Zack Morris Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 ok...about a week ago I smoked some weed for the first tiem in years...within the next few weeks I plan to apply for a job where I will have to take a drug test and I NEED to beat this drug test. Any suggestions would be helpful....damn you mary jane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Beans Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 drink about 8 classes of water a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hipnos Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 a friend of mine was in the same situation.. drink a lot of cranberry juice, a lot of water, take a lot of vitamin c, don't let that be the first time you piss on the day of the test.. lots of water, cranberry juice, vitamin c... and take some aspirin a few hours before the test. another friend of mine worked in a lab and was telling me how you can just take creatine and you'll fool the testers...don't remember the details though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 just have Screech whiz in a cup for you...you know that guys as clean as a chrome whistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serpent of the light Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE xxx303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaotic970 Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 beating a drug test heres the deal the stuff you need that only cleans weeed is total cleanse you get it at a vitimen store my parents use that so its 100 percent for sure you will need to ask casue its behind the counter not on the shelf good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Originally posted by serpent of the light drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE xxx303 Thanks....you boner. Does anyone else have any real suggestions that haven't been posted? I'm in need of this information too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 there are cleanser that will work for a while (around 3 hours) and are undectectable. the problem is finding one that works. drinking lots and lots of water and natural body cleanser like thistle (or milkthistle i can;'t remember which) tea will help. drink alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deznatori Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Golden Seal. You can get it at health food stores. As someone else said before MAKE SURE IT IS NOT THE 1ST PISS OF THE DAY. If you can afford the 25-30 bucks for the seal. A gallon or so of water a day will clean your system in a week or so. Those worked for me when I was 12-15. They should still hold true. Oh and Drinking Gasoline works everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 From what I've heard(not from High Times) but I would still be weary since it probably came from some stoner. For a couple of days before the test just drink mass amounts of water, some say cranberry juice because it will help naturally clean out your system of toxins. But the whole idea of drinking fluids is not that it will clean you out, but it will make your piss so watered down that there will be little to no trace amounts of illegal drugs in your system. The trick is to just keep your pee clear like a motha. Although it's much easier to give this type of advice than take it and be all chill about it. So you have been warned, don't blame me if shit happens. Good luck. By the way I see you changed your signature Zack.:dazed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosoner Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 the only way to beat a drug test, is to not partake in drug use, but its a bit late for that now, so the only advise i have to offer you, is your screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted November 6, 2001 Author Share Posted November 6, 2001 Originally posted by serpent of the light drink gasoline, followed by an attempt at breathing fire, should do the trick STRAIGHT EDGE IN YOUR FACE xxx303 I'm so straight edge I shit X's. listen kid I was sxe for 5 years and I out grew it and I learned alot about myself and about straight edge in that time frame. I also learned that straight edge kids like you will be the first to fall. You kinda remind me of a friend I used to have. Everything he owned had x's on it and everything had to be related to the hardcore scene in some way. He now has a straight edge tattoo that he fucking hates and drinks like a fish. Keep your edge to yourself and you will look less of a jackass. pistol, my old signature was actually a poke at straight edge. Just a friendly little joke about "selling out". i.e. until I change my ming..STRAIGHT EDGE....I changed my mind, simple as that. everyone else thanks for your help, I already drink massive amunts of water on a regular basis so hopefully I will be ok and get the job. god knows I need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Are2 Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 ..good luck man i recently lost a job to a drug test..the good news is, i ended up getting a much better job instead..