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a friend of mine was in the same situation.. drink a lot of cranberry juice, a lot of water, take a lot of vitamin c, don't let that be the first time you piss on the day of the test.. lots of water, cranberry juice, vitamin c... and take some aspirin a few hours before the test. another friend of mine worked in a lab and was telling me how you can just take creatine and you'll fool the testers...don't remember the details though..

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drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick

STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE

xxx303

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Originally posted by serpent of the light

drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick

STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE

xxx303

 

Thanks....you boner. Does anyone else have any real suggestions that haven't been posted? I'm in need of this information too.

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there are cleanser that will work for a while (around 3 hours) and are undectectable. the problem is finding one that works. drinking lots and lots of water and natural body cleanser like thistle (or milkthistle i can;'t remember which) tea will help. drink alot.

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Golden Seal. You can get it at health food stores.

As someone else said before MAKE SURE IT IS NOT THE 1ST PISS OF THE DAY. If you can afford the 25-30 bucks for the seal. A gallon or so of water a day will clean your system in a week or so. Those worked for me when I was 12-15. They should still hold true.

Oh and Drinking Gasoline works everytime.

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From what I've heard(not from High Times) but I would still be weary since it probably came from some stoner. For a couple of days before the test just drink mass amounts of water, some say cranberry juice because it will help naturally clean out your system of toxins. But the whole idea of drinking fluids is not that it will clean you out, but it will make your piss so watered down that there will be little to no trace amounts of illegal drugs in your system. The trick is to just keep your pee clear like a motha. Although it's much easier to give this type of advice than take it and be all chill about it. So you have been warned, don't blame me if shit happens. Good luck.

By the way I see you changed your signature Zack.:dazed:

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Originally posted by serpent of the light

drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick

STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE

xxx303

 

I'm so straight edge I shit X's.

 

listen kid I was sxe for 5 years and I out grew it and I learned alot about myself and about straight edge in that time frame. I also learned that straight edge kids like you will be the first to fall. You kinda remind me of a friend I used to have. Everything he owned had x's on it and everything had to be related to the hardcore scene in some way. He now has a straight edge tattoo that he fucking hates and drinks like a fish. Keep your edge to yourself and you will look less of a jackass.

 

pistol, my old signature was actually a poke at straight edge. Just a friendly little joke about "selling out". i.e. until I change my ming..STRAIGHT EDGE....I changed my mind, simple as that.

 

everyone else thanks for your help, I already drink massive amunts of water on a regular basis so hopefully I will be ok and get the job. god knows I need it.

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..good luck man

i recently lost a job to a drug test..the good news is, i ended up getting a much better job instead..(which doesn't require a test)

 

i did the water and cranberry juice thing like a nutcase..it didn't work..i do, however, smoke a ridiculous amount..

my only advice would be to spend the money and get the total cleanse stuff or whatever the product is..

i've heard that "detoxify" works

 

do whatever you think is neccesary

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You guys overreact so much. If you haven't smoke in several years and you only smoked once (even if you smoked all day) and haven't smoked since you should be fine. Drink a lot of water if it makes you feel better, but don't stress.

 

Because THC is not water soluble it attaches to the fat deposits. This is why it stays around longer and why sometimes excercising will make your levels peak even if you are no longer using. But on average here is the formula.

 

Heavy Smoker (daily, mult. times) 30 plus days

Moderate (1 or 2 times a week) About two weeks

Casual (every once in a while) About 3 days

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I actually know a lot about this subject, having worked at a drug testing lab over the summer.

 

First, it depends on what kind of test you are taking and at what place. I'll just assume that you're taking an EMIT test (most common) and that they're running the industry standards.

 

just to clear up some stuff that was said before:

 

golden seal is now tested for, and it never did anything in the 1st place.

 

cranberry juice is a diareutic(sp?) and it makes you pee..thats why its good. coffee, soda pop, etc will also work

 

after you drink lots of water, you want to take vitamin B, because it makes your pee yellow. vitamin C does nothing extra special, but it is good to have a healthy amount of all vitamins in your pee.

 

I strong recommend reading "fooling the bladder cops" I forget the author. you can find it on the net with most any search engine. Its the most technically accurate and easy to follow guide out there. Read that and you'll be set.

