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Originally posted by bobthedestroyer@Mar 18 2006, 02:21 AM

Let me give you a little hisotry lesson on how it's not the presidents, it's the pussy ass americans who are to blame for the lack of action.

 

Most recent example: Somalia. The country was being torn apart... so... the U.S. sends a fuckload of troops... then people start crying about how it's not our war, how we have no right to be there, how we are there to destory the mulsims this and that shit... So then, in mogadishu, the Rangers substain some casualties.... what is the outcry of the americans? "BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW, WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE THERE"... and what did the government do? It pulled all of it's troops out.

 

The people of this country are idiots who just wanna bitch about something. Iraq is a perfectly good example as well... after sustaining some losses people are crying at the top of their lungs about how the U.S. is doing so much wrong.

 

If we were to go to Africa I'm sure that there would be enough dumbass muslims out there hateing America even more because we sent troops to kill their muslim friends who are doing some cleansing. And soon thereafter, dumb fuck liberal college kids would start protesting to bring the troops home, and how it's not our war and so forth.

 

Moral of the story? Don't do anything and that will enrage liberals, do something that will enrage liberals... and at the same time the conservatives will get rich off of both. That's america for you.

Its true

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The American people are not idiots. They know very well that we go to war to defend our national interests, whatever they may be. Afghanistan is essentially the crackhouse at the end of the street where all the asshole criminals hang out. Nobody owns or controls it, so all the shitheels gather there to cause shit. Either you figure out a way to control it, or burn the sonofabitch down to deny them access to it. Either way, it won't be a problem for you in the future.

 

Iraq is like the little gang of peewees that is a constant fucking annoyance, but they're not really big enough or tough enough to be dangerous. Then you find out that they have a gas station. Huh. Those little shits got no business with a gas station---we should control that fucking station.

 

As soon as the hit hits the fan, all the little crybabies in the neighborhood start in about how can't you boys just get along and why are you always starting trouble? They cry about the peewees starting shit, then they cry about you kicking their sorry little peewee asses. You can't win. But they would like it fine if the price of gas would go down. You know, like fucking magic or something.

 

But if they would just shut up and let the home boys handle business, we'd be through with crackheads, crack houses, peewee gangsters AND high gas prices. But no, they can't do that. But you know, when someone starts breaking their windows and shit, who do they call? It ain't the UN, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by KaBar2@Mar 18 2006, 06:33 PM

The American people are not idiots. They know very well that we go to war to defend our national interests, whatever they may be. Afghanistan is essentially the crackhouse at the end of the street where all the asshole criminals hang out. Nobody owns or controls it, so all the shitheels gather there to cause shit. Either you figure out a way to control it, or burn the sonofabitch down to deny them access to it. Either way, it won't be a problem for you in the future.

 

Iraq is like the little gang of peewees that is a constant fucking annoyance, but they're not really big enough or tough enough to be dangerous. Then you find out that they have a gas station. Huh. Those little shits got no business with a gas station---we should control that fucking station.

 

As soon as the hit hits the fan, all the little crybabies in the neighborhood start in about how can't you boys just get along and why are you always starting trouble? They cry about the peewees starting shit, then they cry about you kicking their sorry little peewee asses. You can't win. But they would like it fine if the price of gas would go down. You know, like fucking magic or something.

 

But if they would just shut up and let the home boys handle business, we'd be through with crackheads, crack houses, peewee gangsters AND high gas prices. But no, they can't do that. But you know, when someone starts breaking their windows and shit, who do they call? It ain't the UN, that's for sure.

gee what a great analogy :rolleyes:

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I found this little bit of information bloody astounding-

 

Israel, Germany Helping Darfur Rebels, Sudan Government Says

 

Dec. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Israel is arming the rebels in Sudan's western province of Darfur, and Germany is hosting their leaders, a Sudanese minister said, after talks between the government and the rebellion failed to reach an agreement.