(which doesn't require a test) i did the water and cranberry juice thing like a nutcase..it didn't work..i do, however, smoke a ridiculous amount.. my only advice would be to spend the money and get the total cleanse stuff or whatever the product is.. i've heard that "detoxify" works do whatever you think is neccesary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 ...golden seal....cranberry juice...niacin(sp)....water....smoke shop(ask)....herbal store(ask).... all of these will help your cause, i know cause they worked for me...and if you have more then a week your straight....dont fret....r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bumdigger Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 niacin works good just o.d. on it before you take your test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobi11 Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 You guys overreact so much. If you haven't smoke in several years and you only smoked once (even if you smoked all day) and haven't smoked since you should be fine. Drink a lot of water if it makes you feel better, but don't stress. Because THC is not water soluble it attaches to the fat deposits. This is why it stays around longer and why sometimes excercising will make your levels peak even if you are no longer using. But on average here is the formula. Heavy Smoker (daily, mult. times) 30 plus days Moderate (1 or 2 times a week) About two weeks Casual (every once in a while) About 3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISE Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 I actually know a lot about this subject, having worked at a drug testing lab over the summer. First, it depends on what kind of test you are taking and at what place. I'll just assume that you're taking an EMIT test (most common) and that they're running the industry standards. just to clear up some stuff that was said before: golden seal is now tested for, and it never did anything in the 1st place. cranberry juice is a diareutic(sp?) and it makes you pee..thats why its good. coffee, soda pop, etc will also work after you drink lots of water, you want to take vitamin B, because it makes your pee yellow. vitamin C does nothing extra special, but it is good to have a healthy amount of all vitamins in your pee. I strong recommend reading "fooling the bladder cops" I forget the author. you can find it on the net with most any search engine. Its the most technically accurate and easy to follow guide out there. Read that and you'll be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 golden seal is now tested for, and it never did anything in the 1st place. OH THOSE BASTARDS AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE ARE GONNA GET IT! wait if it doesnt do anything then why bother to test for it? i thought golden seal helped clean the body out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATS Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Here is the solution.... literally http://live-long.itgo.com/Vales.formula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISE Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 They test for golden seal now because it has gained a reputation as a cure-all for drug tests. So, if they find it in your urine they count it as a red flag that you are trying to cover something up. As for all of those pills, drinks, powders, and what nots. Those things only work because of all of the water that you have to drink with it. The stuff it the pills is just about 1000% vitamin B and some diaeurtics (I cannot spell that word properly). http://www.marijuana-hemp.com/cin/drugtest.../contents.shtml Go read that, it will dispell a lot of the myths that you guys might be circulating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SayOne Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 LONG ASS POST BUT READ IT !!! 7. Some chemicals taken orally supposedly will mask traces of drugs in urine. Advertisers like to present their diuretic as a masking agent to make the sale. Consequently, diuretics are often mistaken for drug screens. Most herbal products claim to do a lot more than they actually do. Don't be fooled by herbal potions that claim to flush or absorb toxins. 7.1 Drug screens that work: 7.1.1 Aspirin: According to Jeff Nightbyrd, there is testing industry data that taking 4 aspirins a few hours prior to the test might help you. ". . . aspirin interferes with the Syvia [sic] EMIT assay. It seems that aspirin absorbs at the same wavelength that NAD does which is how it interferes with the assay" (Clin Chem 34 (90) 602-606). Two reliable sources have tested aspirin and found it to interfere with the EMIT. In the future they will try to find a way to circumvent this test flaw. Until then, I certainly recommend taking advantage of the situation and using aspirin. 7.2 Drug screens that do not work: 7.2.1 Goldenseal: Goldenseal has shown to work on occasion. However, some labs are reportedly testing for Goldenseal. Goldenseal is very unreliable, and California NORML advises against using it. Goldenseal (as a screen) only works on the TLC test, which is not used anymore. 7.2.2 Niacin: Niacin has been shown to work on occasion. Byrd Labs tests conclude that niacin doesn't work at all. In other words, something else probably caused a negative, not the niacin. 7.2.3 Zinc sulfate: Zinc sulfate is claimed to bond with THC metabolites, and because it's a solid, it gets passed as stool rather than urine. Jeff Nightbyrd says it does nothing. Anne Watters Pearson said "zinc sulfate is no miracle drug for pissing. Forget it." 7.3 Untested drug screens: 7.3.1 Puri-Blend ©: Puri-Blend is claimed to "block" metabolites from entering the bloodstream and to "neutralize" all drugs in the urine. I don't believe it myself. Sold in GNC stores. 7.3.2 The Stuff ©: The Stuff is claimed to absorb toxins in the body and block detection of true and false positives. Sold by J&J Enterprises. 