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They test for golden seal now because it has gained a reputation as a cure-all for drug tests. So, if they find it in your urine they count it as a red flag that you are trying to cover something up.

 

As for all of those pills, drinks, powders, and what nots. Those things only work because of all of the water that you have to drink with it. The stuff it the pills is just about 1000% vitamin B and some diaeurtics (I cannot spell that word properly).

 

 

http://www.marijuana-hemp.com/cin/drugtest.../contents.shtml

 

Go read that, it will dispell a lot of the myths that you guys might be circulating

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LONG ASS POST BUT READ IT !!!

 

7.

Some chemicals taken orally supposedly will mask traces of drugs in urine.

Advertisers like to present their diuretic as a masking agent to make the

sale. Consequently, diuretics are often mistaken for drug screens. Most

herbal products claim to do a lot more than they actually do. Don't be

fooled by herbal potions that claim to flush or absorb toxins.

 

7.1 Drug screens that work:

 

7.1.1 Aspirin: According to Jeff Nightbyrd, there is testing industry

data that taking 4 aspirins a few hours prior to the test might help you.

". . . aspirin interferes with the Syvia [sic] EMIT assay. It seems that

aspirin absorbs at the same wavelength that NAD does which is how it

interferes with the assay" (Clin Chem 34 (90) 602-606). Two reliable

sources have tested aspirin and found it to interfere with the EMIT. In

the future they will try to find a way to circumvent this test flaw. Until

then, I certainly recommend taking advantage of the situation and using

aspirin.

 

7.2 Drug screens that do not work:

 

7.2.1 Goldenseal: Goldenseal has shown to work on occasion. However, some

labs are reportedly testing for Goldenseal. Goldenseal is very unreliable,

and California NORML advises against using it. Goldenseal (as a screen)

only works on the TLC test, which is not used anymore.

 

7.2.2 Niacin: Niacin has been shown to work on occasion. Byrd Labs tests

conclude that niacin doesn't work at all. In other words, something else

probably caused a negative, not the niacin.

 

7.2.3 Zinc sulfate: Zinc sulfate is claimed to bond with THC metabolites,

and because it's a solid, it gets passed as stool rather than urine. Jeff

Nightbyrd says it does nothing. Anne Watters Pearson said "zinc sulfate is

no miracle drug for pissing. Forget it."

 

7.3 Untested drug screens:

 

7.3.1 Puri-Blend ©: Puri-Blend is claimed to "block" metabolites from

entering the bloodstream and to "neutralize" all drugs in the urine. I

don't believe it myself. Sold in GNC stores.

 

7.3.2 The Stuff ©: The Stuff is claimed to absorb toxins in the body

and block detection of true and false positives. Sold by J&J Enterprises.

 

8.

"Doping" samples consists of spiking the sample with different chemicals.

Chemicals that defeat immunoglobulin/antigen binding will cause a false

negative on the EMIT. Most of these additives only work on the standard

EMIT screening, not on RIA or GC/MS tests. In many cases, passing the EMIT

is good enough, because they will never do a RIA or GC/MS confirmation on a

sample that showed negative. I should also add that you may be watched, so

don't rely on this method. You should be able to find out ahead of time if

you will be supervised. Some of the following additives alter the urine's

pH, and most labs now test the pH to see if the sample has been

adulterated. If you are subject to random tests, you may want to carry an

additive in your wallet. Additives are illegal in the state of Texas, and

commercial vendors will not ship their product to Texas addresses.

 

8.1 Effective additives: These additives are recommended.

 

8.1.1 Bleach (powdered): Chlorinated bleach will test negative, and it's

the best household additive. In an emergency, Jeff Nightbyrd recommends

adding unscented bleach crystals to a diluted sample. It's recommended to

grind the powdered bleach to a finer grain. 1/4 teaspoon is recommended

for a 60cc sample. For liquid bleach, add six to ten drops. Bleach will

throw the pH outside the normal body range; so it may be apparent that the

sample was tampered with. Some bleaches foam or leave residue, so

experiment with different brands before selecting which to use.

