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Zector..im kinda bored of seeing those sketches in every thread i look in..you even made your own thread..go fucking SIMPLE

 

Okay...this is a kind of technique about the importance of simples...whats down there most of the good writers in the toys forum agreed with me..so here it goes..

 

SIMPLES ARE IMPORTANT

 

and i know...cuz from BS ... i got pushed and pushed and pushed to do simples with no color..nothing..just letters...and once id got letters down...i startd using colour etc...and then i played with addons...and that the stage im at now..and thats what i think the newbies here should do ... becauase its the way too go...i never fort it was..but it seriously is..

 

this is my shit from when i wudnt listen to anybody about simples..

 

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when i got told to do simpler stuff..i went to thisl..which isnt simpler

 

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i had karaks in the middle and everything..

 

i didnt know i was doing wrong..untill ppl drilled it into my head i needed simples..so i startd fresh with simples..

 

and came to doing this

 

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just take a look at how much better they look.. ^^ .. nice and crisp...with kinda funky leters...no karaks in the middle..no crazy addons..no crazy colorus...no nothing...just 2 culas..one karak...and letters..

 

and after i had those basics down..i startd to add bigger add ons..curv the bars...and came with this shit...

 

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SIMPLES AND HARD CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIZISM IS THE WAY FORWARD.. !!!!!

 

I KNOW..

 

LISTEN TO ME OR DONT...I REALLY COUDLNT CARE LESS...

 

But at the end of the day..from my experience...simples are the way to go..and you also get waaaaaaaaaaay more credit for them...

 

dont get me wrong and dont think that im acting the BIG I AM...I KNOW EVERYTHING..WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE etc.

 

but like i say..from my expericences .. i know what is true..

 

SIMPLES

 

And in 20 years time...writers still do simples..all the time...you should be able to rock a good clean simple .. or you wont be able to rock anything

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i took the words from dope writers thank you very much...and you can obviously see an improvement from the very top to the bottom..or are you just plain dumb ??

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i took the words from dope writers thank you very much...and you can obviously see an improvement from the very top to the bottom..or are you just plain dumb ??

 

well, your letter structure is near exact from the top to bottom

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ever tried getting the broad side of the prisma, then facing it toward the paper while holding it and blowing super hard? does some cool effects

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ever tried getting the broad side of the prisma, then facing it toward the paper while holding it and blowing super hard? does some cool effects

 

wut u mean?:o ;) :o

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Yeah... I don't get this either... what are you doing? Blowing the paper around?

 

In unrelated prisma-blowing shits, I tried putting letters on onion paper and gluing them in my book. It sounds really cool because the paper is really transparent and will show through anything it's placed over so you should get some interesting effects with photos and things like that under it... failed miserably. The ink just doesn't adhere to the paper and the glue couldn't hold it down right. It got all wrinkly and shit.

 

Anyone have any suggestions for what to use similar to that for the same effect?

 

I'm wondering about those transparent plastic sheets they sell in Office Supply stores with paint markers but what the fuck would you attach them with?

 

Anyway, suggestions are appreciated.

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Yeah... I don't get this either... what are you doing? Blowing the paper around?

 

In unrelated prisma-blowing shits, I tried putting letters on onion paper and gluing them in my book. It sounds really cool because the paper is really transparent and will show through anything it's placed over so you should get some interesting effects with photos and things like that under it... failed miserably. The ink just doesn't adhere to the paper and the glue couldn't hold it down right. It got all wrinkly and shit.

 

Anyone have any suggestions for what to use similar to that for the same effect?

 

I'm wondering about those transparent plastic sheets they sell in Office Supply stores with paint markers but what the fuck would you attach them with?

 

Anyway, suggestions are appreciated.

 

the only way to do this with any amount of success is to tape the traceing paper to the of the back of the page, fold and score top and bottom and open end, tape the bottom to the back of the page also, open side also, it's not permanently fixed to the front , but u can make it semi perm. in back with a lil duct tape and what not, now mind u using glue or tape in time will cause a chemical breakdown of the paper, plus everyone fingerphuckin the page does help either.....

 

one!

roler da sensei

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yeah, if you hold the marker about an inch over the paper horizontally and blow hard on the tip, some ink will come out onto the paper like an airbrush effect

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This is not a diss to anyone.

And in essence, I think this thread has potential.

 

but for real, I think a lot of beginners are spending waaaaaay

to much time flicking their wack sketches and running to the internet for

advice on how to do fancy tricks and not nearly enough time drawing and practicing.

 

turn off your computer and work on your skills.

there is no point in posting shit unless you've been practicing for at least a year or two.

 

the best way to get better is experience.

No amount of tricks or or fancy markers will make you better.

get a box of crayola thins or a fuckin bic pen or a number 2 pencil

and fill up books.

once you have 5 books filled.

then post your shit on the internet.

