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social engineering,human conditioning and a general dumbing effect on our generation

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I'm not huge on conspiracy theories, but there is a lot of good information on the website where I got this article. If you have any more information or discussion on the horrible direction our popular culture is leading us , I guess this is the official 12oz. spot to discuss it. I think people are way too quiet about these issues, almost like everyone is silently guilty of being a consumer whore these days.

 

 

Subtle Messages, Profound Implications

 

Advertising, Social Engineering, & the New World Order

 

Introduction:

Most of us see hundreds each day and thousands each week. Their messages are subtle, and repeated and reinforced incessantly. They are on television, on the highways, on city buses, atop buildings, in magazines and newspapers, and even in our conversations as we repeat them to ourselves and others. They reach the very depths of our consciousness. And if allowed to enter unimpeded and unquestioned, their concepts become part of our being... They are advertisements. They offer subtle messages with profound implications.

Because we hate commercial messages, it's easy to dismiss them as unworthy of serious study. Furthermore we may underestimate the impact that ads actually have on us and our children. This...can have subtle, but far-reaching consequences. (DeMoss Jr., Robert,
Learn to Discern
, pg 22)

Many of us are unaware of the dangers that ads pose to our individual selves and to our society as a whole. And our ignorance is by design. Were we to realize their impact on our psyches and our souls and our interpersonal relationships, we might never look at them. But still, we watch. And worse, we regurgitate their messages to others. And still worse, we think their ideas to be our own. We think their doctrine to be truth. This is because we have been had. We have been manipulated, and continue to be so, and we still go back for more. We think we are free, but only because we have been conditioned to think so. We believe that we think freely, but the parameters have been defined by other than ourselves.

They are, generally, unaware of the extent to which they are manipulated, managed, and conditioned by media, governments, leaders, and institutions that serve the vested interests of their political-social-economic systems. (Key, Wilson Bryan,
The Age of Manipulation
, pg 95)

Remarkably, virtually everyone in developed countries desperately tries to believe that they are immune to indoctrination. They think they think for themselves and readily know the difference between truth and falsity, fantasy and reality, superstition and science, fact and fiction. Technologically sophisticated cultures are conditioned to accept belief systems, behaviors, and values that would have been rejected out of hand by their stone-age predecessors. Primitives would instantly sense the obvious threats to survival and adjustment, or simple nonsense, inherent in many of the treasured beliefs of modern society. (Key, Wilson Bryan,
The Age of Manipulation
, pg 95)

The people who watch more and know less don't necessarily know they are being politically massaged or how media manipulation has become so invisibly institutionalized. They don't know that dumbing down is not just an incidental effect of the way many media outlets operate but a reflection of conscious and calculated policies of down-market targeting. (Schechter, Danny,
The More you Watch the Less you Know
, pg 73)

The advertising industry, in conjunction with corporate and media conglomeration, are destroying the family, and with it, society. Their messages are contrary to the prophetic tradition. They manipulate our language and alter our precepts. They discard history in favor of a strange worship of "progress". And we have been converted. The focus, here, is only one component of the indoctrination and conversion process; advertising.

 

the rest of the article and many more like it is here...

http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/nwo-subtle.html

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i didn't read that, but just wanted to say there's a killer bbc documentary that just came out called 'century of the self' that you can find and watch the 4 parts if you google it. alot of relevent, historical stuff that most people today would scoff off at as unreal. another awesome resource is a book called 'taking the risk out of democracy' which gives a historical account of the rise of corporate propaganda in america and the massive influence it's had in shaping the world.

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there was way more advertisment in the 19th century and early 20th century...its not an issue... and if you ask me I think the world is becoming a safer and generally better place...of course there are reactionaries who will holler and scream about the "old days", but hasn't that always been the case?

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how was there 'way more advertisment in the 19th and early 20th century' than now?

 

 

I know right. I laughed out loud when I read that.

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Google "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars".

Read it, it's not THAT long.

 

 

Supposedly, it was retrieved out of an IBM copy machine in 1986 at a flea market, it's dated 1979. It contains the manifesto of the New World Order. It's in the opening chapter of "Behold A Pale Horse".

 

Now, I try to remain in "reality" when it comes to any conspiracy theory stuff, but if you read the paper.... you can see most of the discussed items happening right now.

 

It's an interesting read.

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also, do you know much about public relations and advertising history in america from the early 20th century? fill me in on some of that unknown shit..

