Pfffffffffft Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 im really poor and thinking of getting rid of cable modem which is like $29.00 a month... i got a wireless card but no router.. as i sit and make this thread...im using wireless access and someone elses router (i guess) i dont know much about this shit so... who else does this? can anyone find out? whats the risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 blaazed Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 my friend has been doing it for years, unless the person is a comp tech and watch theyre system they wont even know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isor357 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 so. You have a wireless card and you are close enough to someone with wireless internet that you can just hook in through them. Thats sweet. Im not so sure there is any risk. They probably pay a flat rate. Even if they were to notice someone else hooked into their connection A) can they prove its you? B) Is it costing them any more? C) Would anybody official bust down your door with guns drawn to find your wireless card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLICKCLACKONER Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 you'll be fine. is it just as fast as your cable service? i think speed will be the only sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozaki Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 i work in IT...i WISH my neighbors had wireless. that's the first thing i checked for when i got my new laptop(a wireless signal). consider yourself lucky, and hope they never encrypt it or move away or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crave Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 my home network is wireless, and locked down tight as fuck. but I don't really think that you have anything to worry about pffffft. jesus machine has it right, connection speed will probably suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw fish Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 if they leave their wireless connection wide open, you might as well use it... its not stealing at that point, its like an invitation... ive gone out driving around with my laptop just to find open connections, its good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabo 2 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by nozaki@Mar 5 2006, 03:22 PM i WISH my neighbors had wireless. Quoted post innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarekroe Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 IT'S NOT STEALING IF THEY HAVEN'T PUT A PASSWORD ON IT. IF THEY HAVE IT OUT THERE THEN HEY IT'S ALL GOOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 nice.. thanks. now saving 30 bucks a month. holler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNameSamePerson Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen. more likely, like most home users, they have no idea how to apply basic, let alone decent, security to the wireless network. Yeah you can buy good and easy to use software, but few home users know that or have enough knowledge to do more than stick the CD in and let it run itself thus they even have problems getting thesoftware properly installed and set up. but be careful because if you log on to there machine it could be a honeypot if you dont know what that is. Prolly do not. go to 12oz computer tech thread http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/index.php...ic=69679&st=160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 blaazed Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 theyre used to be this guy that worked at my job, and he had a laptob and a cellphone his wife didnt know about , and after work he would drive around and look for a connection and when he would find one he would go on the web and pick up girls on all those diff dating sites, he had a pretty good system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNameSamePerson Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 l“A honey pot is a computer system on the Internet that is expressly set up to attract and "trap" people who attempt to penetrate other people's computer systems� –whatis.com More Honeypot Definitions… l“A honeypot is an information system resource whose value lies in unauthorized or illicit use of that resource.� -Lance Spitzner lHoneypots are a highly flexible security tool with different applications for security lHave multiple uses, such as prevention, detection, or information gathering. Honeypots… lHoneypots all share the same concept: a security resource that should not have any production or authorized activity. lTheoretically, a honeypot should see no traffic because it has no legitimate activity. lThis means any interaction with a honeypot is most likely unauthorized or malicious activity. Honeypot Purposes lDistract hackers from more valuable systems on the network lCan provide early warning about new attack and exploitation trends lThey allow in-depth examination of adversaries during and after exploitation lServes as an Intrusion Detection System Types of Honeypots lThere are many different types of Honeypots and can generally be broken down into two types: nLow-interaction honeypot nHigh-interaction honeypot Low-interaction honeypots lThey have limited interaction. lThey normally work by emulating services and operating systems (e.g. FTP, telnet, SMTP, UNIX, Linux) lAttacker activity is limited to the level of emulation by the honeypot lExamples of low-interaction honeypots: Spectr, Honeyd and KFSensor High-interaction honeypots lUsually complex solutions that use real operating systems and applications lNo emulation is used, the attacker sees a real system lExample: a real FTP server on a Linux system with full interaction. lAvailable tools: Symantec Decoy Server and Honeynets. Advantages of Low-interaction honeypots lSimplicity lEasier to maintain and deploy lMinimal risk, as the emulated services control what attackers can and cannot do. Disadvantages of Low-interaction honeypots lCan only log limited information lDesigned to capture known activity lEmulated services can only do so much lBecoming easier for skilled attackers to identify Advantages of High-interaction honeypots lCan capture far more information, including new tools, communications, or attacker keystrokes. lLearn about the attackers behavior and unexpected behaviors lCan do everything