 

``The information on Israel's involvement in supporting the rebels with arms is true,'' said State Minister at the Interior Ministry, Mohamed Ahmed Haroun, at a press conference yesterday in Khartoum, according to Sudan's official news agency SUNA. ``Germany is opening its hotels for the rebel leaders and funding their conferences.''

 

It is the first time that the government in Khartoum has accused Germany of helping the rebels. Last month, it criticized Germany for expressing readiness to contribute soldiers and transport planes to peace keeping missions in Darfur.

 

The Khartoum government has already accused Israel of arming the rebels. Today Haroun said ``persons involved'' in supplying the rebels with weapons from Israel have been arrested by a ``friendly country'' which he didn't name.

 

The government and Darfur's two main rebel movements, the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement, yesterday suspended until January their negotiations in Abuja, Nigeria. The United Nations considers the war in Darfur as the world's worst humanitarian situation.

 

Government-backed militias have driven more than 2 million black Africans from their villages in the Darfur region and caused as many as 300,000 deaths from violence or disease and hunger since February 2003.

 

The African Union has about 900 peacekeepers in the region, and agreed on Oct. 20 to send 3,320 security personnel. The AU has temporarily suspended monitoring flights over the region after one of its helicopters was fired upon, the British Broadcasting Corp. reported Dec. 20.

 

The deteriorating situation prompted the U.K.-based aid group Save the Children to withdraw its 350 workers from Darfur after the violent deaths of four of its workers and other security incidents.

 

 

 

To contact the reporter of this story:

Maher Chmaytelli in Cairo at mchmaytelli@bloomberg.net

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Yum---

Well, I was just trying to make it as simple as possible for those people that can't seem to comprehend that the world is a dangerous place and that if the United States doesn't take action to defend it's interests, then somebody else will take action to defend their own.

 

Let's take this back to Darfur.

 

We aren't spending a billion dollars a day fixing Darfur because

a.) they are no threat to us

b.) there is no money to be made in Darfur so far (this could always change, and if it does, suddenly Darfur will become "a vital strategic partner against Terrorism") and

c.) Darfur has no OIL.

 

If the poor bastards just had some money, though, slimey international arms merchants would be glad to sell them some worn out AK47's and RPG launchers at top dollar. Then they could defend themselves against the Janjaweed militia. Have you any idea how many tubercular goats it takes to purchase a beat-up surplus Egyptian AK47? A bunch. Being poor sucks. Being UNARMED sucks even worse.

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Originally posted by KaBar2@Mar 18 2006, 07:33 AM

The American people are not idiots. They know very well that we go to war to defend our national interests, whatever they may be. Afghanistan is essentially the crackhouse at the end of the street where all the asshole criminals hang out. Nobody owns or controls it, so all the shitheels gather there to cause shit. Either you figure out a way to control it, or burn the sonofabitch down to deny them access to it. Either way, it won't be a problem for you in the future.

 

Iraq is like the little gang of peewees that is a constant fucking annoyance, but they're not really big enough or tough enough to be dangerous. Then you find out that they have a gas station. Huh. Those little shits got no business with a gas station---we should control that fucking station.

 

As soon as the hit hits the fan, all the little crybabies in the neighborhood start in about how can't you boys just get along and why are you always starting trouble? They cry about the peewees starting shit, then they cry about you kicking their sorry little peewee asses. You can't win. But they would like it fine if the price of gas would go down. You know, like fucking magic or something.

 

But if they would just shut up and let the home boys handle business, we'd be through with crackheads, crack houses, peewee gangsters AND high gas prices. But no, they can't do that. But you know, when someone starts breaking their windows and shit, who do they call? It ain't the UN, that's for sure.

 

 

I'm glad people are finally starting to admit this. I've been saying this since 2002. I know the bush administration and war supporters have put oodles of excuses on the news for going to war like freeing Iraqis,WMD's,getting Saddam,9-11 but this is the reason that most people have known was he real reason since day one. It's strategic positioning. Oh, well, what goes up must come down. It's the law of gravity.