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I love this topic. The NLP of advertising, but only spoken word/TV advertising. Also there are some people who think that the NYC graffiti movement of the 70's and early 80's was a subconcious response to the boom in billboard and large scale print add campaigns of that time. Anyway, to touch on the point of the New World Order manifesto.... no need to look in a book for hidden messages.... the NWO has a website http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

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uh...so can you maybe elaborate how there was 'way more' advertising back then than there is now?

 

for real

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I wouldn't say there was MORE advertisement back then, but it was definitely just as pervasive as it is today. The difference is that there's more MEDIUMS today than back then, so the illusion of it being more pervasive is stronger.

 

When you have no TV and no radio, simply having ads in all the newspapers is quite pervasive.

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theres definaly more advertising nowadays for the simple fact of there being WAAAAAAAY more businesses now. i mean half of the country that is being advertised in was a forest 30 years ago. I'm sitting in a coffee shop right now that was a patch of trees a year ago. Now they have signs out front , newspaper ads, commercials, flyers etc. etc.

 

theres no way possible there was more advertising in the 19th and 20th century.

I mean, the population of people has doubled since then or more.

How could there have been more of anything back then?

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Also there are some people who think that the NYC graffiti movement of the 70's and early 80's was a subconcious response to the boom in billboard and large scale print add campaigns of that time.

 

 

Read "Taking The Train" by Joe Austin.

it's an excellent book about the whole movement, and touches on the subject of advertisings influence on early writers.

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more excellent reading and advice..

 

 

TV News

Manipulating Public Opinion in the New World Order

 

Introduction

 

TV news. It's effects are subtle. Because we are adults, we feel as though we can watch it with little consequence. Despite the fact that we rarely act on anything it presents besides the weather and the traffic, we still seem to find utility in it. Our children, however, may need some help by way of background information, analysis, and commentary. But not us. We are free-thinking adults. The TV news doesn't exert any untoward effects on us. Besides, the TV news comes through a television. Like other things in our homes, we can turn it on and off. We can change the channel. We are in control.

 

 

Or are we?...

 

Filler for Commercials

 

With most of us being decent human beings, more often than not, we like to assume the best. So, for example, we tend to think that insurance companies exist to assist us in times of need. We like to think that pharmaceutical companies are working diligently to produce needed medicines for the sake of improving quality of life and relieving illness. And, most of us are of the opinion that the primary function of television news is to provide the public with information.

 

While these may indeed be the intentions of some individuals in these various industries, these are by no means their primary functions. Maybe secondary. Maybe tertiary, but certainly not primary. These industries exist to make money. And while most of us might say, "Well, yeah, of course," it is still a concept worth reflecting on. News is merely filler for commercials.

 

 

Fragmented Worldview

 

Television is made up of abrupt changes in scenes, pictures, and sounds. These changes are quite intentional and serve to keep our attention. If we continue watching, we are more likely to purchase the products aired on the commercials.

 

Conceptually, we are forced to move from one issue to the next, with commercials in between. In a matter of seconds, our thoughts might go from what is happening in Jerusalem to which toppings we want on our pizza. Then we hear about collateral damages in Afghanistan, quickly followed up with the latest sports news. Our thoughts become disorganized and we fail to see order in what is portrayed as chaos. We feel horror and shock at the beginning of the program only to have it followed by a lighter segment of "news" about a dog show or the latest charity fundraiser. And when that is all through, we get a little taste of the newscasters joking back and forth with the meterologist. The structure of news programs does not lend itself to analysis.

 

How can we make sense of it all?

 

 

How-and-What vs Why

 

Whether we are conscious of it or not, the information portrayed by television news is very clearly focused on the "what" and the "how". The "why", however, is often absent.

 

When the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were bombed, the news coverage spent an inordinate amount of time on the exact goings-on of what color the van was, what the security guard was thinking when he saw the van, what class of explosive was used, etc. Elaborate three dimensional computer-generated images were displayed, zooming in and out, with voice overlay describing what the person looked like and which group was likely the responsible party. This went on ad nauseum. Never was the question asked, "Why would someone do this horrible act?" Or, "Why bomb the US embassies? Why not someone else's?" Only how they did it, and what happened.

 

Why did they do it? I may not know, but at least ask the question. If the question is asked, it may get probed further. If our journalists sought answers to this question as vigorously as they sought the answers of how and what, they might discover a people discontented with US imperialist and oppressive activities overseas. If the American people hear what the US and her allies are perpetrating overseas, they may stand up against it. They may change their vote. They may finally side with the oppressed.