 

8.1.2 Klear ©: Klear is a powdered additive. Jeff Nightbyrd, Ann

Waters Pearson, and Party Hut Enterprises currently endorses Klear. It was,

until recently, the most advanced and least detectable. However,

some labs can now detect Klear. Due to the popularity of Klear and many

cases where people were caught using it, Jeff Nightbyrd recommends reverting

back to UrinAid. Klear will clear up THC

metabolites, as well as nicotine byproducts on the EMIT. If

methamphetamines are present, Klear won't help. Klear is only designed to

work on the EMIT. It will also work on the RIA when there is a good time

span between the urine getting spiked, and getting tested. If the RIA test

is not performed on-site, there is a good chance Klear will cause a false

negative. Klear can be purchased from Martha Butterfield-Jay Foundation

and Party Hut Enterprizes now carries. You can also get Klear direct from

Klear (the organization).

 

8.1.3 Water: You can dilute your sample heavily with water. Don't

confuse this with drinking water; you can also add water directly to the

sample. Be sure to use hot water (between 91 and 97 degrees), they will

likely take the temperature of the sample. This method isn't dependable

because some facilities have the sink water shut off so people can't do

this. If there is running water, they may listen to you. If you turn on

the water, make it sound like you're washing your hands or something.

 

8.2 Ineffective additives: These additives are not recommended. Many of

these may give negative test results, but are not recommended for other

reasons.

 

8.2.1 Ammonia: 2 ounces will render the sample negative. The pH is

altered, and the ammonia odor is strong enough to be recognized.

 

8.2.2 Blood: It's been said that a few drops of blood will fix your

sample; it doesn't.

 

8.2.3 Draino: Draino will test negative. However, Draino is NOT

recommended because it doesn't work well even when half a teaspoon is

added. It colors the sample blue, and will put the pH outside the normal

body range. Draino foams, and leaves metal specs that must be removed.

 

8.2.4 Goldenseal: A myth. Goldenseal put directly in the sample doesn't

alter test results. It only turns the specimen brown. Do not dope your

urine with Goldenseal. Goldenseal is more commonly used as a screen, to be

consumed. See Goldenseal under section 7.2.1.

 

8.2.5 Hydrogen peroxide: Industrial grade will destroy half the THC

metabolites. Household strength hydrogen peroxide does nothing. 30% H2O2

may "oxidize the THC metabolite into something that would not react in the

screening test and would show up as something different by GC/MS" (anon1).

 

8.2.6 Lemon juice: Lemon juice is a myth; it will not change the test

results.

 

8.2.7 Liquid soap: Will test negative, but makes the specimen cloudy,

which certainly draws suspicion.

 

8.2.8 Mary Jane's SuperClean 13 ©: This additive was effective for a

very short period. SuperClean had to be strong enough to beat the tests,

but weak enough to be undetectable. It failed to cause a false-negative in

3% of the tests. In fact, it also causes a false-positive on the EMIT for

alcohol! Don't use it.

 

8.2.9 Purifyit ©: Imported from Europe, Party Hut Enterprises sells

Purifyit with a money-back guarantee. PHE claims there have been no

returns. Oklahoma NORML refuses to endorse this product because it has

flunked too many truck drivers.

 

8.2.10 Sodium nitrate: This is more effective than table salt (below), but

dissolves poorly.

 

8.2.11 Table salt: Two tablespoons of salt will test negative, but puts

the density out of normal range. Residue can also be seen at the bottom of

the cup.

 

8.2.12 UrinAid ©: UrinAid, produced by Byrd Labs, is very potent and

works every time for masking pot and nicotine, but not cocaine or heroin.

They have recently developed a test solely to detect UrinAid. UrinAid is

tested for in 5% of the labs. Oklahoma NORML has stopped selling this

product because it's "too detectable."

 

8.2.13 Vinegar: Adding vinegar to your sample will test negative, but

also drops the pH. In fact, lowering the pH is what causes the sample to

test negative. "If the urine is extremely acidic or alkaline the

antigen-antibody reaction will proceed at a slower rate which COULD produce

a false negative" (anon1). This method is not recommended because if you

are lucky and lower the pH enough to produce a negative, there's a chance

that the pH itself will also be tested.

 

8.2.14 Visine: This is debatable. Byrd Labs concluded that Visine does

not work. Clinton said that the lab he worked in tested Visine, and

concluded that Visine works every time as a false negative for the EMIT.

It can be detected due to inability of the sample to foam.

