religion Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 So... I want to have a serious thread here. Let’s talk stains. With paint. The Ink recipe thread is all about permanent ink, but let’s hear about paint (spray and bucket) and buff methods specifically. I'd love to hear some buff experiences with any brands of paint. So to start it off, here’s my experiences. _______________________________________________________________________ 1st off >> Obviously painting over shit with roller paint always works, so lets talk sand/solution blast or solvent for buff. _____________________________________________________________________ - Krylon >> Any flat colours leave nice ghosts on plastic and raw metal. Nice ghosts on cement if pressure washed. Otherwise... shits water. - Painters touch (Rusto) >> Nice coverage on porous surfaces. Brick, wood, rusty metal, unprimed concrete. Good, but not hot, on plastic and really smooth cement. Flat colours obviously top of the game. - Montana (German) >> Ok. Not so hot for buff marks. Great with a fat cap, but buff is on and off. I think Montana is as good as the buff in your town. Here, it’s not so hot. Occasional stains on raw concrete. - Belton >> I'd love to hear some bombing feedback on this shit, as I've never used it. Let’s hear your metal and plastic results. - Generic >> This includes anything under $4. I've actually had some pretty awesome results with the shit brands. I'd probably use this shit all the time if it was more compatible with common caps, unfortunately... I love fat caps, and they are rarely compatible up here. - Canada Pride (American Accents) >> Cheap brands by rusto. I don’t really fuck with these too much, as I can afford better shit, so let us know. - Kilz >> I hear this shit is the bomb. But at $7 Canadian a can, I'm skeptical. Let’s hear your reports. P.S. I'd love too hear some of the 12 oz. crews comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 if they want to buff it theyre going to buff it it all depends on how good the company is thats doing the washing some half ass it, and others will do a very good job and get rid of it all. also depends on the colors involved. the surface( is the surface new? or has it been there for a while?) i mean you cant just say this will do this and this will do that *HOWEVER* kils is pretty good, its not only paint but its a sealant, meaning it will get in the pores and seal them. Whish is perfect for brick and other such surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardofzeus Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 krylon and rusto all sell for under 4 dollars. Supposedly there is a special black montana that was originally developed for sealing the bottoms of motor vehicles. Its supposed to be really hard to do a good buff job. But like CA said, its all relative. If you hit some small mom and pop store they are likely to do the cheapest buff possible. Places with more money may even go as far as repainting the entire wall. If they are determined to rid there walls of your shit, they will regardless of what kind of shit you used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Originally posted by beardofzeus@Jan 23 2006, 05:58 PM krylon and rusto all sell for under 4 dollars. Supposedly there is a special black montana that was originally developed for sealing the bottoms of motor vehicles. Its supposed to be really hard to do a good buff job. Quoted post that would be the bitumenous black, it contains tar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 marsh makes a spray ink. I know nothing about it or getting it. But i would assume that it is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 American Accents Canyon Black and Farmhouse Red are two of the most indelible american paint colors in my experience. both will leave a 'ghost' when buffed with a blaster (water blast or sandblast will leave an outline around the edges of your tag. looks real good if you use a fat cap) sometimes it'll also stain through a paint buff too. Killz is the thickest white i think. Montana Nitro is pretty ill for foreign paint with staying power against the buff, but i've heard it fades bad over time. shits like tar, it dries brown. (i think this is what everyone is referring to, it fucking only works with the fat cap that comes on the can and it's like 16oz or however many mLs that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeezerPHM Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Kilz is only white and its that hot shit, works very nice. also kilz makes and odorless version. also a can that is used for painting ceilings, which seemed pretty cool. i onlky fucked with original kilz, none of the other stuff i mentioned (or kilz bucket paint which i wouldnt mind trying). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 kilz bucket paint is excellent and it can be tinted light colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
186 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Molotow Coverall (The bitumin stuff) Usually leaves a "ghost" on most surfaces. Great paint for bombing as it does "Cover all." :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 its like...i want to tell you all the secrets, but at the same time, i want to close this. such a moral dilemna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
