Perfectly Inconspicuous... I'm a pretty big fan. I have all the books. I have multiple copies of all of them. My favorite is the Complete and Unabridged hardcover edition. Made to look like a bible. His jokes are obscure but you can get them if you know enough general information. I suggest reading the books first though. All of them. Including Dirk Gently and his writings from Salmon of a Doubt. Then watch the movie. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYLEISKING Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 never read the book,but looking forward to be entertaint with the movie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyD Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 I'm renting it right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 they fucked up on a lot of shit. but i dont blame them.. putting the whole book on the movie woulda made it 200 hours longer than it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeBee Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Saw it last night, it was cool...I'll prolly go check out the book It would be pretty cool if Jesus did have relatives walkin around..I'd wanna fight em, just for the bragging rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 youll earn a nice place in hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeBee Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Already goin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TronoxDeXHuesos Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 i haven't read it i have however, been pretty much everywhere in the book. the mona lisa wasn't in the grand gallery when i saw her though Look at me! Im a man of world who can't read! Douchebag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 As much shit as I've talked in this thread I haven't read the book either believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 overhyped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loafybrown Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 the anti-christ is coming first to decieve the world. that's basically why there are all these religious fanatics playing church so much nowadays. the world's preparing to whore after. stick to reality, the words of God. not the words of man like Da Vinci Code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I'D THOUROUGHTLY LIKE TO TAKE A POOP ON THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUR X3 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Sigh... When will people realize the bible is not the word of God. The bible IS the world of man. Period... End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Look at me! Im a man of world who can't read! Douchebag. look at you! you're a moron who can't use grammar properly in his pathetic attempt to diss sorry i was too busy readin science papers to get around to dan brown Catheter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEE38 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 the anti-christ is coming first to decieve the world. that's basically why there are all these religious fanatics playing church so much nowadays. the world's preparing to whore after. stick to reality, the words of God. not the words of man like Da Vinci Code. Haha, yeah we were thinking the same thing! People are gunna start believing this shit....... and one day the anti-christ is gunna pop up and act like shes "SOPHIE: THE LAST OF GODS BLOOD LINES ON EARTH"... all these weirdos are gunna believe her and get the mark of the beast and etc and etc. pffffffft & you know how it goes, page 400 in your bible and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R@ndomH3ro Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Listen to Slayer, everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Listen to Slayer' date=' everyday.[/quote'] amen so what the fuck is the big deal about this movie? why is everyone butt hurt about it? someone wanna tell me the short version of why the hell its so contreversial for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 If you have developed a healthy skepticism to not beleive institutionalized christianity and it's propagandized socio-political underpinnings, you have a healthy skepticism of any "antichrist" claiming to be the 2nd coming. You are also skeptical of G W Bush's claims of being chosen by God and performing the will of God. If anyone fits the antichrist stereotype it's our very own president that "faithful" and "true" christians are so proud of. But with a 32% approval rating I think it's safe to say that all but the most fundamental believers in the right wing party line have had their faith shaken by this man. True gnostics are far from being gullible trend followers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckit Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 basically, it states that Jesus was not a god because he got married to miss mary magdalene(sp?) and that the bible was 'compiled' in like 200-300 ad by a roman king. and that the catholic church has been covering it up ever since. and also that there were many other gospels etc. fun fact-almost every one of the 'other' gospels was written way after jesus lived and were not first hand accounts. gospel of thomas /judas etc, were all about 200 years after jesus and were not even written by the people they are named after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 references. I already know your sweeping "fun fact" is not true. That's how life was before gutenberg and the glut of incunabula. We had medival monks toiling to transcribe by hand ancient texts. You might be surprised at what is locked away in the Vatican... And what faithful gnostics sometimes died to preserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckit Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 really? ive read a couple books on the subject but they/i could always be wrong. any further info? links whatever? looks like im going to have to research it a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilla54 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 OVER RATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Caesaropapism Emperor Constantine, however, declined baptism until he was on his death bed. He also viewed himself as the overseer/bishop (the word "bishop" comes from the Greek episkopos "overseer") of external relations of the Christian Church. He decreed that the bishops gather at the First Ecumenical Council. The Council of Nicaea was historically significant because it was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom.[2] "It was the first occasion for the development of technical Christology".[3] Further, "Constantine in convoking and presiding over the council signaled a measure of imperial control over the church." The long-term effects of the Council of Nicaea were significant. For the first time, representatives of all of the bishops of the Church convened to agree on a doctrinal statement. Also for the first time, the Emperor played a role, by calling together the bishops under his authority, and using the power of the state to give the Council's orders effect. This was the start of the Constantinian shift, an entangling of church and state that still gives rise to debate today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I saw the movie last night. I thought it was pretty cool. I first heard of the knights templar when i was in jr. high and have been hooked on this kind of thing ever since. I have always believed that jesus was more of a prophet with a great following than an actual son of god. Religion is so weird, I wouldnt doubt some sect of christianity being the secret holder to all mysteries regarding the faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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