 

8.2.15 WD40: Another myth. WD40 can only do harm.

 

8.3 Untested additives

 

8.3.1 Papain: This is a papaya enzyme available over the counter. It

isn't known whether this does anything. Dr. Grow said that Papain is an

antibody to THC, and in theory may destroy THC when added to the urine

sample. However, positive urine doesn't actually contain THC; it contains

THC byproducts. Papain has not been tested, and may or may not work.

 

9.

This method works for every urine test, every time (provided that some

conditions are met). You simply give them

clean urine (not yours). This works very well if you're not supervised.

If you are going to be supervised, try to talk them out of it. Someone

told me they were going to be monitored, and they said "I don't want you to

fuckin' watch me piss!" So the supervisor waited outside; probably with

his/her ear to the door to listen for opening containers. Members in active

duty are often watched as the urine flows from source to destination (but

substitution will even work on this test, as you will find out). Abbie

Hoffman, author of "Stealing This Urine Test," suggested leaving a few drops

of urine on the seat or on your shoe for as "an added measure of authenticity."

 

9.1 Substitution methods: There are three methods, but two of them are

painful, and you have to be determined to use them. The most common way to

sneak in urine is in a concealed container.

 

9.1.1 Concealed container: Simply conceal the urine. The first time

you're alone with the container they give you, dump in your concealed

urine. Be sure you can quietly open the container; the lab personnel may

be just outside the door listening. You may be required to change into a

gown. If so, a condom or douche bag holding the sample and taped around

the thigh can be concealed under the gown. You can also run a plastic line

from a flexible container and tape it to your urination equipment (to be

gender neutral), and even piss under supervision. Females have been known

to keep a condom with the urine sample in the vagina, and prick it with a sharp

fingernail to piss under supervision. Be sure to keep the sample between 91

and 97 degrees.

 

9.1.2 Injection: There's a way to use substitution even when you're under

the strictest supervision. Athletes trying to pass tests for anabolic

steroids have been known to empty their bladders, and have the substituted

urine injected directly into their bladders via needle. It was shown in a

motion picture like "Wildcats" or something. While theoretically possible,

it's painful and subject to infection. It would certainly be the most

senseless way to get clean urine into the testees bladder. If this must be

done, catheterization should be used.

 

9.1.3 Catheterization: First void your bladder as you would with

injection. Run a thin plastic tube to the bladder. (Males must insert the

tube into the opening of the penis, go through the urethra and into the

bladder.) Catheterization done on females is not as unpleasant as it is

for males. Then inject the clean urine into the bladder via catheter.

Catheterization is less painful, safer, and more effective. Infection is

still possible.

 

9.2 Where to get clean urine.

 

9.2.1 Urine from a donor: You can substitute someone else's urine. Ask

your urine donor (hopefully a friend you can trust) what drugs they've

taken in the last month. They may have taken a false positive (or a true

positive for that matter). Before the test, the examiner will likely ask you

to list everything you've taken. If the urine ages beyond 18 hours,

deterioration becomes noticable and the lab may suspect something.

 

9.2.2 Powdered urine: If you don't trust your friend's sample, or don't

have any clean friends, you can get powdered urine from Martha

Butterfield-Jay Foundation. It's produced by Byrd Labs, and supposedly

works perfectly; however, I got MBJF's powdered urine, and it did not

specify the age or gender of the original sample. Powdered urine must be

prepared ahead of time. If there is a period of time that you are clean,

you can make powdered urine from your own supply.

 

9.2.2.1 Making your own powdered urine: Urinate in a glass container.

Let it evaporate. Then scrape the inside for the concentrate. Just mix it

with water before the test, and the sample will have the correct specific

gravity, pH, color, etc.

 

9.2.3 Dog urine: I heard from Dr. Grow that dog urine (of all things) can

be substituted, and will pass the test! However, I don't know how an age,

gender, pH, or creatinine test would result. Someone was able to use dog

urine for several months to pass the test. This subsection assumes you

have a clean dog. I know my dog's urine wouldn't pass; he eats more weed

than humans do. It would make more sense to use human urine, but dog urine

provides a workable substitution in an emergency.

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Originally posted by Zack Morris

 

I'm so straight edge I shit X's.