8. "Doping" samples consists of spiking the sample with different chemicals. Chemicals that defeat immunoglobulin/antigen binding will cause a false negative on the EMIT. Most of these additives only work on the standard EMIT screening, not on RIA or GC/MS tests. In many cases, passing the EMIT is good enough, because they will never do a RIA or GC/MS confirmation on a sample that showed negative. I should also add that you may be watched, so don't rely on this method. You should be able to find out ahead of time if you will be supervised. Some of the following additives alter the urine's pH, and most labs now test the pH to see if the sample has been adulterated. If you are subject to random tests, you may want to carry an additive in your wallet. Additives are illegal in the state of Texas, and commercial vendors will not ship their product to Texas addresses. 8.1 Effective additives: These additives are recommended. 8.1.1 Bleach (powdered): Chlorinated bleach will test negative, and it's the best household additive. In an emergency, Jeff Nightbyrd recommends adding unscented bleach crystals to a diluted sample. It's recommended to grind the powdered bleach to a finer grain. 1/4 teaspoon is recommended for a 60cc sample. For liquid bleach, add six to ten drops. Bleach will throw the pH outside the normal body range; so it may be apparent that the sample was tampered with. Some bleaches foam or leave residue, so experiment with different brands before selecting which to use. 8.1.2 Klear ©: Klear is a powdered additive. Jeff Nightbyrd, Ann Waters Pearson, and Party Hut Enterprises currently endorses Klear. It was, until recently, the most advanced and least detectable. However, some labs can now detect Klear. Due to the popularity of Klear and many cases where people were caught using it, Jeff Nightbyrd recommends reverting back to UrinAid. Klear will clear up THC metabolites, as well as nicotine byproducts on the EMIT. If methamphetamines are present, Klear won't help. Klear is only designed to work on the EMIT. It will also work on the RIA when there is a good time span between the urine getting spiked, and getting tested. If the RIA test is not performed on-site, there is a good chance Klear will cause a false negative. Klear can be purchased from Martha Butterfield-Jay Foundation and Party Hut Enterprizes now carries. You can also get Klear direct from Klear (the organization). 8.1.3 Water: You can dilute your sample heavily with water. Don't confuse this with drinking water; you can also add water directly to the sample. Be sure to use hot water (between 91 and 97 degrees), they will likely take the temperature of the sample. This method isn't dependable because some facilities have the sink water shut off so people can't do this. If there is running water, they may listen to you. If you turn on the water, make it sound like you're washing your hands or something. 8.2 Ineffective additives: These additives are not recommended. Many of these may give negative test results, but are not recommended for other reasons. 8.2.1 Ammonia: 2 ounces will render the sample negative. The pH is altered, and the ammonia odor is strong enough to be recognized. 8.2.2 Blood: It's been said that a few drops of blood will fix your sample; it doesn't. 8.2.3 Draino: Draino will test negative. However, Draino is NOT recommended because it doesn't work well even when half a teaspoon is added. It colors the sample blue, and will put the pH outside the normal body range. Draino foams, and leaves metal specs that must be removed. 8.2.4 Goldenseal: A myth. Goldenseal put directly in the sample doesn't alter test results. It only turns the specimen brown. Do not dope your urine with Goldenseal. Goldenseal is more commonly used as a screen, to be consumed. See Goldenseal under section 7.2.1. 8.2.5 Hydrogen peroxide: Industrial grade will destroy half the THC metabolites. Household strength hydrogen peroxide does nothing. 30% H2O2 may "oxidize the THC metabolite into something that would not react in the screening test and would show up as something different by GC/MS" (anon1). 8.2.6 Lemon juice: Lemon juice is a myth; it will not change the test results. 8.2.7 Liquid soap: Will test negative, but makes the specimen cloudy, which certainly draws suspicion. 8.2.8 Mary Jane's SuperClean 13 ©: This additive was effective for a very short period. SuperClean had to be strong enough to beat the tests, but weak enough to be undetectable. It failed to cause a false-negative in 3% of the tests. In fact, it also causes a false-positive on the EMIT for alcohol! Don't use it. 8.2.9 Purifyit ©: Imported from Europe, Party Hut Enterprises sells Purifyit with a money-back guarantee. PHE claims there have been no returns. Oklahoma NORML refuses to endorse this product because it has flunked too many truck drivers. 8.2.10 Sodium nitrate: This is more effective than table salt (below), but dissolves poorly. 8.2.11 Table salt: Two tablespoons of salt will test negative, but puts the density out of normal range. Residue can also be seen at the bottom of the cup. 8.2.12 UrinAid ©: UrinAid, produced by Byrd Labs, is very potent and works every time for masking pot and nicotine, but not cocaine or heroin. They have recently developed a test solely to detect UrinAid. UrinAid is tested for in 5% of the labs. Oklahoma NORML has stopped selling this product because it's "too detectable." 8.2.13 Vinegar: Adding vinegar to your sample will test negative, but also drops the pH. In fact, lowering the pH is what causes the sample to test negative. "If the urine is extremely acidic or alkaline the antigen-antibody reaction will proceed at a slower rate which COULD produce a false negative" (anon1). This method is not recommended because if you are lucky and lower the pH enough to produce a negative, there's a chance that the pH itself will also be tested. 