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Originally posted by Stereotype V.001+Mar 31 2006, 10:42 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stereotype V.001 - Mar 31 2006, 10:42 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-BAN-THIS!!!@Mar 31 2006, 09:34 PM

And I can tell from the way you talk that you're a Jew

 

Yeah man. Shit turned sour real quick when the palestinians decided they wern't going to just bend over and accept a Jewish invasion. Poor Jews. grlaugh.gif

 

There was no "two state" solution when the Jews first invaded Palestine

 

Reading the mein kampf much? You really are incredibly stupid.

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You ever notice that everyone is pretty much laughing at you on here?

And you're calling ME stupid? :haha:

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Originally posted by BAN-THIS!!!+Mar 31 2006, 09:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BAN-THIS!!! - Mar 31 2006, 09:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MAR@Mar 31 2006, 09:53 AM

Go learn so history i can tell by the way you are talking you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

And I can tell from the way you talk that you're a Jew that refuses to accept reality. You sound like the southern redneck with the yellow ribon on his pickup truck that honestly believes that America is free and we're in Iraq and Afganistan to liberate them. Only you're the Jewish version.

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Back it up. If you feel that Jews "invaded" Israel bring me proof. I'm an open minded person, dispite your illustration of me. Calling me names doesnt prove anything, it just shows that you immature.

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Originally posted by BAN-THIS!!!@Apr 3 2006, 01:13 AM

They didn't invade "Isreal", they invaded Palestinian land and named it Isreal. I don't need to dig up a history text book and scan it for you cause you already know what I'm talking about you're just playing dumb.

 

No please enlighten me. I truly have no idea what you are talking about. Invasion of "Palestine", which by the way was named after the Philistines (no relation to the people known as palestinans) by the Romans after they took over the land from the Jews. If I remember correctly the "Palestinians" never had control of the land you are refering to so did the jews invade the turkish and british land? Its surprising they didnt get squashed. I mean the turkish and british armies were huge and the first and second aliyahs were rather small in comparison.

 

So I must be really confused after years of personal study of the matter. The history books I was reading must be defunct so please scan away, and dont forget to give me the name of the books so I can do some further study. Oh and make sure they are in English my Arabic is kinda rusty.

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There you go playing dumb again. You know damn well that the land the Jews settled on in the late 1940's already belonged to the Palestinians. It's common knowledge to the rest of the world. You can hide behind your (Hebrew) lies all you want but the only people that realy buy it are other Jews. Yall doing the same thing America did to the native Americans only you're trying to claim that there never were real natives to begin with and trying to play the victim role everytime they fight back. Here's a thought, if you don't want your familly members and other civilians getting killed then don't move them to a country that you've invaded while the natives are pist and aint trying to have it. If you feel so strongly about moving your family to some sacred holly "promised land" that your ancestors abandoned eons ago and has since been populated and deeply rooted by Muslim Arabs that also consider it to be THEIR sacred "holly grounds"... then don't act all shocked and victimized when they retaliate. Especially when Jews and Arabs have always been at eachothers throats and hated eachother for centuries.

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because north korea has threatened the united states with a pre-emptive strike... you know

 

like the one we did with iraq... which america has never done before

 

UNTIL BUSH GOT INTO OFFICE

 

north korea put a million troops on thier borders and has threatened the united states with threats to nuke hawaii and california. when bush said there is evil in there

 

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if you look at how america got the philipines.. you'll see its the same way america got iraq

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just last week the news reported it...

 

north korea has talked about bombing hawaii and california...

 

why isnt that in the news??

 

we dont want to provoke them, i guess

 

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i meant to say, why is it not BIG news

 

and also.. what would america think if it became big news... the middle east would look like a dream compared to a real nightmare

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Originally posted by NightOwl@Apr 3 2006, 07:09 PM

because north korea has threatened the united states with a pre-emptive strike... you know

 

like the one we did with iraq... which america has never done before

 

UNTIL BUSH GOT INTO OFFICE

 

north korea put a million troops on thier borders and has threatened the united states with threats to nuke hawaii and california. when bush said there is evil in there

 

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if you look at how america got the philipines.. you'll see its the same way america got iraq

 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.

America has never struck first, eh?

I think the people of Kosovo, Sudan, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam and many other countries would disagree with you.

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I love when people talk about WOMD's..

 

When america releases depleted uranium into The earth..hmm

 

America has also bombed over 53 countrys after WWII....

 

As well as destroying religious monuments in India & Afghanistan

 

And "Suicide Terrorist" Look at all the suicide missions American agents went on..

 

I'm not against USA,I love it..I just hate who runs it..

 

"The real powers In washington work from behind the scenes"

-Clintons sos..

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Originally posted by BAN-THIS!!!@Apr 3 2006, 08:04 PM

There you go playing dumb again.

Im not playing dumb I waiting for you to man up and prove me wrong.

 

You know damn well that the land the Jews settled on in the late 1940's already belonged to the Palestinians. It's common knowledge to the rest of the world.

