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Originally posted by sect ebc@Jan 26 2006, 12:38 PM

shit you got some soniferium seeds holla at a pimp

 

 

but ya aint buying them at the crafts store ..fo sho

 

 

just go to the ghetto and gets some caps. way cheaper and less time.

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damn my story was hard to read, but in it i said Salvia wasnt comparable to any other psychedelic. after having done DMT for the first time i must say the similarities are striking. Salvia has a 'pull' to it which i found most uncomfortable, but Ayahuasca has the exact same thing only more gentle. my friend described the feeling as having your soul sucked out of your body. im convinced both of this chemicals, Salvinorins and DMT, open higher realms of awareness through chemical action in the brain. this allows us a more clear connection with the spirit world.

i feel all trips are various levels of kundalini awakenings, which can be achieved by anyone (potentially) merely with meditation. there are a handful of buddhist monks who are essentially 'tripping' all the time.

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oh im fully butaned and read up. this is the culmination of about 2 to 3 years of hearing and reading peoples experiences with it, and kinda feeling like id already done it. but here came this thread topic again. and personally i felt it was the right time. but i am anxious. i feel like i should be calmer about it beforehand.

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I dont understand how this salvia stuff can be legal? If its as intense as some of you make it out to be im sure there would be some laws regarding its use and distrubiton.

 

I must admit tho Ive never had or heard of this stuff untill reading this thread.

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salvia is garbage you build up a tolerance so quickly.

why dont you go pick up a book on herbs and plants there are so many more things that are legal that get you alter your perceptions.

shit there are mushrooms that are still perfectly legal that dont contain psylocibe that will rock you.

though i reccomend against trying deytura unless you have someone you really trust to watch your back and stop you from doing really stupid shit.

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Originally posted by KYU@Feb 8 2006, 10:52 PM

i feel all trips are various levels of kundalini awakenings, which can be achieved by anyone (potentially) merely with meditation. there are a handful of buddhist monks who are essentially 'tripping' all the time.

 

"flashbacks", "panic attacks", "meditative hallucinations"....all the same shit in my opinion...it's all a sort of an awakening into the spirit world...or whatever you want to call it...life's funny.

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im no expert but i think salvia has a reverse tolerance from what ive heard. meaning the more you do the less you need to do. so ive read anyway.

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just like it sounds.type just say once into google, and homeboy will send you a free sample. if you donate 4 dollars or more to him, hell send you some 5X extract. i figured this way a pretty cheap way to see what the hypes about. dude is prompt too.

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I tripped on this shit last year, 10x extract, it's ridiculously powerful. My boy told me it was like shrooms so I said fuck it. It was nothing like shrooms. All I had was one hit out of a bong and it ended up being the most intense hallucinatory experience I ever had. I havent tried many drugs so I can't compare it to anything else. I took a hit and held it in for about 20 seconds then immediatley felt it kick in once I exhaled. I started to lose all my basic concepts. I remember looking at my speakers and bike helmet and not knowing what they were. Everything just turned into objects with no definition behind them. Reality started to drift away. I thought my brain was shutting down, It was terrifying. I thought splashing some water on my face would help me calm down a little but I couldnt get up. I wanted to move but I couldnt. My boy told me I kept mumbling something about the bathroom but I don't remember talking at all. Everything started to get all fuzzy and it felt like I was in my own world. Everything was just moving too fast but at the same time in slow motion. It's really hard to explain what you go through. It lasted 10 minutes tops but felt like an hour. If I knew what I was getting into I would have never smoked it. It hits you like a ton of bricks.

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no wonder why they come up with those weird fucking videos that spook the shit out of me..

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salvia and datura are no fucking joke. salvia is a lot easier expirimented with, though i stress its NO RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.

 

datura on the other hand is poison. nothing more, nothing less. in fact ive done a LOT of reading about it and some of its effects actually are permanent (AS ARE ANY HALLUCINOGENIC YOU MESS WITH LEGAL OR NOT) im not advocating or condemning any of these, just letting you all know, before you ever do ANY "drug" read read read read read, tehn read. then disucss. then double check, then read read read read. sounds redundant, but so isnt overdosing on datura or shrooms and never believing your mother loves you, or that people are actually there with you ever again. thats only simple examples to. imagine losing your sense of time and being. it happens. just read up on what you do before you try shit.

and one more thing, salvia actually is THE MOST POTENT HALLUCINOGENIC KNOWN TO MAN. blows acid and all that out of the water. youll likely need to find out all this shit for yourselves anyway, but just remember its always best to understand what your getting yourself into.

lastly, as strong as salvia is, its also one of the safest herbs known as well. so no matter what, even if you dont read up anymore than what you see here on 12oz, remember YOUR NOT GOING TO DIE, AND YOU WILL BE BACK FROM THE OLD SALVIA PLANE....

 

 

good luck on your journeys.

