MARC ECKO WILL SEE THIS

[HATERPLAYER]

I AM ONE OF THE WRITERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN HIS HOAX, ACTUALLY I AM THE GUY WHO TAGGED "STILL FREE" ON THE ENGINE OF THE PLANE, AND JUMPED THE FENCES, AND RAN MY ASS OFF, OVER, AND OVER AGAIN FOR 2 NIGHTS STRAIGHT, FROM 6 IN THE EVENING TILL 6 IN THE MORNING...WHEN THE PRODUCERS FIRST APPROACHED MYSELF, AND MY 2 PARTNERS WHOM ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE PROJECT, THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IT WAS A PROMOTIONAL STUNT FOR THE VIDEO GAME...COOL, I THOUGHT, PAY US $2000 EACH TO JUST DO OUR THING! -WORDEMUP, SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!

-THEN WHEN WE GET OUT THERE AND SEE THIS HUGE PRODUCTION SETUP, AND A 747 PAINTED TO REPLICATE AIR FORCE ONE "THAT MARC ECHO LATER REVEILED TO ME THAT HE SPENT OVER HALF A MILLION ON!" -THAT $2000 DOLLARS STARTED TO FEEL LIKE CHUMP CHANGE! -EVEN STILL, I THOUGHT IT WAS A COOL CONCEPT, AND PROJECT. IN THE FIRST NIGHT OF SHOOTING, MARC ECHO CAME INTO THE TRAILER AND SAT DOWN WITH MYSELF, AND A FEW OTHER "ACTORS" WHO WERE PLAYING THE ROLE OF ARMY PERSONEL, AND STARTED CHOPPING IT UP WITH US, HE EXPLAINED WHY HE WAS DOING THIS "HOAX" -AND THAT HE IS A HUGE FAN OF "THE CULTURE" AND SO ON...ALTHOUGH I ALREADY THOUGHT OF HIM AS A SUCKER, A IMPOSTER, AND HIS CLOTHING LINE BITES "REAL" GRAFFITI BASED LINES LIKE "THE SEVENTH LETTER" AFTER CHOPPING IT UP WITH HIM, HE HAD WON ME OVER...AND I ACTUALLY STARTED TO LIKE HIM...

-THEN THAT FUCKING INTERVIEW CAME OUT, AND HIS TRUE INTENTIONS WERE REVEALED...THIS FUCKING GUY WAS CLAIMING THAT HE DID IT! -I GUESS IN A WAY HE HAD, AFTERALL HE FINANCED THE WHOLE THING "WICH BY THE WAY HE HINTED AT BEING SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF $1,000,000!!!" -SO I GUESS IN THAT ASPECT HE DID...BUT MY POINT IS THIS, WHY??? -TO PROMOTE HIS GAME? -IF YOU LISTEN TO THAT INTERVIEW, HE IS NOT TRYING TO PROMOTE HIS FUCKING GAME, THIS CLOWN PAID "REAL WRITERS", AND A HUGE PRODUCTION COMPANY TO TRY TO PURCHASE HIMSELF STREET CRED AND CLOUT! -LISTEN TO HIM, HE IS TALKING LIKE HE CARRYING THIS MOVEMENT ON HIS SHOULDERS! -I DID THIS, I DID THAT...GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! -YOU NEVER DID SHIT! -EVERYONE KNOWS IT, AND HE KNOWS IT! -THAT IS WHY HE PAID REAL MOTHERFUCKERS TO DO JUST THAT...MAKE HIM LOOK REAL. WELL YOU ARE NOT CHUMP, WE SEE THROUGH YOURE BULLSHIT! -AND YOU CANT BUY OUR BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS...NO MATTER HOW RICH YOU ARE.:shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead:

[Crack Killz]

lets put it this way....

 

why would someone wanna bomb a fake city?

 

Get off the xbox and do the real thing...

 

 

FUCK YOU MARC ECKO

[CACashRefund]

for the money hes making i would have done the exact same shit

[JambaJuice]

for the money hes making i would have done the exact same shit

 

but where do you draw the line?

[CACashRefund]

money money money

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

monayyyyyyyyyyyyy

[krs702]

yeah, that shit was queer. my apologizes for supporting marc, for 1 dubious post.