a low-interaction honeypot can do and more Disadvantages of high-interaction honeypots lComplex and difficult to maintain lCan use this system to attack other non honeypot systems lRequires more resources Legal Issues of Honeypots lLiability: You can potentially be held liable if your honeypot is used to attack or harm other systems or organizations. This risk is the greatest with high-interaction honeypots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 $29 a month. doood thats nothing try $52 a month. fatalist/being raped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuse=--action Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 ^^ very interesting. Find some way to track the settings on the router. So that if they do add a key or a password, you'll have it. There's got to be a way to do it, but I'm too lazy to think of it right now. Or you could just put your own password on the router so that they can't change any settings. If they are dumb, they'll just think that someone else in the house made a password and no one will be able to figure it out. The problem is that they could just reset the router and add their own password. So I guess doing nothing is the best thing. Find out which neighbor it is. If they password protect it, offer to pay $10/month for access to their router. It pays 1/3 of their bill. -fuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by fatalist@Mar 5 2006, 12:37 PM $29 a month. doood thats nothing try $52 a month. fatalist/being raped. Quoted post average price $25 $30 • Up to 1.5 Mbps down • Faster than dial-up • Up to 128 Kbps up average price $50- $55 • Up to 5.0 Mbps down • Up to 512 Kbps up so yeah if you are only getting the 30 dollar deal and complaining about it go back to dialup you can get faster if you hookup 2 modems using cat5 cabling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 and try $70 • Up to 8 Mbps down :love2: • Up to 768 Kbps up :love2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R@ndomH3ro Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by Pfffffffffft@Mar 5 2006, 09:08 AM im really poor and thinking of getting rid of cable modem which is like $29.00 a month... i got a wireless card but no router.. as i sit and make this thread...im using wireless access and someone elses router (i guess) i dont know much about this shit so... who else does this? can anyone find out? whats the risk? Quoted post Really not much of a risk, unless you neighbor is a computer nerd. But then all they can do is yell at you. Its there fault, but people do it all the time. Its called Wardriving and there are some cool things that can help you be more successful at it. Google it man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 no it is illegal to steal wireless they can and will take your ass to court and win also you do not have to have a computer nerd neighbor the routers already have the security set inside when you plug it in it gets locked down (the newer routers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Interesting... I have my own router, but sometimes my computer automatically logs on to one of three other networks that it picks up. The past week or so, when I try to switch it to my own network, it tells me that my password is invalid. So this probably means that someone else got into my network and changed it, right? How can I change it back without having the password myself? And does this mean that they can hack into my email/ other internet accounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 if i could i would, then i would use my leet haxxorz skills to find a way into their computer and insert insane amounts of bestiality porn into their shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crave Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by harvey wallbanger@Mar 5 2006, 01:52 PM Interesting... I have my own router, but sometimes my computer automatically logs on to one of three other networks that it picks up. The past week or so, when I try to switch it to my own network, it tells me that my password is invalid. So this probably means that someone else got into my network and changed it, right? How can I change it back without having the password myself? And does this mean that they can hack into my email/ other internet accounts? Quoted post Question 1 - Possibly, but probably not. Question 2 - Reset your router. Question 3 - No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Cool, thanks. But if someone else didn't do it, why doesn't my password work all of the sudden? I just noticed what a wierd expression "all of the sudden" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftover crack Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 does anyone know how to do this shit on a psp. ive seen people do it and i may look into stealing one for that sole purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Blaze Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 damn, i love wireless networking. when i go to chicago and stay with my aunt in her little subdivision her neighbors have a few networks. its nice to choose your free network. i dont kno what i will do this year when i go to visit her, because i spilled beer on my laptop and fried it. fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIZZLE315 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I live in a house that has like 8 different units in it and a few of the people just pitch in together to get wireless service...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Brock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by NewNameSamePerson@Mar 5 2006, 11:32 AM if the owner is dumb enough to leave their wifi connection unsecured then they deserve to have their bandwidth stolen. http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/index.php...ic=69679&st=160 Quoted post flawless logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Brock Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 /sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozaki Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by Raw fish@Mar 5 2006, 11:56 AM ive gone out driving around with my laptop just to find open connections, its good times Quoted post :idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toggle Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 now your talking... :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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