8.2.14 Visine: This is debatable. Byrd Labs concluded that Visine does not work. Clinton said that the lab he worked in tested Visine, and concluded that Visine works every time as a false negative for the EMIT. It can be detected due to inability of the sample to foam. 8.2.15 WD40: Another myth. WD40 can only do harm. 8.3 Untested additives 8.3.1 Papain: This is a papaya enzyme available over the counter. It isn't known whether this does anything. Dr. Grow said that Papain is an antibody to THC, and in theory may destroy THC when added to the urine sample. However, positive urine doesn't actually contain THC; it contains THC byproducts. Papain has not been tested, and may or may not work. 9. This method works for every urine test, every time (provided that some conditions are met). You simply give them clean urine (not yours). This works very well if you're not supervised. If you are going to be supervised, try to talk them out of it. Someone told me they were going to be monitored, and they said "I don't want you to fuckin' watch me piss!" So the supervisor waited outside; probably with his/her ear to the door to listen for opening containers. Members in active duty are often watched as the urine flows from source to destination (but substitution will even work on this test, as you will find out). Abbie Hoffman, author of "Stealing This Urine Test," suggested leaving a few drops of urine on the seat or on your shoe for as "an added measure of authenticity." 9.1 Substitution methods: There are three methods, but two of them are painful, and you have to be determined to use them. The most common way to sneak in urine is in a concealed container. 9.1.1 Concealed container: Simply conceal the urine. The first time you're alone with the container they give you, dump in your concealed urine. Be sure you can quietly open the container; the lab personnel may be just outside the door listening. You may be required to change into a gown. If so, a condom or douche bag holding the sample and taped around the thigh can be concealed under the gown. You can also run a plastic line from a flexible container and tape it to your urination equipment (to be gender neutral), and even piss under supervision. Females have been known to keep a condom with the urine sample in the vagina, and prick it with a sharp fingernail to piss under supervision. Be sure to keep the sample between 91 and 97 degrees. 9.1.2 Injection: There's a way to use substitution even when you're under the strictest supervision. Athletes trying to pass tests for anabolic steroids have been known to empty their bladders, and have the substituted urine injected directly into their bladders via needle. It was shown in a motion picture like "Wildcats" or something. While theoretically possible, it's painful and subject to infection. It would certainly be the most senseless way to get clean urine into the testees bladder. If this must be done, catheterization should be used. 9.1.3 Catheterization: First void your bladder as you would with injection. Run a thin plastic tube to the bladder. (Males must insert the tube into the opening of the penis, go through the urethra and into the bladder.) Catheterization done on females is not as unpleasant as it is for males. Then inject the clean urine into the bladder via catheter. Catheterization is less painful, safer, and more effective. Infection is still possible. 9.2 Where to get clean urine. 9.2.1 Urine from a donor: You can substitute someone else's urine. Ask your urine donor (hopefully a friend you can trust) what drugs they've taken in the last month. They may have taken a false positive (or a true positive for that matter). Before the test, the examiner will likely ask you to list everything you've taken. If the urine ages beyond 18 hours, deterioration becomes noticable and the lab may suspect something. 9.2.2 Powdered urine: If you don't trust your friend's sample, or don't have any clean friends, you can get powdered urine from Martha Butterfield-Jay Foundation. It's produced by Byrd Labs, and supposedly works perfectly; however, I got MBJF's powdered urine, and it did not specify the age or gender of the original sample. Powdered urine must be prepared ahead of time. If there is a period of time that you are clean, you can make powdered urine from your own supply. 9.2.2.1 Making your own powdered urine: Urinate in a glass container. Let it evaporate. Then scrape the inside for the concentrate. Just mix it with water before the test, and the sample will have the correct specific gravity, pH, color, etc. 9.2.3 Dog urine: I heard from Dr. Grow that dog urine (of all things) can be substituted, and will pass the test! However, I don't know how an age, gender, pH, or creatinine test would result. Someone was able to use dog urine for several months to pass the test. This subsection assumes you have a clean dog. I know my dog's urine wouldn't pass; he eats more weed than humans do. It would make more sense to use human urine, but dog urine provides a workable substitution in an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serpent of the light Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by Zack Morris I'm so straight edge I shit X's. listen kid I was sxe for 5 years and I out grew it and I learned alot about myself and about straight edge in that time frame. I also learned that straight edge kids like you will be the first to fall. You kinda remind me of a friend I used to have. Everything he owned had x's on it and everything had to be related to the hardcore scene in some way. He now has a straight edge tattoo that he fucking hates and drinks like a fish. Keep your edge to yourself and you will look less of a jackass. pistol, my old signature was actually a poke at straight edge. Just a friendly little joke about "selling out". i.e. until I change my ming..STRAIGHT EDGE....I changed my mind, simple as that. everyone else thanks for your help, I already drink massive amunts of water on a regular basis so hopefully I will be ok and get the job. god knows I need it. hey son, don't step to me just cuz i make one sarcastic hard post. my x's are extremely limited, and i'm far more into metal than hardcore. i am gonna get sXe on my back and wrist, as a non-edge band said best 'what i have in my heart, i'll take to my grave' you changed your mind, in that you sold out. now i respect change, some people are simply destined not to make it. 