[krs702]

but, who knows, u could be wrong ,2

[waseface]

hah

http://www.clipdump.com/Link-20647_Graffiti+artist+Marc+Ecko+tags+the+president's+air+p....html

i dont know what to think.

[Mayor Bill Campbell]

WELL YOU ARE NOT CHUMP' date=' WE SEE THROUGH YOURE BULLSHIT![/quote']

 

thats word.

[fuckin...bub]

WANKSTER

[Gunm]

 

Fuck marc ecko he is a money hungry asshole who is going to destroy the mystique of our culture by opening it up to the masses via products that make you think your down when your wear them...

 

 

 

blah blah blah blah

 

 

 

boring

 

 

 

Oh, so you are a bright and unique little snowflake right?

 

I mean, you're nothing like the MASSES who buy CORPORATE consumer goods which are provided by THE MAN who EXPLOITS our very unique CULTURE.

 

Please, give it a rest. The guy's making money and probably sniffing coke off of some hot asian escorts perfect c-cup titties every night while you bitch about exploitation on a messagebaord.

 

Whatever.....his claims to being a bomber are laughable but I give the guy credit for building a business empire where he gets to fuck around and pull elaborate hoaxes. Fuck, i wish i could do that.

["inkie"]

its used to be ok when he was promoting graff, but now he has crossed the line, fuck his media whore toy ass. that game jet set radio is the shit!!!!!

[Razzle2006]

blah blah blah blah

 

boring

 

Oh, so you are a bright and unique little snowflake right?

 

I mean, you're nothing like the MASSES who buy CORPORATE consumer goods which are provided by THE MAN who EXPLOITS our very unique CULTURE.

 

Please, give it a rest. The guy's making money and probably sniffing coke off of some hot asian escorts perfect c-cup titties every night while you bitch about exploitation on a messagebaord.

 

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

 

What the fuck are you on mate?

[Xx LiL mIsS SHADY xX]

id hit that shit if i were rich as fuk like him...

[Gunm]

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

 

What the fuck are you on mate?

 

 

Oh, sorry, i forgot people like you were "keeping it real"

[Razzle2006]

Oh' date=' sorry, i forgot people like you were "keeping it real"[/quote']

 

I'd rather keep it real than keep it 'proper faggot' :p

[Gunm]

^^^

 

Well, no one would know better than you about keeping it "proper faggot". My sources tell me you're an expert on the subject.

[ProjectGen18]

Word. I'm not hating on the game but I can understand why most writers think it's wack. Let me point out something, despite that I'm gonna get name-called like most writers do :-X.

 

To be honest I think it's necessary to make this culture more diverse. What other talent out there will come up if it wasn't for that game? I bet Dondi would've gotten mainstream, going on the spotlight, and he was being mainstream right before he died, e.g. doing legals on buses, and art shows. And if he would've lived, the history of graff might've been different (maybe going as far into being one of the "guest stars" in the game instead of Cope2). One of the reasons why I think most writers think its wack is that it'll bring more toys than before. But so what? There's been toys everywhere even before the game. The strong will last until the end, and the weak shall not. The dedicated will learn their history and their customs of graff. What I mean when I say it'll make graff more diverse, I mean that since there will be more toys than before, that talent among the very few in those unheard areas might start a brand new kind of style specific in that area. Look at the different styles of Rap? If the Bronx sound never came out mainstream, Cali's Gangstah Rap wouldn't be born and your favorite 2pac songs wouldn't be recorded. Then came all these other styles like Dirty South and also that Cleveland Style perfectd by Bone Thugs. Now in England, there's this new sound in development called Gryme. I still don't understand it, but I have heard in the the English Hip Hop radio that it is controversial among English emcees, whether it is a real solid style or just a gimmick. That means we are moving somewhere in Rap.