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Originally posted by symbols+Mar 17 2006, 11:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (symbols - Mar 17 2006, 11:57 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-bobthedestroyer@Mar 17 2006, 11:21 AM

The people of this country are idiots who just wanna bitch about something.

 

you've summed yourself up really well.

 

getting harder and harder to pin the blame on these mysterious 'liberals'

must be some kinda all-powerful shadow group to have been so influential in our country's foreign policy decisions, and all this while the 'republicans' are holding all the power positions

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Symobls do you want to cut that Michael moore shit out? I used the words - conservatives and liberals... The terms are non-exclusive to any party. There are conservatives who are dems and there are conservatives that are reps... and vice versa.

 

Back to the actual point.

 

I couldn't have said it better than KaBar- Who's comments I always enjoy. I didn't actually mean that they are idiots as to what's going on... I meant idiots from my perspective for doing what they do...

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Originally posted by El Mamerro+Mar 14 2006, 04:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (El Mamerro - Mar 14 2006, 04:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Dawood@Mar 14 2006, 09:19 AM

The only permission Islam gives it's followers to killing is when it is a just killing like for instance stoning the adulterer or adultress

 

 

 

 

 

 

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it is actually a religion of justice and mercy.

 

 

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hahhaha

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February 2006

 

On February 3, 2006, as the United States began its month long presidency of the United Nations Security Council, the U.S offered a motion to begin plans to send UN peacekeepers to Darfur.

 

The Security Council agreed unanimously to begin the planning process to send the troops, with a final decision to come later. It called for a 12,000 to 20,000 troop presence in Darfur with the 7,000 African Union troops already there being given new weapons and being incorporated into the UN mission. Furthermore, they would have a greater mandate to protect civilians.

 

Nevertheless, difficulties are expected to arise in finding states willing to contribute troops to the UN mission. Although the United States offered the motion, the U.S is not expected to contribute troops to the mission.

 

Also, Omar al-Bashir, the leader of Sudan who is widely believed to be backing the Janjaweed militias in Darfur, has also frequently stated his opposition to UN peacekeepers in Sudan further complicating the problem. Assuming these problems are overcome, UN troops are still not likely to appear in Darfur for nearly a year.

 

Hummmm- makes you think - One word to sum this all up folks: Bosnia

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Originally posted by Dawood@Mar 14 2006, 10:19 AM

And as for the people being killed, they look like muslims to me (with the women wearing headscarves and the men wearing white Islamic thowbs) But , Still, i'll have to look more into it. May Allah ease the burden of the oppressed ones and destroy the oppressors, Ameen.

Ameen.

 

Yup, they look like Muslims to me too.

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Well, if the people of Darfur are Muslims, they why isn't the wonderful multicultural non-racist Islamic religion motivating the seemingly Arab janjaweed militia to spare the poor victims? Do you mean to tell me that there are RACISTS THAT ARE NOT WHITE PEOPLE? Oh, gosh, that couldn't possibly be true. Everybody knows that the blue-eyed devils are the only source of hate and cruelty in the world and it's all because of White skin privelege and Eurocentrism, blah blah blah.

 

The janjaweed militia is Arab Muslim. They are ethnically cleansing Darfur because they can, and the Darfurians (whatever) make dandy goatherds and prostitutes and maids, as long as you enslave them as children, murder or castrate their fathers, gang-rape their mothers and sell the remaining wretched human wreckage down the River. The world is a shithole of a place, full of horrible, horrible people. However, the good news is that janjaweed militiamen bleed red just like the rest of us and they are not even remotely bulletproof.

 

You want peace and justice in Darfur? Airdrop them 10,000 AK47's and a million rounds of ammunition with instructions on how to operate an AK47 written like cartoons. That will be the last we ever hear of the janjaweed militia. There will be about two very loud weeks, then blissfull peace, puncuated by normal life returning to Darfur. When they run out of ammunition, they'll start planting coca bushes to facilitate their new-found national defense posture.