 

The same basic question can be applied to the October 2000 killing of three Israeli soldiers during the Palestinian uprising. If you recall the event, four soldiers found themselves in Ramallah and were taken into Palestinian police custody. The people broke into the police facility and killed three of the soldiers. Every intricate detail was noted on the news. How they got in, what was said when one of the Palestinians answered the cell phone of one of the soldiers, etc. Never was the question asked, "Why did they do it?" Any free-thinking logical human being would realize that this is the result of war and oppression. The Palestinian people have been suffering through atrocities for over fifty years at the hands of Israel. And, they were not killing children. They killed soldiers...men of war...during war. Furthermore, the "why" question was never pointed at the media itself. Why did the outcry over the death of three Israeli soldiers overshadow the death of over one hundred Palestinian civilians? Were we to answer this question, we might begin to question our source of information.

 

 

Lies, Illusion, and Politics

 

CBS and ABC reported in 1990 that a Kuwaiti refugee gave testimony before congress as an eye witness to Iraqi troops pulling babies out of incubators in Kuwaiti hospitals. Did this have any role in helping to convince the US congress and public to accept a war with Iraq? Probably so. It was not until months after US bombs began to fall that it was revealed that this "witness", herself a daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador, was coached by a public relations firm. 20/20 and 60 Minutes both aired specials in which Kuwaiti doctors denied such events ever occurring.

 

This was a case of lies being used to stir public opinion into fervor. Now for a case of timing. It was surely no accident that the strikes against Afghanistan were announced to the nation ten minutes before NFL kickoff on Sunday (12:50pm). This caused a delay in some of the games to allow the crowds time to watch the President's speech. Many were reported to start chanting "U-S-A U-S-A!!" And anyone who remembers CNN's coverage of the Gulf War remembers the football analogies. Why do the speeches of the players after winning a game sound strikingly similar to the interviews with US generals in Iraq and Afghanistan? Is war just a game? Is news entertainment? Should we not consider the news to be a fasiq?

 

 

Time

 

Let's put aside quality for a second. The number of words said in a half hour news program will all fit onto one page of a newspaper. One page. And this makes sense when we consider the time involved. In one half-hour news program there is approximately eight minutes of commercials, leaving twenty-two minutes of "news". Now, were we to further eliminate the time consumed by introductions, closings, sports, and weather, we would find about fifteen minutes of airtime. Is this enough time to report information and couch it in any kind of historical context? We are formulating opinions based on fifteen minutes?!

 

 

Diarrhea of the Mouth & Constipation of Thought: A Society of Opinions

 

Having worked in a large institution for quite some time, I have come to notice a phenomenon that I find to be quite troubling. That is, oftentimes, people merely regurgitate what they hear on the news. Whether it is about OJ Simpson, the World Trade Center, who wore what to the Grammy's, or some national leader's latest dance with the Shaytaan, it does not matter. Everyone has an opinion. And now that the US media is concentrated in the hands of only ten companies, who's opinion would one guess we regurgitate?

 

 

 

 

Conclusions

 

So my recommendations are as follows:

 

Turn off the TV. Time spent reading the newspaper is far more valuable than watching TV news as it provides ample time for analysis, you can select what you read, and you are not interrupted by commercials and quick changes of subject matter.

Understand their intentions. All businesses exist to make money. The news exists, not to give us information, but to provide a program that we will watch in order to sell the space in between segments to advertisers. Understanding their intentions is key to any analysis of their messages.

Educate our children. This means interaction, spending time, engaging in education. Education and schooling are different. Educate them to think critically, not simply to go along with everyone else (like a school of fish). Thinking critically will only lead to their protection and will only lead to the conclusion that Islam is the Truth.

Take account of yourself and your family. Take a personal account of what your eyes see, what your ears hear, and what your tongue says. Do all of this before Allah Subhannahu Wa Ta'aala takes you to account.

Use Qur'an as Furqaan (a criterion between right & wrong).

We should lower our gaze. This includes lowering the gaze from television imagery.

Leave Off that Which Does Not Concern You

Rearrange your living room. Move the furniture into positions which take the television out of the central position.

Make it a family policy to have no televisions in the bedrooms.

Read media critique written by journalists and independent filmmakers. They know the system and the people that operate within that system best.

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Re: social engineering,human conditioning and a general dumbing effect on our generat

 

I wouldn't say there was MORE advertisement back then, but it was definitely just as pervasive as it is today. The difference is that there's more MEDIUMS today than back then, so the illusion of it being more pervasive is stronger.

 

When you have no TV and no radio, simply having ads in all the newspapers is quite pervasive.