'but when your turn your back and talk shit about everything you once based your whole life on, that's when you can count me out'. bane sung that, and now they arent edge, and i still respect them don't talk shit just because you couldnt hang. xxx303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppa.k Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by bobobi11 Because THC is not water soluble it attaches to the fat deposits. This is why it stays around longer and why sometimes excercising will make your levels peak even if you are no longer using. thank god someone finally said this!!? i was beginning to think everyone was an erb idiot.. how do you burn fat cells? you excersice. when you excersice your body sweats to cool itself off. you drink a lot of fluids to keep your body from dehidrating and to give itself something to use to cool itself off. toxins are released through your sweat. the halflife of thc in a humans body, depending on their usage is 7 days. BUT, if they take a hair sample you're still fucked. another way thc gets released from your body is through your hair. if you haven't smoked or cut your hair in 6 months, it'll still show up. in your hair. i don't know about the states, but in canada, that's one of the tests administered to new recruits to the police force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted November 7, 2001 Author Share Posted November 7, 2001 Originally posted by serpent of the light hey son, don't step to me just cuz i make one sarcastic hard post. my x's are extremely limited, and i'm far more into metal than hardcore. i am gonna get sXe on my back and wrist, as a non-edge band said best 'what i have in my heart, i'll take to my grave' you changed your mind, in that you sold out. now i respect change, some people are simply destined not to make it. 'but when your turn your back and talk shit about everything you once based your whole life on, that's when you can count me out'. bane sung that, and now they arent edge, and i still respect them don't talk shit just because you couldnt hang. xxx303 I'm not trying to dis anyone and I do not talk shit on something that I once beleived in. The essential ethics of straight edge are great but you have remember people view it as a way to make themselves supirior to toehrs and the way i viewed your post was you trying to be that way to me. If not thats cool, if so thats fine too I really don't give a fuck. The only thing I really care about is when someone can't respect a choice I made about MY body and what will effect ME. Half of my friends are edge and they are fine with the fact that I changed the way I feel. There are also the sxe kids in my city that were cool with me one day until the second that the rumor started that zack morris sold out and then they wouldn't even look in my general direction. That my friend is what I dislike about straight edge. Elitists bullshit. I will admit that it is everywhere and that it is human nature to try and set yourself above others but I feel that the small trivial things that people use to do that are sickening weather it be sxe, skills as a painter, race, or how much fucking money you make. Its moronic and insufficient when you look at life from an angle which shows how fucking insignificant we are on this tiny little rock that is floating around a giant ball of fire....so basically that is how I feel, mis-spellings and all. if you would like to discuss(not argue and all that BS) this subject or anything else feel free to get at me on AIM EyeHeartElvis. p.s. maybe smoking up was a mistake that I made, but I'm fucking human and I think that I am entitled to error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_As_In_Bot Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 Im not sure if this was mentioned yet but my friend is going through the same thing because he crashed a forklift at work.. Anyways heres the solution part: He's gonna get his brother to give him a clean piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SPLINTER Posted November 7, 2001 Share Posted November 7, 2001 beat me to it bigpop. yeah just exercise a bit and burn some fat and sweat and youll be cool. yes you should drink a lote of water but dont over do it. and no do not let it be the first piss of the day, this is when thc is most detectable. viniger and cranberry juice work cuz they make you piss but water does the same in the long run. and if you get a hair test your pretty much fucked unless you shave every hair in your body, yes they are allowed to use your a-hole hairs if you have any. but that test cost about $300 and i doubt your employer is gonna do that before youre even make any money for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tue skinny Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 whats this job your going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted November 11, 2001 Author Share Posted November 11, 2001 its a costomer service job. the perks are that I will be making 12.75/hr and that since its 3rd shift I won't be very busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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