 

There is no substitute for hard work

say word

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here is a a quick simple tip thats also a basic...

 

when coloring with markers, make sure you try to work as quickly and neatly as possible. color in even strokes going in the same direction. place strokes next to each other, one just going over the other. doing this with the same colored marker, your strokes will be visible while the ink is still wet, but as it dries, the ink starts to spread and the strokes blend into each other making the color smooth.

 

and once you begin coloring, pay attention and dont stop. if you stop and try to start again, you will see a line where you started from because the ink already dried. i try to divide my picture into sections and color one section at a time instead of a picture as a whole. (for example: one letter is a section, one arm, leg, etc...) that way, if you do section by section, you can stop if you need to once you finish a section.

 

one last thing, re-outline once your done coloring, that makes the picture stand out a little more and looks neater. if you make a mistake while coloring (coloring over the line) just re-outline it and make the line a little thicker so that it covers where the color went over. if a mistake is made that cant be covered, try to incorporate it into the picture itself.

 

dont know if this was any help or if i explained clearly enough, but this works for me.

 

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in this pic, i divided it up into sections. i did the shading first, then light colors, then darker colors. i went over the light colors again at certain places to add detail.

 

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here you can see i colored in the background. this is what i was talking about when i mentioned starting and stopping. you can see the line by his right hand going straight up. also on the bottom i made the same mistake again, so i tried to make it look like fire . i could have added more detail to make the fire look more realistic, but i was too lazy. but thats what i meant about making mistakes part of the picture. i also did a little yellow outline around him. i did this because i was using design markers for the background, and the colors spread a lot, so the yellow outline stopped the orange from spreading over onto the character, and it looks kinda like an effect.

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Shift you have got to be one of my favorite artists on 12Oz. Props and thanks for the pointers.

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sorry shift, some of that is misleading advice. when coloring in, you should color in tight circles and work wet. if you use even strokes in the same direction then you will get streak lines; you would have to go back over them.

 

watch this:

http://www.prismacolor.com/sanford/consumer/prismacolor/mystudio/flashPopup.jhtml?flash=marker.swf

 

coloring tutorial by Prismacolor

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p.s. most of the advice SHIFT gave is really good

 

usually you should lay down the shade that will be the lightest area to the entire area, then color in the black areas, then the shading, then work from light to dark. work wet and work fast.

 

make sure to define a lightsource so you know where to shade and do highlights/lowlights

 

if you need to blend then lay down the lighter color, then go over it with a darker color, then go back over it with the lighter color again. another good tip is to use a color that is between your lightest color and your darkest color to blend.

 

or just use the Prismacolor colorless blender(if you're using prismas, but it also works on other markers)

 

for highlights, you can use a nib and white ink, or a thin brush, and white acrylic paint.

 

also, if you want to highlight/lowlight something it doesnt have to be white or black, you can just use a lighter/darker shade of the same color

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yea i should have mentioned coloring in tight circles too. i use strokes when im working in small areas, and circles in larger areas. when i use design markers i color in strokes because its easier that way for me since design markers dry a little slower than prismas and blend alot easier. if you draw a line with a design and look at it, you will notice that the line spreads out becoming about two to three times its original width. thats why i color in strokes, since they spread, they blend into each other smoothly without producing streak lines. with prismas on the other hand, they dont spread out as much and dry quicker than designs, so thats why i would use circles instead of strokes with prismas, especially in larger areas.

 

but thats how i color. my way might not necessarily be the best way to color for someone else, but it works for me.

 

your advice on blending is perfect. its very important to work wet.

 

while it,s really good to look up these kind of techniques online, i think everyone should actually experiment and see what works for them. read to get an idea of what you should be doing. actually trying different techniques will let you see the various effects and let you see which you'd prefer.

 

here are the techniques i use for the different type of markers that i have:

 

prismacolor and design2 markers

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basically what you mentioned above. the only thing i do differently is use strokes when im working in small areas (areas that dont require very long strokes). i use strokes when im coloring areas that are less than about 1 1/2" in height. but other than that, tight circles work all the time too.

 

original design markers

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i really only use strokes with these markers because they dont dry as quickly as prismas and design2 markers. they stay wet longer, spread a lot and blend easily, so i dont use circles since that would really saturate the page with ink and bleed a lot through the other side. strokes work fine when im using these markers.

 

but like i said my way may not be the best way for other people. just experiment and see what works for you.

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word bro! theres no right or wrong way to do something, if it looks good then you did it right!

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damn....newkon your work is crazy. you're one of the best artist on this site. if you're saying r00t is your teacher then i can't imagine the kind of work he does. post up something r00t. i'd really like to see some of your work.

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