1940's!?!?! If your going to argue with me get your facts straight. Try 1880's and still no. It was not "thier" land it was bought back from the turkish and british who controlled the land,look it up.

 

You can hide behind your (Hebrew) lies all you want but the only people that realy buy it are other Jews. Yall doing the same thing America did to the native Americans only you're trying to claim that there never were real natives to begin with and trying to play the victim role everytime they fight back.

What lies? Show me some lies!

 

America? The europeans never had a claim to that land so how would that make sense?

 

They exsist the same way Americans exsits. They are a conglomerant of people from different parts of the middle east that settled in the land now known as Israel.

 

Victim role? We are the victims of countless suicide and ambush attacks on civilians. If they attacked soldiers exclusively it would be a different story.

 

Here's a thought, if you don't want your familly members and other civilians getting killed then don't move them to a country that you've invaded while the natives are pist and aint trying to have it.

WE ARE THE NATIVES.

 

If you feel so strongly about moving your family to some sacred holly "promised land" that your ancestors abandoned eons ago and has since been populated and deeply rooted by Muslim Arabs that also consider it to be THEIR sacred "holly grounds"...

It was never abandoned. We were kicked out by the romans and subsiquent invaders. Some jews managed to stay but most were removed.

 

Deeply rooted? Hardly I'll get you some British census reports.

 

then don't act all shocked and victimized when they retaliate. Especially when Jews and Arabs have always been at eachothers throats and hated eachother for centuries.

 

Thats not true either. Jews and Arabs have got along in the past. The Golden age of Spain for example or Israel-Turkish and Israel-Jordan relations now.

 

Look I can do this all day but do yourself a favor and read up on the subject. You seem uninformed, there is no shame in that, so step back for a minute a read a couple books. I suggest you read both sides of the conflict so you get a nice contrast and therefore can make an informed desision on the matter.

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.

America has never struck first, eh?

I think the people of Kosovo, Sudan, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam and many other countries would disagree with you.

 

yeah.. i think i spoke too fast.. i would like to think that other countries talked to america first before america went in to fuck shit up.

like the problem was already there sorta thing

 

with iraq... that was outa nowhere

 

and all lies to invade iraq have been proven to be what they are.. lies

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Haha.... ^^^^

It's going to take me a minute to catch up on this as well. It seems like every thread in crossfire has been bogging down into sectarian violence lately. I'm afraid a civil war might break out.

May I make some suggestions? Post sources!!!!!!!!

People quibble about not knowing the facts, well then present the facts. Simple thing. And it makes you much more credible.

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north korea: fine. no problem with that.

 

venezuela, however, i do have a problem with you saying that.

why do you want it nuked? because chavez is giving back the land that the rich stole formt he poor? because he called bush out for being hilter-esque?

because he won't bow to our concessions? why? give me one good reason why you're hating on a good country an a good president (of venezuela).

 

as for iran: it's like this, our govt. wants key positions in the middle east to carry out strikes on the rest of the middle east. Operation Iraqi Liberation. O.I.L.

 

derrrrr.

 

HOLD ON, HOMIE. You're pretty much defending COMMUNISM there. He's doing EXACTLY what Fidell Castro did. & Fidell is actually COACHING him on it. Telling him step by step what to do to slowly choke the dam country.

It's 1 thing to call out Bush (WE"RE ALL DOING THAT)

& another to Not bow to our concessions..(everybody should stand up for themselves)

but don't come in here with that good president crap. Chavez is a dictator in the making.

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Chavez may be making some questionable moves to consolidate power but he is far and away better than the fascist plutocracy he replaced. He's not a popular socialist leader with tremendous grassroots support for nothing. His power grabs would be hard to describe as selfish, given how much he has done for his people.

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Joan Eva Morales in Bolivia has more balls than Hugo Chavez because Chavez only increased taxes on the oil companies operating in Venezuela. Morales plans on completely nationalizing the oil companies in Bolivia. What we are really talking about when we are asking if their moves are sustainable or not is how much ire are they going to draw from the powerful international oil juntas? There's already been an assassination attempt on Chavez but he remains undaunted. There's a powerful social movement in South America to come out from under the yoke of these dubious trade agreements that have been pushed even more heavily in recent years. NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT... people can only take so much.

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Well, Well, Well,

 

Look what north korea is doing testing out there new Missiles...They are sending a message to the world that they are here and wont take shit from no one.

 

PREDICTION:

MEXICO GOES COMMIE

VENEZUELA BACKS THEM UP

IRAN IS ON THE SAME BAN WAGGON'

 

NUCLEAR THREATS IN ABOUT 6-9 years

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hey MAR i actually dont know the answer to this so dont take it as me tryign to have a dig at you.

 

but by your logic wouldnt the jews not in fact be native to israel because they just rocked up there after they escaped egypt or whatever? from a purely anthropological perspective not because god promised them the land or whatever some might claim.

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