 

 

 

yeah this is what I was kinda referring to. if you ever read old newspapers or see old newspapers, you will see how things were much MORE covered in ads. If you look at old buildings, you can see alot of the old advertisment murals. look at baseball stadia. They were coverd in ads at the turn of the century. Way less than know.

 

 

Plus advertisments were way less regualted in the old days, so much more dangerous.

 

 

Today we have TV and lots more magazines, but its really not more, just different media...

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nope, still definately more now.

 

If you want to start getting into more per person (according to the population and developement) or something like that, then I might be interested in looking at some numbers from a study on that, but I'm sticking with WAY MORE advertising now than then.

 

1.nowadays everyone has a "side business" and a business card.

2. vehicle wraps, vinyl lettering, banners, digital printing.

3. bus billboards, train ads (inside and out)

4. gas station mini tv screen when you pump your gas encouraging you to

get a bag of doritos and a coke.

5. geurilla ad campaigns, mass production of uv clear flyers for clubs, parties etc.

stencils etc.

6.INTERNET!!!! what about the INTERNET??? theres probably more advertising on the internet alone than there was back then (if were talking in terms of how many people it reaches)

 

theres way more, but I think I can safely stop with internet ads vs. coke murals and baseball

stadiums.

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i didn't read that' date=' but just wanted to say there's a killer bbc documentary that just came out called 'century of the self' that you can find and watch the 4 parts if you google it. alot of relevent, historical stuff that most people today would scoff off at as unreal. another awesome resource is a book called 'taking the risk out of democracy' which gives a historical account of the rise of corporate propaganda in america and the massive influence it's had in shaping the world.[/quote']

 

Thanks to OCD, i just finished watching all four hours of it. Very cool series.

 

http://youtube.com/results?search=century%20of%20the%20self&sort=relevance

The four parts are broken up into five parts each.

 

If anyone else watches em all I wouldnt mind discussing all the ideas.

-Humans are driven by primitave sexual and agressive emotions that can't be trusted.

 

-In an early psychological experiment with unhappy children, a psychologist made the children conform to society. The results were at first a success since the children lived out normal happy lives, each married and settled down. The research later went into developing a template for post-war American life. Later however, the children had emotional breakdowns and failed marriges. To me its interesting since if that was our cultural template, and so many marriges fail today, are we in fact conditioned to fail at marriges.

 

-Pre war people bought according to necessity. Americans were the working men. Post war, marketing advertised buying things not for a rational necessity, but for desire. Americans are now consumers.

 

-Modern big buisness markets to the individual since when you only make what one needs, eventually they stop buying. When products are an extention of one's personality, and the line of thought is the more shit you buy the more interesting you become, there is no end to people buying shit.

 

-This new sense of consumerism even reflects how we vote, since we see the government as something we're buying with taxes. We also expect the government to adhear to the changing desires of the people, much like big buisness follows the trends of consumer culture.

 

There's a ton of interesting shit packed into these videos. Lets discuss.

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I agree with a lot of this.

 

Recently I was watching "Wonder Showzen" on MTV2 and was a little shocked at that the whole episode mocked and shamed obesity, while there were literally four commercials, one after the other, selling weight loss pills and other treatments for obesity.

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Thanks to OCD, i just finished watching all four hours of it. Very cool series.

 

http://youtube.com/results?search=century%20of%20the%20self&sort=relevance

The four parts are broken up into five parts each.

 

If anyone else watches em all I wouldnt mind discussing all the ideas.

-Humans are driven by primitave sexual and agressive emotions that can't be trusted.

 

-In an early psychological experiment with unhappy children, a psychologist made the children conform to society. The results were at first a success since the children lived out normal happy lives, each married and settled down. The research later went into developing a template for post-war American life. Later however, the children had emotional breakdowns and failed marriges. To me its interesting since if that was our cultural template, and so many marriges fail today, are we in fact conditioned to fail at marriges.

 

-Pre war people bought according to necessity. Americans were the working men. Post war, marketing advertised buying things not for a rational necessity, but for desire. Americans are now consumers.

 

-Modern big buisness markets to the individual since when you only make what one needs, eventually they stop buying. When products are an extention of one's personality, and the line of thought is the more shit you buy the more interesting you become, there is no end to people buying shit.

 

-This new sense of consumerism even reflects how we vote, since we see the government as something we're buying with taxes. We also expect the government to adhear to the changing desires of the people, much like big buisness follows the trends of consumer culture.

 

There's a ton of interesting shit packed into these videos. Lets discuss.

 

 

I watched the first video, where they were talking about WW2. You know what the craziest part of war is? The fact that whover wins gets to write the history about it.

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