186 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Just another catch-22 eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 in chicago they just paint this shit brown all over your piece so you cant tell if it leaves a stain. some inks i've used leave a slight purple tint of my tag buy its barely recognizable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Paint is paint. There's nothing in it that will stain. It doesn't matter what you use, really. It'll all get buffed somehow. If you want to get something that will bleed through, find a way to get ink into a spray can, or just use markers. Personally, I don't care if they buff it. I'll just do another. The only experience I've ever had with a can of spray paint eating through buff is fresh undercoater on concrete. If they buff it right away, as the undercoater (bitumen, coversall, whatever you want to call it) dries and would otherwise fade out if left unbuffed, the buff paint over it starts to peel, and your outline comes through as the paint flakes off. Interesting, but again, I'd rather just do another toss instead of trying to beat the system with materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Wrong Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 EVERYTIME I PASS THIS THREAD I THINK IT SAYS SPRAY SPREM. WHOA, GOT THAT CAPS ON LOCK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"inkie" Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 for all those people who want to put ink in spraypaint just use one of those spray bottles for windex... just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.CommotioN. Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 kilz is super hard to buff, but it also sprays on somewhat dimensional and can get clumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.CommotioN. Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 ^^^ "inkie" as in the artist Inkie that did artwork for Jet Set Radio Future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Hahaha. Jet Set Radio. GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY. Now that shit is dance 'n' graff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -MOE LESTER- Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 the only time i ever see paint stain is on brick when the people do a shitty job buffing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattleytins Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 the difference between spray paints 'staining' is really gonna be minimal, theres shit you can do to bucket paint to make it stain better, but if u want a proper stain u need ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Originally posted by MAR@Jan 25 2006, 06:41 PM marsh makes a spray ink. I know nothing about it or getting it. But i would assume that it is good. Quoted post I dont have the money for this but....Heres the link anyway If you buy this i want a review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyer Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Kilz is the best white you can get. Its super thick, super flat and covers just as good as a can of silver Rusto. It is the only paint I know that is thick enough to clog a pink dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icetray Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Rustoleum Metallic Enamel Finish Spraypaint is pretty hard to buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE-LESTER Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 i was at walmart the other day and they have KILZ regular spray paint now. its 1.99 a can and has a shitload of colors, i picked up some but i havent used em yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattleytins Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 plastikote fades real quick, just thought i'd add a bit of my wisdom on the fact that shit paints are shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"inkie" Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 - Generic >> This includes anything under $4. I've actually had some pretty awesome results with the shit brands. I'd probably use this shit all the time if it was more compatible with common caps, unfortunately... I love fat caps, and they are rarely compatible up here. you pay too much for shit paint or else the exchange rate is fucked up and 4 cd is 1 usd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
religion Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Any word on Colourplace "special" walmart canada. I'm gonna be hittin it this Victoria Day long weekend for sure. Only flat white fills with VS. Painters Touch Flat black this time. If anyone has some news on the latest paint, let us know. I'll pass the results on here with the cheap paints in Canada this weekend. Anyone else got good buff stories this weekends let us know! This thread is all about us! Yall know the deal with the buff! I love a nice destructive buff mark as much as a hot tag these days. Thanks to every one for the input. This is a special category, so I'm proud to have it up. Its a flat black krylon weekend. I'm no freak... but seeing a box with a hatred filled buff mark scaring the surface makes me pretty pleased. Tell us your long weekend buff story, and I'll drop a nice one for yall. Cheers! p.s.- Check out the local buff at http://goodbyegraffiti.com/, "top technology"... LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADEL Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I've never used it but I think montana and belton each have a black with tar in it but I don't know how it works. I heard some dude used to bomb with kilz white and it was hella hard for them to buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Yeah, KILZ White is thick as shit. Had some the other day, and damn it does great coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKEENone Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Ironlaks go alright i guess, the old formula was pretty chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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