Asiquan Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Lep..........my man.........I wasn't talking about you big guy! For real..........you're doing your thing! I'm digging it...........I am talking about some of the older NW heads that you have seen over the years or haven't seen! Respect due fella..........All I'm saying is that you know who I'm talking about because you've been around so long and have watched the NW scene! It's all love bro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 maybe these guys did their thing in the 'NW' scene back before it was an extreme skater fag trendy thing to do by every yoyo with an internet connection. sure many of those older NW writers may have retired before you started, and dont currently do 1000000000000 pieces in a year, but that dosent negate their contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiquan Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Woah now MooseKnuckles...........I'm not negating anyone! I didn't start yesterday........and I'm aware of the contributions in the past.........BUT........these guys haven't done shit illegally in years. It's a well known NW fact! In my opinion..........you can't 99% fall off and get that same juice that cats in the now are getting! There's kids in that book across the country from me that I've seen more of than these guys that live 15 minutes from me! Sorry bro.......Not being a dick.........just stating facts. I'm done debating this........I'm not naming names. If you know you know. BTW from the looks of things I got a ton of respect for some of the same folks you seem to mention on here. They deserve it. Harsh and Network etc..........you feel me! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I think you are approaching FTG as if it was a thread in metal heads. A book, or this book in particular, is a historical document. It is the Subway Art of the freights, if you will. The intention is to explore the current, the recent and distant past of this culture. So the writers that are no longer active, very much have a place in it - they are irrefutably entitled to the 'juice'. They are entitled because of the context in which they are portrayed, the context of History. To take the position that “these guys haven't done shit illegally in years. It's a well known NW fact! In my opinion..........you can't 99% fall off and get that same juice that cats in the now are getting” is the equivalent of saying that because Haze AWR, or Porn or SuRoc don't do shit illegally any more, they too cant get the ‘juice’. Or they shouldn’t get the same juice as a Sigh, or a Regal or a Ges, or a Harsh…... do you feel me? In Subway art on page 15 there is a piece by King2, a 2nd generation writer who had “fallen off” long before Subway Art was published in 1983. Do you think, in Henry’s attempt to briefly tell the History of New York City Subway graffiti King2 does not deserve the juice? And let me tell you, there were many hundreds of deserving writers that didn’t get any juice in that book. We will all have an opinion about who should have been in this book – this thread is a testimony to that. But I have never met a book that was, in the true sense of the word, comprehensive, especially a book about graffiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I thought the book was well done since it covered so many areas of the freight scene. I think it is a good thing when shit is left out or people aren't featured because then it leaves room for others to step up and share their knowledge, fliks and different views on things. Hopefully this book will push people to get off their asses and make the same sort of thorough effort. This won't be the end all and be all of freight train graffiti books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiquan Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 MooseKnuckles..........I DO feel you. But.......the cats that I'm talking about never touched on that same level as Porn, Haze, etc...........I feel you though. Nice talking with ya..........pt taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 from what you guys are saying, it being biased and all, doesnt surprise me. From what I understand free agents wasnt exactly dead on either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecurd Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I can't wait till someone does this freight book thing right. close but no cigar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 heh - find me a publishing deal and Ill do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waseface Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 i enjoyed my 5 minute flip through in borders.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolation Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 stole the book. it's good, in my opinon it's very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phax Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 i read parts of this in borders today. some cool shit in there. if i had extra money i'd buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Woah now MooseKnuckles...........I'm not negating anyone! I didn't start yesterday........and I'm aware of the contributions in the past.........BUT........these guys haven't done shit illegally in years. It's a well known NW fact! In my opinion..........you can't 99% fall off and get that same juice that cats in the now are getting! There's kids in that book across the country from me that I've seen more of than these guys that live 15 minutes from me! Sorry bro.......Not being a dick.........just stating facts. I'm done debating this........I'm not naming names. If you know you know. BTW from the looks of things I got a ton of respect for some of the same folks you seem to mention on here. They deserve it. Harsh and Network etc..........you feel me! ;) i'm with you on this one. there were some cats that had more than a few quotes in there and i saw it and was just laughing my ass off. yeah, sure they can paint a freight. but i can easily count the number of freights they've done...ever..certainly not enough to warrant endless blabbering about a scene they were barely part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelrod Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Chrome' date='Dazer, Ren were some of the canadians I was expecting to see. I was let down a little bit but all in all pretty good.[/quote'] i agree, there were definatly not enough canucks in the book. it was a good attempt but not as good as it could have been. but i don't expect much more from roger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rail rider7 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 i think this thread should be retitled to SALTY DUDES DIDNT MAKE THE CUT THREAD because for every dude dissing it on here, i hear 5 people saying it was fresh elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontsleep34 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 yeah I don't no about many people but this book didnt have alot of great canadian artists like where is ensoe and demos good book tho but I didnt like how people got in quotes who barely painted then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freighthunter Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 disregard the above comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonga Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I thought it was very well done, and easily the best freight book out there right now. But there were a few cats in there that i dont think deserved to be put on that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 easily the best freight book out there right now.. isnt this the only freight book out there right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentizm Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 thought the book was pretty tight.. old sckool killa..awakened from the dead!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentizm Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 thought the book was pretty tight.. from an old school killa..awakend the dead!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VE.ONE Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 great book, especially if you have a love for trains without the graffiti aspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontsleep34 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I collect model trains.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Mantooth Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Great book. I caught the Crae-Worm?-Wyse (A2M) end to end that was in the book like two days after I purchased the book. Unfortunately, I was using a camera developed by world class speds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac3 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Not thrilled with the book, not happy with the dumbing down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 world class speds. thats funny. I never heard anyone but locals use the term 'speds'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Mantooth Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think it's a universal term. (special education = sped) I was wrong. It was a Crae-Wyse-Ghouls E2E. Not, Crae-worm-wyse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontsleep34 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 lol ive never heard of that but I could be in that program..^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARTOONKILLA Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 BUY THE BOOK DON'T START A THREAD BOUT IT AND BRING IT TO A DIFFERENT THREAD YOU DIPSHIT CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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