 

listen kid I was sxe for 5 years and I out grew it and I learned alot about myself and about straight edge in that time frame. I also learned that straight edge kids like you will be the first to fall. You kinda remind me of a friend I used to have. Everything he owned had x's on it and everything had to be related to the hardcore scene in some way. He now has a straight edge tattoo that he fucking hates and drinks like a fish. Keep your edge to yourself and you will look less of a jackass.

 

pistol, my old signature was actually a poke at straight edge. Just a friendly little joke about "selling out". i.e. until I change my ming..STRAIGHT EDGE....I changed my mind, simple as that.

 

everyone else thanks for your help, I already drink massive amunts of water on a regular basis so hopefully I will be ok and get the job. god knows I need it.

 

hey son, don't step to me just cuz i make one sarcastic hard post. my x's are extremely limited, and i'm far more into metal than hardcore. i am gonna get sXe on my back and wrist, as a non-edge band said best 'what i have in my heart, i'll take to my grave'

you changed your mind, in that you sold out. now i respect change, some people are simply destined not to make it. 'but when your turn your back and talk shit about everything you once based your whole life on, that's when you can count me out'. bane sung that, and now they arent edge, and i still respect them

don't talk shit just because you couldnt hang.

xxx303

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Originally posted by bobobi11

Because THC is not water soluble it attaches to the fat deposits. This is why it stays around longer and why sometimes excercising will make your levels peak even if you are no longer using.

thank god someone finally said this!!?

i was beginning to think everyone was an erb idiot..

how do you burn fat cells? you excersice. when you excersice your body sweats to cool itself off. you drink a lot of fluids to keep your body from dehidrating and to give itself something to use to cool itself off. toxins are released through your sweat.

the halflife of thc in a humans body, depending on their usage is 7 days.

BUT, if they take a hair sample you're still fucked. another way thc gets released from your body is through your hair. if you haven't smoked or cut your hair in 6 months, it'll still show up. in your hair. i don't know about the states, but in canada, that's one of the tests administered to new recruits to the police force.

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Originally posted by serpent of the light

 

hey son, don't step to me just cuz i make one sarcastic hard post. my x's are extremely limited, and i'm far more into metal than hardcore. i am gonna get sXe on my back and wrist, as a non-edge band said best 'what i have in my heart, i'll take to my grave'

you changed your mind, in that you sold out. now i respect change, some people are simply destined not to make it. 'but when your turn your back and talk shit about everything you once based your whole life on, that's when you can count me out'. bane sung that, and now they arent edge, and i still respect them

don't talk shit just because you couldnt hang.

xxx303

 

I'm not trying to dis anyone and I do not talk shit on something that I once beleived in. The essential ethics of straight edge are great but you have remember people view it as a way to make themselves supirior to toehrs and the way i viewed your post was you trying to be that way to me. If not thats cool, if so thats fine too I really don't give a fuck. The only thing I really care about is when someone can't respect a choice I made about MY body and what will effect ME. Half of my friends are edge and they are fine with the fact that I changed the way I feel. There are also the sxe kids in my city that were cool with me one day until the second that the rumor started that zack morris sold out and then they wouldn't even look in my general direction. That my friend is what I dislike about straight edge. Elitists bullshit. I will admit that it is everywhere and that it is human nature to try and set yourself above others but I feel that the small trivial things that people use to do that are sickening weather it be sxe, skills as a painter, race, or how much fucking money you make. Its moronic and insufficient when you look at life from an angle which shows how fucking insignificant we are on this tiny little rock that is floating around a giant ball of fire....so basically that is how I feel, mis-spellings and all. if you would like to discuss(not argue and all that BS) this subject or anything else feel free to get at me on AIM EyeHeartElvis.

 

p.s. maybe smoking up was a mistake that I made, but I'm fucking human and I think that I am entitled to error.

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beat me to it bigpop. yeah just exercise a bit and burn some fat and sweat and youll be cool. yes you should drink a lote of water but dont over do it. and no do not let it be the first piss of the day, this is when thc is most detectable. viniger and cranberry juice work cuz they make you piss but water does the same in the long run.

 

and if you get a hair test your pretty much fucked unless you shave every hair in your body, yes they are allowed to use your a-hole hairs if you have any. but that test cost about $300 and i doubt your employer is gonna do that before youre even make any money for them.

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