 

The big sides in the world of graffiti is NY, Cali, and the many parts of Europe. You can still see strong influence of the NY style in Paris both in handstyle and pieces, but you can see that they are having their own taste, like angular shapes. I don't think the game will wack out the culture; in fact there hasn't been this much exposure of graffiti since the 80's in the US. Even as far that it is being banned in some countries e.g. Australia. Jet Grind Radio is fundamentally based around graffiti and bombing a futuristic city (like Getting Up), with a haitian DJ who sounds like he's on crack, writers who run around only in skates, bombing the ugliest styles (I must say also that you can bomb on a cop in this game and nothing serious happened that the media attacked the graffiti culture, from minimal to nothing), and it didn't wack out anything of the culture. I'm not hating on the game since it does have good points for being most accurate than any game made about graffiti so far, but it's been restricted only to NY and not the rest of the major style movements. Anyway, "graffiti" already has a bad connotation among the public way before it became popular, so why are you fighting the impossible? The culture itself will always be strong, not like it will break down in a dependant fashion on some dude trying to catch a buck. It is the next step in graff making it richer in expression, despite that some of the things he has done is wacked out like that Hoax, and it's relation in making Graffiti Legal somewhat where the line is blurred.

 

The hoax is pretty dissappointing though. "Still Free" I think its a message for him trying to pass a Graffiti Expression law, where he's trying to make graffiti legal to some extent e.g selling spray cans/markers to a younger age. I dont' know if the hoax is his strategy to promote his game, OR, to promote that Free Graffiti Act in making it public, or just BOTH. But I think overall that strategy of changing the law will not work out, since one cannot change something where the connotation is so strong among Right-Wing politicians. This is probably his biggest mistake. But ultimately, all of these things will not fuck up the culture, but at least open new doors to kids who would get serious into it. And lastly, the criticism of this game where most writers call it "toy" offers new hope to the real toy, where he might get a better conception of what graffiti is really about in this culture.

 

w/e I'm just someone who's looking at it from an alternative I guess.

 

I agree with Marshall Tucker saying that graffiti exploited like this was bound to happen. Its been far too long that graffiti is underground. It just needs to move on IMO.

[krs702]

Our views will change Once we know Who Did That ?

[deadbent4]

I hope mark ecko get's shot

[GEEB]

i hope he falls and hurts him self really really bad, like scrap his elbows and stuff and theres no band aid to patch him up, and his shirt gets all dirty...im sure thatll ruin his day

[510FLIX]

ecko is just your average toy, exept hes also rich.

[rushinsky874]

dont hate cause hes more up than ya. hes a mothafuckin hustla.

[Harvey Wallbanger]

Did you know that Ecko bought out Zoo York skateboards?

[whoiseuth]

yes, yes i did.

[Fr8fiend]

I don't know much about Ecko's history, but from what I've seen the past couple years I think it's a step in the good direction. Many cities have made graff a felony, which is absolutely ridiculous. Having to do time in prison for writing ones name on something which will be buffed or painted out within minutes is just fanatical criminalization of a mostly harmless act. Putting property before people has been conditioned into the masses as an accepted norm now. During protests they refer to breaking a window as violence, it is not, it is vandalism. Violence is when another living being is harmed or made to suffer pain, which should definitely be punished appropriately. Not when an inanimate object is damaged. To promote this type of mental conditioning, our local and federal government provides millions of dollars to various agencies for support, enforcement and legal modifications. The only hope of we the people is for those individuals with a strong financial backing, such as Ecko, who may have some bit of sympathy or empathy with us and our cause, to put their money to work through legal challenges in order to begin breaking down this powerful governmental wall of oppression and unreasonably harsh punishment. If not, it will get to the point where one will be doing years in prison for catching a tag. Don't laugh, that's the direction in which all this is going. Do not think that the government doesn't realize that graffiti is the last true form of uncensored expression and free speech in this country that can absolutely be used to open and change minds. By launching two court challenges in the last two years against New York City, first for the right to hold a graff-oriented block party and now to oppose the criminalization of people under 21 years of age for carrying paint or markers, Ecko is bringing this highly unreasonably harsh criminalization of graff into the conciouness of all citizens and has begun the slow process of chiseling away at these unjust laws. Hopefully at some point in the future the penalties will return to the point at which they were 30 years ago when the sentence fit the crime. If one is caught writng then one does community service time buffing, with maybe a small fine. That is appropriate for this type of action. We need to see many more of Ecko's status, within the "hip hop" community and elsewhere, stepping up and putting their financial backing out there for use in sentencing reform and protecting the legal rights of the most vulnerable citizens, especially the young and the poor, those most unable to defend themselves from this oppressive legal system. I appreciate what Ecko has been doing in this regard.