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Originally posted by KaBar2@Mar 25 2006, 03:05 AM

Well, if the people of Darfur are Muslims, they why isn't the wonderful multicultural non-racist Islamic religion motivating the seemingly Arab janjaweed militia to spare the poor victims? Do you mean to tell me that there are RACISTS THAT ARE NOT WHITE PEOPLE? Oh, gosh, that couldn't possibly be true. Everybody knows that the blue-eyed devils are the only source of hate and cruelty in the world and it's all because of White skin privelege and Eurocentrism, blah blah blah.

 

The janjaweed militia is Arab Muslim. They are ethnically cleansing Darfur because they can, and the Darfurians (whatever) make dandy goatherds and prostitutes and maids, as long as you enslave them as children, murder or castrate their fathers, gang-rape their mothers and sell the remaining wretched human wreckage down the River. The world is a shithole of a place, full of horrible, horrible people. However, the good news is that janjaweed militiamen bleed red just like the rest of us and they are not even remotely bulletproof.

 

You want peace and justice in Darfur? Airdrop them 10,000 AK47's and a million rounds of ammunition with instructions on how to operate an AK47 written like cartoons. That will be the last we ever hear of the janjaweed militia. There will be about two very loud weeks, then blissfull peace, puncuated by normal life returning to Darfur. When they run out of ammunition, they'll start planting coca bushes to facilitate their new-found national defense posture.

 

 

 

I still doubt that the Janjaweed are muslims...Arab , yes, but muslim...I don't buy it yet. Even if they say theyre muslims, I still havent seen anything that proves it.

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from wikipedia:

 

 

The Janjaweed (variously spelled Janjawid, Jingaweit, Jinjaweed, Janjawiid, Janjiwid, etc.) is an armed militia group in Darfur, western Sudan, comprising fighters of Arab background (mainly from the originally nomadic Baggara people). Since 2003 it has been one of the principal actors in the increasingly bloody Darfur conflict, which has pitted nomadic tribes against the settled arable farmer tribes of the region. The Janjaweed represent the ruling Sunni Muslim government.

 

The name "Janjaweed" means "armed men on horseback." The Janjaweed is the successor to an earlier Arab tribal militia, the Murahilin (literally "nomads"), which had existed for many years beforehand.

 

 

 

so I looked up baggara peeps

 

 

 

 

The Baggara or Baqqarah are a nomadic Bedouin people inhabiting Africa from between Lake Chad and the Nile, in the states of Sudan (particularly Darfur), Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Nigeria, and the Central African Republic. They are also known as Shuwa Arabs. They are cattle-herders, migrating seasonally between grazing lands in the wet season and river areas in the dry season. They are mostly speakers of the Shuwa dialect of Arabic. Most are Muslims, thought to be the descendants of Arab tribes who settled the region during the Middle Ages. Their name is a term widely used in western Sudan for Arab pastoralists, meaning literally "cattle herder."

 

The Baggaras' pastoral lifestyle has led to conflict with the sedentary African farmers of the region concerning access to water and grazing land. This has been the source of ethnic tensions for many years, culminating in the bloody Darfur conflict which began in 2003.

 

The Baggara include several tribes, such as the Rizeigat, Ta’isha, Habbaniya in Darfur and Misseiria and the Humur and Hawazma in Kordofan. The Misseiria of Jebel Mun speak a Nilo-Saharan language, Tama (also called Miisiirii.)

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Originally posted by bobthedestroyer+Mar 19 2006, 07:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobthedestroyer - Mar 19 2006, 07:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Symobls do you want to cut that Michael moore shit out? I used the words - conservatives and liberals... The terms are non-exclusive to any party. There are conservatives who are dems and there are conservatives that are reps... and vice versa.

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I still doubt that the Janjaweed are muslims...Arab , yes, but muslim...I don't buy it yet. Even if they say theyre muslims, I still havent seen anything that proves it.

 

you guys are fucking hilarious.

 

bob do you think ANY republican out there would identify him or herself as a "liberal" right now?!?

 

and dawood, that's religion for ya, you should just go on believing whatever the fuck you wanna believe.

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