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i burned some of my regular salvia recently. it didnt really fuck me up. i was weird for sure, felt like i was being pulled towards something when i stood up but i didnt hallucinate at all. i have some 5X extract, im going to do that and then make a judgement.

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as long as were talking about drugs i sugest acid. its the best i want to make it but i find its one of the harder things to make its a big investment but if you have not done it check it out. for all those thizz heads its a lot better.

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Originally posted by you enjoy myself@Feb 23 2006, 07:56 PM

i got scared out of trying datura by this old hippie at a small rainbow gathering about 10 years back. he lived with his donkey in the new mexico state forest, where the gathering was held. he was telling me with the most dead serious look on his face how "it makes you see the devil." i used to be down for pretty much any psychedelic back then, but the vibe i got from this dude, the look in his eye, he scared me right out if it.

its also called devils weed. many people have told of seeing/experiencing the devil. whats scarier is with and a few other hallucinogenics, it can effect your sense of time and your sense of self presence and thats no joke. you may never recover from that.

 

as far as what this dude told you, that was no fuckin joke. datura is deadly poison, its not a happy trip, but an 8 hour to 3 day (lifelong?) delirious, confusing stupor. scary, and uncomfortable.

 

im sure you could find people who would reccomend the stuff, but id also reccomend you sit down 5 minutes with them (and their goats) see if your interested then.

 

 

anyway on another note, ive been interested in a few other herbs, plants, etc. of a less psychadelic nature (mostly).

im curious about experiences, good prices, and preperation reccomendations for the following...

blue lily or blue/white lotus

any ayahuasca products

kratom

 

 

 

ive also been getting into lucid dreaming. anyone w/ any experience in this area, herbal or not, id like to discuss methods/enhancers.

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Originally posted by Irobpeople@Feb 24 2006, 12:53 AM

as long as were talking about drugs i sugest acid. its the best i want to make it but i find its one of the harder things to make its a big investment but if you have not done it check it out. for all those thizz heads its a lot better.

 

 

were not talking about drugs

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Originally posted by Irobpeople@Feb 23 2006, 08:53 PM

as long as were talking about drugs i sugest acid. its the best i want to make it but i find its one of the harder things to make its a big investment but if you have not done it check it out. for all those thizz heads its a lot better.

i dont know about all that, a good friend of mines turned into a total wierdo after that, i cant talk to the dude anymore.

 

fuck that

 

 

 

thizzles for all my nizzles fa shizzle

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Originally posted by NeRVe54@Feb 24 2006, 12:04 AM

ive also been getting into lucid dreaming. anyone w/ any experience in this area, herbal or not, id like to discuss methods/enhancers.

 

 

I lucid dream all the time. You can definitely train yourself to realize when you are in a dream. It takes a bit of time and a little changing of your sleep patterns, but it can happen.

 

My overall sleeping habits have changed quite a bit in the last year or so. I will go a couple days to two weeks at a time of getting no more than 1 or 2 REM cycles per sleep session. I think this affected the frequency at which I lucid dream by not fully allowing my mind to put itself into a dream state.

 

Also, the point at which you wake up has a lot to do with your ability to lucid dream. Typically one must wake up within a REM cycle or right after it to "remember" a dream. If one is gettin only getting a few number of REM cycles per sleep, the likelyness of waking up during those periods increases by virtue of the few number of hours slept.

 

Power napping allows one to lucid dream pretty well too. Stay up for a day, then close your eyes for about twenty minutes. You'll be asleep for all intensive physical purposes, but by no means are you mentally asleep.

 

 

I think that if you also try to question things in general as they are happening, you may lead yourself into more lucid dreams. If you are dreaming and you see something completely rediculous, say... yourself being able to levitate, then acknowledge that it is rediculous and use that. Even if you don't realize your in a dream, you realize you are doing something you normally can't. Thus, you can use that to try other things, say... being able to actually fly vs levitate. I've found for me at least, that small things like that lead to being able to lucid dream quite often.

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Originally posted by 26SidedCube@Feb 24 2006, 08:39 AM

Drug magic fades fast. Good luck, suckers.

this is true....i have no idea why i was so into all taht psycadelic shit back in the day. nothing beats the beer and herb these days

 

some shit worth checking out if your still a newjack though

 

LSA, aka hawaiin rosewood seeds. if you prepare it right this shit will FUCK YOU UP. its not that visually trippy, but during the peak you definately feel like your on heroin, sitting on a beach in hawaii or in a sauna. you can buy the seeds at bouncingbearbotanical.com

 

 

if your ever in tokyo definately pick up some of thier legal psycadelic shit that they sell in roadside stands. they dont put the exact names of the drugs, but sell it under names like "pinky" "thunder", 3 hr trips, 6hrs, 12hrs...etc. im pretty sure it was 2ci, dmt, or amt....its pretty good, its like a combo of thizz and mild shrooms

 

 

 

but fuck drugs B

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